The Irish media hysteria

begbysback · 28-10-2020 01:31AM

smck321 wrote: »

Galway was full as of last week refusing any transfers, so where else are they meant to go?

Maybe send them to another hospital who have 25% of their beds free like you have now?

Take away the drama and use rational common sense.

acequion · 28-10-2020 01:32AM

smck321 wrote: »

I'm not your mother, nor does putting a few smilies in your post make it seem like you are the less angry one and therefore the winner, in your eyes at least.

You really are embarrassing yourself at this stage. Grasping at straws to win an Internet argument. I very much hope you're not a doctor with that attitude! Things really are bad enough.

smck321 · 28-10-2020 01:36AM

begbysback wrote: »

Maybe send them to another hospital who have 25% of their beds free like you have now?

Take away the drama and use rational common sense.

Those hospitals also have patients coming in who require those beds as well. Its not as if they serve 0 population so naturally theres a need to have an "emergency" bed free for when its acutely needed.

All it would require to fill the free bed is one ROSC in a cardiac arrest and now its gone. Then imagine someone comes into ED who needs an ICU bed and you see where the issue lies.

If that patient cannot go from ED to ICU immediately the ED resus becomes ICU and the already stretched ED staff need to monitor the patient in ED. If the patient in ED needs intubated the anaestetic reg needs to stay with them as ED staff aren't trained in intubation managment.

The anaesthetic reg then isn't free to see cases on the wards, anaestetic cases or any surgery cases and this is how things quickly snowball.

Ten of Swords · 28-10-2020 01:44AM

smck321 wrote: »

You sound like a middle aged woman trying to sell me crystals.

smck321 wrote: »

you sound like someone who had to stop himself using the work cuck in that sentance.

smck321 wrote: »

I'm not your mother

Stop now, this is your only warning

acequion · 28-10-2020 01:53AM

smck321 wrote: »

Those hospitals also have patients coming in who require those beds as well. Its not as if they serve 0 population so naturally theres a need to have an "emergency" bed free for when its acutely needed.

All it would require to fill the free bed is one ROSC in a cardiac arrest and now its gone. Then imagine someone comes into ED who needs an ICU bed and you see where the issue lies.

If that patient cannot go from ED to ICU immediately the ED resus becomes ICU and the already stretched ED staff need to monitor the patient in ED. If the patient in ED needs intubated the anaestetic reg needs to stay with them as ED staff aren't trained in intubation managment.

The anaesthetic reg then isn't free to see cases on the wards, anaestetic cases or any surgery cases and this is how things quickly snowball.

It does sound dire. Absolutely dire. I work in the public service too, I'm a teacher and I see the joke of a service provided despite how we the practitioners try our damndest to provide some kind of quality service.

But berating the public who are robbed in taxes is not the right way. Nor are insults or put downs.

Trying to offer an olive branch here as you may well be an exhausted frontliner.

Real Donald Trump · 28-10-2020 05:04AM

Glad to see people are wising up to this BS. Wish we had someone here call out RTE for all the scaremongering like this guy

moonage · 28-10-2020 07:01AM

smck321 wrote: »

ICU has been split into non covid and covid, non covid has 3 beds with 2 occupied and covid has 4 beds with 3 occupied.

But there's always pressure on our inadequate ICU capacity, especially in autumn and winter.

It wasn't all hunky dory before Covid arrived.

TomTomTim · 28-10-2020 09:25AM

bush wrote: »

Rte shove covid into everything. Watching a cooking show earlier and it was shoved in there. Can they not give it a break?

I used to throw on the Irish stations as background noise when I got up in the morning. I don't even bother anymore, as I'm simply sick of the same ****e everyday, virus this, virus that. Same goes for the radio, I never turn it on anymore.

ChikiChiki · 28-10-2020 09:46AM

Was dissapointed at how much Covid was mentioned in the Sunday game analysis before Clare and Limerick.

The reason I'd tuned was to find a semblance of normality and forget about Covid. The build up shots put a real downer on it.

GazzaL · 28-10-2020 09:51AM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Was dissapointed at how much Covid was mentioned in the Sunday game analysis before Clare and Limerick.

The reason I'd tuned was to find a semblance of normality and forget about Covid. The build up shots put a real downer on it.

Negativity is more infectious than COVID and it's everywhere in the media.

atilladehun · 28-10-2020 10:20AM

News on the hour every hour is awful for this. As far as I know stations are required to do this but I think it's created a weak headline media and made listeners satisfied with partial information only focused on entertaining news.

They should be focused on quality, not quantity.

bladespin · 28-10-2020 12:00PM

GazzaL wrote: »

Negativity is more infectious than COVID and it's everywhere in the media.

The heavy negative sells so much easier than a positive.

Really just dragging people down, we have to seperate ourselves from the constant downer.

Also struggling with the fact that the media (especially radio) are actually paid for their Covid reports, I can understand wanting to keep it at the forefront but don't think it's a good thing either.

Mr. Karate · 28-10-2020 02:12PM

Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Glad to see people are wising up to this BS. Wish we had someone here call out RTE for all the scaremongering like this guy

If only we had some politicians here to say that about RTE and BBC.

funnydoggy · 28-10-2020 02:30PM

We might need some politicians to say that, but jesus we do NOT need an Irish Trump. Dear god, imagine...

Richard Hillman · 29-10-2020 01:09PM

https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/1321785389347229696?s=19

Channel 4 has done very well out of lockdown. I would imagine the figures are replicated all over. Its almost as if Lockdowns are really good for the media.

ShineOn7 · 16-11-2020 03:33PM

They really are absolute cúnts

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1328304597040041987

Hit them where it hurts: don't pay your next TV license

There's not a judge in the land who'll take any license case serious next year

Mr. Karate · 20-11-2020 10:15PM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

They really are absolute cúnts

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1328304597040041987

Hit them where it hurts: don't pay your next TV license

There's not a judge in the land who'll take any license case serious next year

Proof that they have no intention of ever permanently getting rid of these restrictions. Why is a vaccine with a 95% success rate not enough for a virus with a survival rate of 99.96%? Too bad we don't have an honest media to ask these questions.

JasonStatham · 20-11-2020 10:33PM

RunningFlyer wrote: »

Forgive me for starting a thread if one already exists - I’ve read so many different threads and posts I’ve probably missed the obvious however...

It seems everyone is waiting daily for the 6pm figures to find out the latest cases and deaths situation. It’s scary to see how every single media outlet in this country is putting all their attention on this (yes, gloom sells). Not just RTE, but the other stations and every single paper has the latest on the front page in some form or another.

Contrast this to European media - search any of the national news channels or newspapers and you’ll find its never (usually) the top story. They are over the initial panic and are I guess realise they are in for the long haul with this virus.

People here are only obsessed with three things; deaths, cases and the “R” number. I’m not a Statistician or epidemiologist but a few weeks ago when there was concern and hype raised over the R number increasing beyond 1 on the basis of 20 odd cases or so made me completely lose faith in the strategy of the government/NPHET. 10mins reading about R numbers will prove it’s not an effective measurement with low numbers yet this was peddled across the media.

The fear-mongering of the Irish media is seriously starting to affect the mental health of the population - I’m sure everyone has witnessed it on a personal level either themselves or their friends/family. If you’re get stressed I highly recommend deleting the news apps, distract yourself around 6pm when you know the figures will be released, and try enjoy the last of the long days and sunshine because if the current media narrative continues, it’s going to be a miserable winter.

Ireland needs to evolve from our sheepish culture and learn to think outside the box and make our own opinions of matters. The media need to tone down the hysteria and the government need to realise this virus is here to stay so have to start making some difficult decisions against the ultra-conservative NPHET advice to safeguard the country.

Thoughts?

Ireland evolving from it's sheepish culture? Hah don't make me laugh.

ShineOn7 · 05-02-2021 08:27PM

This is superb from this man

RTE get the hole tore off them here

https://twitter.com/MlMcNamaraTD/status/1357327141348769798

I wonder is that why some of their headlines today have a slightly more positive slant about them?

Utter, utter ****

RunningFlyer · 05-02-2021 09:33PM

Agreed. Hope there are more TDs who challenge this situation.

I observed this week the top story for a few days on RTE and most outlets was about international travel, yet buried in the back of the website was this article about the extent of outbreaks and deaths in nursing homes etc:

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0202/1194446-coronavirus-ireland/

As has been attested to in other threads, even on positive days the media/gov/NPHET will always spin bad news.

I can understand a lot of the spin is to keep people in line for the seriousness of the virus, but the negativity and pessimism here is disgraceful. At least the UK media seems balanced with war-time spirit of highlighting their vaccination programme for optimism.

Edit. 6 months since topic started - glad to see there has been a shift in policy

Deeper Blue · 05-02-2021 10:13PM

I saw an article on the RTE website the other day:

"Five uplifting lockdown movies to make you feel better"

Eh how about putting a little bit of positivity in your news reporting instead?

Clowns

ShineOn7 · 05-02-2021 10:24PM

You just know the Forbes wan sent out an email to the top brass in News asking for for more positivity after Mcnamara made a show of them

Hopefully a journalist runs an FOI request on her this year as I'd say there's all sorts going on in there

ShineOn7 · 09-02-2021 01:51AM

What the fcuk happened earlier?

I refuse to watch or listen to anything associated with RTE, I saw this on Twitter

Did .... did they literally put O'Neil in a bubble?

https://twitter.com/JamesDeegan1979/status/1358922942332211200

ShineOn7 · 09-02-2021 01:55AM

More context here

There goes my last little bit of respect for O'Neil

He's nothing more than a celeb wannabe now

https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1358926477228732418

timeToLive · 09-02-2021 02:05AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What the fcuk happened earlier?

I refuse to watch or listen to anything associated with RTE, I saw this on Twitter

Did .... did they literally put O'Neil in a bubble?

https://twitter.com/JamesDeegan1979/status/1358922942332211200

why is luke o'neil always out and about?

I love to see people hating on RTE I have to admit:pac:

GT89 · 09-02-2021 02:10AM

ShineOn7 wrote: »

What the fcuk happened earlier?

I refuse to watch or listen to anything associated with RTE, I saw this on Twitter

Did .... did they literally put O'Neil in a bubble?

https://twitter.com/JamesDeegan1979/status/1358922942332211200

Wtf. They're actually talking about this in a serious context.

NIMAN · 09-02-2021 10:41PM

The Long Covid issue got a lot of airtime on LiveLine today.

And as many posters on the radio forum said, watch out cos RTE will be going down this alley when the deaths, ICU numbers and positivity rate starts to fall.

Just when things start to look better, long covid will be pulled out of the hat and we'll have specials, Claire Byrne, late late show etc all talking about it.

ElektroToad · 09-02-2021 11:06PM

I used to believe in the concept of a free media. Up until recently, the thought of controlling it made me think of tin-pot dictatorships and failed states.

However, after watching the blatant doom merchanting of RTE the past year or so, I've now totally reconsidered my view on this. Their narrative of non-stop hysteria, distortion of figures, blatant bias and absence of any real debate of the whole covid situation is very dangerous in my view. It's filling peoples heads with fear and nonsense in equal measure.

The doom and misery may be great for RTE viewership numbers and ratings (they literally have a "captive audience" who cannot leave their homes afterall!) but I believe they have utterly failed to keep the public informed in an even-handed manner about current affairs. As a state-owned broadcaster, I believe they have a moral duty to do this.

If TLDR - I think stronger state-control of media is a potentially good thing? Christ what's the world coming to :eek:

NIMAN · 09-02-2021 11:12PM

And believe it or not, did I hear a piece on rte about all the medical cases building up unseen due to all resources going to the covid fight?

They are getting their backup plan organised. If this time next year COVID isn't a news story, we will have specials on all those who missed their cancer treatments, have now a heart that isn't working, depression rates and suicides through the roof, despite the fact they ignored all these illnesses during covid.

ShineOn7 · 09-02-2021 11:16PM

NIMAN wrote: »

And believe it or not, did I hear a piece on rte about all the medical cases building up unseen due to all resources going to the covid fight?

They are getting their backup plan organised. If this time next year COVID isn't a news story, we will have specials on all those who missed their cancer treatments, have now a heart that isn't working, depression rates and suicides through the roof, despite the fact they ignored all these illnesses during covid.

And yet the Late Late Show thread in the TV forum gets 500 replies some Fridays

Stop. Watching. RTE.

Stop listening to their radio stations.

Stop giving RTE.ie clicks.

It's 2021 ffs. You have options

The Irish media hysteria

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