Next%- the ongoing debate

The Spy Queen · 07-01-2021 7:02pm

Very little mileage on my vaporflys and the diamond shapes on rear of sould have fell off both shoes making them impossible to run on in wet conditions. Recently bought a pair of pegasus turbo , 10 weeks ago and the soul on them is lifting away from main body of runner. Never happened on any other shoes ive bought. So imo quality of nikes are not great.

skyblue46 · 07-01-2021 8:31pm

^ Not a new profile of mine :pac::pac:

Cona · 11-01-2021 6:23pm

So got the new vapourflys. Have only tried them on in the house so far. Must say they feel fast and comfortable. Excited to try them now.
Will wait a few weeks to test them though. Had a long layoff due to sickness over Christmas so want to be feeling fit before I wear them (weird I know)

boydkev · 14-01-2021 3:14pm

Query for all who have the Next% Vaporflys, I got a pair for Xmas and they were my usual Nike size of 8 (42.5) just my initial thoughts are they are quite tight around the widest part of my foot, so to check i ordered another pair in size 8.5 using my birthday code. So the 8.5 arrived today and the width seems to be better but my concern is they will loosen over time. i Now need to return one of them.

How do others feel these shoes fit on them, Should they be snug or should i be allowing for expansion as they will be used for marathon distance.

demfad · 14-01-2021 4:55pm

Cona wrote: »

Anyone have issues when ordering direct from Nike....the last three orders I’ve placed with them they seem to seriously mess up. I ordered Vapourfly on the 28th and see that the payment was reverted to my account today. The order status says they will be with me on the 13th but from past experience I know in a day or two they will cancel the order and send me some make up excuse...
Weird thing is they seem to have plenty of stock so I’m confused now...

They seem to be a seriously messed up company to order from, I know I can’t be only one with this experience

Serious issues in International shipping capacity at moment which would explain shoes suddenly becoming unavailable (no space on ship not no stock).

https://www.lloydsloadinglist.com/freight-directory/news/China-UK-rates-top-16000feu-in-ocean-auction/78256.htm?cl=article_1&elqTrack=true&mc_cid=c49b948955&mc_eid=425a13f1ba#.YABmc-iwk2y

peter kern · 15-01-2021 2:30pm

Cona wrote: »

No offence here, but people really need to differentiate their needs. Your post seems to imply that you didn’t want to pay for the Nikes and went the next best thing that was more affordable for you. Totally fine.
For me I’d hate that approach. If I’m paying good money for something, I want the best available (even if it’s just psychological)

At the moment, the Nike still holds the crown and until we see evidence and testing it will prob stay that way.

sorry this is not correct we are now in an area where it depends on a runner what shoe will be faster.
and at the half marathon distance adidas already has 4 shoes in the 3 fastest men and female all time times and nike only 2.
from some individual testing i have seen the nike seems to always come in the top 2 so it might still be the safest bet but it does not hold the crown alone.

FinnC · 15-01-2021 3:19pm

boydkev wrote: »

Query for all who have the Next% Vaporflys, I got a pair for Xmas and they were my usual Nike size of 8 (42.5) just my initial thoughts are they are quite tight around the widest part of my foot, so to check i ordered another pair in size 8.5 using my birthday code. So the 8.5 arrived today and the width seems to be better but my concern is they will loosen over time. i Now need to return one of them.

How do others feel these shoes fit on them, Should they be snug or should i be allowing for expansion as they will be used for marathon distance.

I’m also a size 8, well I’m a size 42.5 as size 8 can be different for different manufacturers. Size 8 in New Balance for example is a 42 so I have to get an 8.5.
Anyway I got size 42.5 for the Next% and they fit fine though I have them 4 months and have only put 11km on them!

and still ricky villa · 15-01-2021 5:35pm

boydkev wrote: »

Query for all who have the Next% Vaporflys, I got a pair for Xmas and they were my usual Nike size of 8 (42.5) just my initial thoughts are they are quite tight around the widest part of my foot, so to check i ordered another pair in size 8.5 using my birthday code. So the 8.5 arrived today and the width seems to be better but my concern is they will loosen over time. i Now need to return one of them.

How do others feel these shoes fit on them, Should they be snug or should i be allowing for expansion as they will be used for marathon distance.

I would say they are true to size. I'm a bog standard 11UK in all other runners I have and went 11 in the Vaporflys. They fit well and I've just finished my longest run in them yet at 22km and no issues. The 2nd smallest toe on my right foot is sore but that is probably to do with battered odd feet more than sizing

Tigerandahalf · 15-01-2021 6:42pm

I notice the heel is very narrow on these Vaplorflies. I am wondering are there issues for people who wear down either side of the heal?
Maybe all Nikes are like this?

healy1835 · 15-01-2021 7:01pm

4%'s and Next%'s have both been true to size for me anyway.

MY BAD · 15-01-2021 9:44pm

Nike Vaporfly Next % 2 via Nike talk

Only change is to the upper and laces

rizzee · 05-02-2021 8:38pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

I notice the heel is very narrow on these Vaplorflies. I am wondering are there issues for people who wear down either side of the heal?
Maybe all Nikes are like this?

Nearly 400kms on my Zoomfly Flyknits and the outter side of each heel slightly worn. Touching 200kms in my Vapourlflys and barely worn despite the narrow heel. Maybe it's just me!!

ThebitterLemon · 05-02-2021 8:59pm

Stupid question but how do these shoes make you go faster and are there different types/levels?

I’ve worn Nike Zoom Vomero for years but I’d be prepared to try these if they genuinely worked?

Thanks

TbL

OOnegative · 05-02-2021 9:15pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Stupid question but how do these shoes make you go faster and are there different types/levels?

I’ve worn Nike Zoom Vomero for years but I’d be prepared to try these if they genuinely worked?

Thanks

TbL

Don’t, you’re a caveman like me!! These hipsters are not for us C........

ThebitterLemon · 05-02-2021 9:20pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Don’t, you’re a caveman like me!! These hipsters are not for us C........

didn’t even know that such witchcraft existed, do they come in black and scutter proof

TbL

Swashbuckler · 05-02-2021 9:36pm

OOnegative wrote: »

Don’t, you’re a caveman like me!! These hipsters are not for us C........

How have you let him run in Vomeros for years.... Some friend!

OOnegative · 05-02-2021 9:42pm

Swashbuckler wrote: »

How have you let him run in Vomeros for years.... Some friend!

Because when a friend feels comfortable in something you stick by them, even if it’s leggings/shorts combo.......

rizzee · 05-02-2021 9:43pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Stupid question but how do these shoes make you go faster and are there different types/levels?

I’ve worn Nike Zoom Vomero for years but I’d be prepared to try these if they genuinely worked?

Thanks

TbL

I got a pair of VFs last year and first try in 5km, 10km, 10m, HM and Marathon I PB'd, and some very significantly - Marathon 40 mins albeit it was a year since the last one I completed and a lot of training since, did another 3 weeks later and beat it by 4 mins. Went over 5mins PB in HM, over 1 min on 5km 1st try and then beating it even further on both 2nd and 3rd attempts! Well worth the investment. Got the Alphaflys delivered today which I'm going to pop out on a 5km TT next week to see what the story is with them.

Nike 60 day returns if you don't like them too!

ThebitterLemon · 05-02-2021 9:49pm

rizzee wrote: »

I got a pair of VFs last year and first try in 5km, 10km, 10m, HM and Marathon I PB'd, and some very significantly - Marathon 40 mins albeit it was a year since the last one I completed and a lot of training since, did another 3 weeks later and beat it by 4 mins. Went over 5mins PB in HM, over 1 min on 5km 1st try and then beating it even further on both 2nd and 3rd attempts! Well worth the investment. Got the Alphaflys delivered today which I'm going to pop out on a 5km TT next week to see what the story is with them.

Nike 60 day returns if you don't like them too!

Thank you.

What’s the science beyond how they work?

How much did you pay?

TbL

Dubh Geannain · 05-02-2021 9:58pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Stupid question but how do these shoes make you go faster and are there different types/levels?

I’ve worn Nike Zoom Vomero for years but I’d be prepared to try these if they genuinely worked?

Thanks

TbL

Paging Murph.

This race has taken a sinister turn. I hope he's keeping an eye on the food and nutrition forum too.

Laineyfrecks · 05-02-2021 9:59pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Thank you.

What’s the science beyond how they work?

How much did you pay?

TbL

You'll be walking that catwalk in style in no time :cool:;)

ThebitterLemon · 05-02-2021 10:25pm

Laineyfrecks wrote: »

You'll be walking that catwalk in style in no time :cool:;)

Black and scutter proof I said...:)

TbL

FinnC · 05-02-2021 10:52pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Stupid question but how do these shoes make you go faster and are there different types/levels?

I’ve worn Nike Zoom Vomero for years but I’d be prepared to try these if they genuinely worked?

Thanks

TbL

From a Vomero to a Next% would be like going from a Toyota Corolla to a McLaren F1..!

ThebitterLemon · 05-02-2021 10:55pm

FinnC wrote: »

From a Vomero to a Next% would be like going from a Toyota Corolla to a McLaren F1..!

Thanks

I probably just need to upgrade to a Passat to beat Murph.

Where can you buy these magic carpets I can’t find them available on the web?

TbL

Murph_D · 06-02-2021 12:58pm

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

Thanks

I probably just need to upgrade to a Passat to beat Murph.

Where can you buy these magic carpets I can’t find them available on the web?

TbL

I'd say a Lada would be good enough the way I'm going at the moment.

I can't believe TbL is only hearing about the VF / Next% now though. Is this a sinister ploy to make us all think he's losing his marbles?

C - the VFs are very hard to get at the moment, but a man who moves in your kind of circles should have no problems. And if you want to know how they work, read the thread, you lazy sod.

skyblue46 · 06-02-2021 1:40pm

I think it's so sad that someone who derides bright shoes and coloured laces would resort to sprung platform shoes in lurid colours just to get an edge...:(

PS...have a look at the Craft CTM Ultra Carbon

https://www.craftsportswear.com/global/ctm-ultra-carbon-male-multi-color-1910453-013000

ThebitterLemon · 06-02-2021 1:45pm

skyblue46 wrote: »

I think it's so sad that someone who derides bright shoes and coloured laces would resort to sprung platform shoes in lurid colours just to get an edge...:(

PS...have a look at the Craft CTM Ultra Carbon

https://www.craftsportswear.com/global/ctm-ultra-carbon-male-multi-color-1910453-013000

Those craft yokes only have pygmy sizes left and I’d look like a pygmy zebra to boot

TbL

Butterbeans · 06-02-2021 4:49pm

Sizewize, does anyone have any pointers on the Vaporflys Next%.
I've read they fit 1/2 size small. I usually take size 10, but the last pair of Nike I had (which was over 5 years ago) were 10.5, and I probably could have gone up a half size in them.

Murph_D · 06-02-2021 5:10pm

Butterbeans wrote: »

Sizewize, does anyone have any pointers on the Vaporflys Next%.
I've read they fit 1/2 size small. I usually take size 10, but the last pair of Nike I had (which was over 5 years ago) were 10.5, and I probably could have gone up a half size in them.

I find the sizing consistent with other Nike models.

ThebitterLemon · 06-02-2021 6:08pm

Murph_D wrote: »

I find the sizing consistent with other Nike models.

So you’ve been wearing these yokes...

TbL

Next%- the ongoing debate

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