Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Widdensushi · 05-02-2021 02:37PM

hynesie08 wrote: »

https://mobile.twitter.com/adriancummins/status/1357637954039123970

Let the floodgates open.....

Probably appealed to Europe and turned over.

BorneTobyWilde · 05-02-2021 03:14PM

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/pub-owners-should-be-compensated-by-fbd-insurance-for-covid-19-losses-high-court-says-in-landmark-ruling/ar-BB1dpGE7?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBr5KbJ

That's a big call.

frozen3 · 05-02-2021 03:16PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/newsireland/pub-owners-should-be-compensated-by-fbd-insurance-for-covid-19-losses-high-court-says-in-landmark-ruling/ar-BB1dpGE7?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBr5KbJ

That's a big call.

What the country needs

When banks and insurance companies start getting hit, this malarkey of closing places will be over

FishOnABike · 05-02-2021 03:16PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Maybe a slight easing of restrictions in early March though?

Would like to get to the stage where we can travel within our own county or at least as far as 10km. It would open up so many more possibilities.

Sweet.Science · 05-02-2021 03:17PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Probably appealed to Europe and turned over.

No chance . FBD didnt have a leg to stand on.

mohawk · 05-02-2021 03:19PM

FishOnABike wrote: »

Would like to get to the stage where we can travel within our own county or st least as far as 10km. It would open up so many more possibilities.

It would help with the monotony of the same walks over and over again.

MerlinSouthDub · 05-02-2021 03:21PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

No chance . FBD didnt have a leg to stand on.

Yes. FBD had specific cover for infectious diseases within their business interruption product. This decision relates specifically to FBD, and has no impact on other insurers.

cameramonkey · 05-02-2021 03:25PM

IF an insurance company goes bust I suppose they cannot pay out.
This also translates into huge insurance hikes for all.

Eggs For Dinner · 05-02-2021 03:33PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Yes. FBD had specific cover for infectious diseases within their business interruption product. This decision relates specifically to FBD, and has no impact on other insurers.

They nearly all have infectious disease cover, but that is not what decided this case. Without getting too technical, policies which clearly state the outbreak must occur "at the premises" will get little comfort from this ruling. FBD's policy stipulated that an outbreak must occur "within 25 miles of the premises"

Eggs For Dinner · 05-02-2021 03:41PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

No chance . FBD didnt have a leg to stand on.

They did, though I'm glad they lost. An appeal is not out of the question

Sweet.Science · 05-02-2021 03:45PM

Eggs For Dinner wrote: »

They did, though I'm glad they lost. An appeal is not out of the question

Well then they will just be wasting their money. Which they will need .

seamus · 05-02-2021 04:22PM

20,241 swabs, 1,009 positive.....4.98% ! 7-day now down to 6.08%

Great result today. Great news after a few iffy days.

Hopefully it may continue.

Just Saying · 05-02-2021 04:24PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Yes. FBD had specific cover for infectious diseases within their business interruption product. This decision relates specifically to FBD, and has no impact on other insurers.

While this decision relates specifically to FBD it may have an impact for other insurers.The wording of the FBD policy made it the easiest Business Interruption Policy to take a successful legal action against.
However the interpretation of the verdict may mean that other policies may also now be able to have a successful legal legal challenge taken against them.
As well as winning the ruling there will be close scrutiny given to the level of damages awarded.Just because you had cover in place based on the amount of the loss of Gross Profits doesn't mean you will get the full amount.
For example how much did closure actually cost you?Even if the pubs were open what level of business would they have had given the Govt. stay at home advisory,the travel restrictions and the reluctance of many to come out(in the early stages of the pandemic at least).
Also the level of state support especially in the form of the CRSS may also be a factor..

cjyid · 05-02-2021 04:26PM

Now that's some good numbers!

KrustyUCC · 05-02-2021 04:29PM

seamus wrote: »

20,241 swabs, 1,009 positive.....4.98% ! 7-day now down to 6.08%

Great result today. Great news after a few iffy days.

Hopefully it may continue.

That's great progress

Super to be under 5% positivity rate

Eggs For Dinner · 05-02-2021 04:34PM

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Well then they will just be wasting their money. Which they will need .

On what do you base that?

cameramonkey · 05-02-2021 05:24PM

is this the licensed vintners and insurance thread?

Eggs For Dinner · 05-02-2021 05:48PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

is this the licensed vintners and insurance thread?

It's an aspect of Covid-19 which has affected the vast majority of businesses in Ireland.

Gruffalux · 05-02-2021 06:24PM

the corpo wrote: »

Up to 100 UK children a week hospitalised with rare post-Covid disease

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/05/up-to-100-uk-children-a-week-hospitalised-with-rare-post-covid-disease

I just saw this and in spite of you getting a reply here that it says ''It is rare'', I am still a bit WTAF at that...I mean ''rare'' is not up to a 100 children a week hospitalised with an inflammatory disease that can put them in ICU.

While specialists do not believe the disease has increased in frequency relative to cases in the wider community, numbers are higher than in the first wave, with hospitals understood to have been admitting up to 100 young people a week during the second wave, compared with about 30 a week last April.

Normal One · 05-02-2021 06:43PM

35 deaths, 1047 cases

hynesie08 · 05-02-2021 06:46PM

Normal One wrote: »

35 deaths, 1047 cases

Well, it's a drop.

KrustyUCC · 05-02-2021 06:46PM

Normal One wrote: »

35 deaths, 1047 cases

RIP

not bad cases

207 less than this day last week

is_that_so · 05-02-2021 06:47PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

I just saw this and in spite of you getting a reply here that it says ''It is rare'', I am still a bit WTAF at that...I mean ''rare'' is not up to a 100 children a week hospitalised with an inflammatory disease that can put them in ICU.

With the UK, at one stage, hitting 60K cases a day, 100 cases a week is pretty rare.

Galwayhurl · 05-02-2021 06:54PM

Not bad from a numbers point of view. Tragic for the families bereaved.

Hopefully we can get a few days with under 1000 cases next week.

Just Saying · 05-02-2021 06:58PM

cameramonkey wrote: »

is this the licensed vintners and insurance thread?

It is Covid related and its hardly the most off topic item ever discussed on one of these threads.

In any event it didn't prevent you from highlighting your lack of knowledge of the topic with your contribution in post # 4034.:D

polesheep · 05-02-2021 07:11PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

I just saw this and in spite of you getting a reply here that it says ''It is rare'', I am still a bit WTAF at that...I mean ''rare'' is not up to a 100 children a week hospitalised with an inflammatory disease that can put them in ICU.

Only it wasn't a reply. It was a direct quote from the article. Did you read it all?

Stateofyou · 05-02-2021 07:16PM

is_that_so wrote: »

With the UK, at one stage, hitting 60K cases a day, 100 cases a week is pretty rare.

400 hundred children a month with an inflammatory disease is 400 too many.

05-02-2021 07:19PM

Gruffalux wrote: »

I just saw this and in spite of you getting a reply here that it says ''It is rare'', I am still a bit WTAF at that...I mean ''rare'' is not up to a 100 children a week hospitalised with an inflammatory disease that can put them in ICU.

The reality doesn't match the headline.

https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1357733395510554625?s=20
https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1357733400434659331?s=20

marno21 · 05-02-2021 07:28PM

We're simultaneously breaking the 1000 swabs a day on a non Monday/Tuesday and the 5% +ve rate threshold. We're about to get this properly under control now.

We have another 4 weeks of Level 5+ programmed at the minute. We should be at 200-300 cases per day by the end now that close contacts are being tested and caught. Hospital numbers are falling rapidly and we've peaked with ICU numbers. Hospital numbers have dropped nearly 40% in the last 12 days and ICU numbers are down 20% or so this week

It's time now that NPHET + The Government make the first cautious steps towards a slow, sustainable reopening. It's time to start discussion about how the process of reopening schools and construction will commence.

Level 4 (possibly without bars/pubs/restaurants) seems ideal for March. Some low risk activities (outdoor sports training, travel within your own county) are permitted, but anything of relevant risk is closed. If Level 4 wasn't made for this March I don't know what it was made for.

KrustyUCC · 05-02-2021 07:32PM

marno21 wrote: »

We're simultaneously breaking the 1000 swabs a day on a non Monday/Tuesday and the 5% +ve rate threshold. We're about to get this properly under control now.

We have another 4 weeks of Level 5+ programmed at the minute. We should be at 200-300 cases per day by the end now that close contacts are being tested and caught. Hospital numbers are falling rapidly and we've peaked with ICU numbers. Hospital numbers have dropped nearly 40% in the last 12 days and ICU numbers are down 20% or so this week

It's time now that NPHET + The Government make the first cautious steps towards a slow, sustainable reopening. It's time to start discussion about how the process of reopening schools and construction will commence.

Level 4 (possibly without bars/pubs/restaurants) seems ideal for March. Some low risk activities (outdoor sports training, travel within your own county) are permitted, but anything of relevant risk is closed. If Level 4 wasn't made for this March I don't know what it was made for.

Will be level 4+ so unfortunately they won't allow travel within your county imo

They might expand to 20km instead

Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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