Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Graham · 03-02-2021 02:18AM

ypres5 wrote: »

but if the money can be borrowed consequence free how come the government haven't done it already?

10 points if you manage to find any of my posts where I say money can be borrowed consequence free.

Hint: you're going to be searching for quite some time..

Atlantic Dawn · 03-02-2021 02:21AM

19th February we will be 8 weeks from epicentre of infection which was Christmas Day, that's the waterline, I'd expect circa 500 or less new cases that day and a push to relax restrictions from 1st March which is a Monday, level 4 or possibly 3 perhaps.

PTH2009 · 03-02-2021 02:29AM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

19th February we will be 8 weeks from epicentre of infection which was Christmas Day, that's the waterline, I'd expect circa 500 or less new cases that day and a push to relax restrictions from 1st March which is a Monday, level 4 or possibly 3 perhaps.

expect a few covid case numbers to be plucked out of the sky around then

Windmill100000 · 03-02-2021 02:34AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

expect a few covid case numbers to be plucked out of the sky around then

You are saying numbers are made up and would not be able to be traced to actual deaths?

dalyboy · 03-02-2021 02:42AM

showpony1 wrote: »

Social Media.

Wardrobe.

There , I can say irrelevant things too .

hynesie08 · 03-02-2021 02:46AM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

You are saying numbers are made up and would not be able to be traced to actual deaths?

He doesn't believe in science and thinks case numbers are a conspiracy, I wouldn't bother.

aziz · 03-02-2021 02:47AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

expect a few covid case numbers to be plucked out of the sky around then

No ,it will be a new variant on the loose

growleaves · 03-02-2021 02:50AM

Graham wrote: »

You should probably tell every other first world country that they're doing it wrong too.

They are though.

Is your answer to everything "It's a global policy therefore it can't be wrong"?

The debt servicing combined with asset inflation will lower the standard of living for the ordinary person.

03-02-2021 02:53AM

Might as well just sling this thread off to the conspiracy section.

fin12 · 03-02-2021 03:19AM

aziz wrote: »

No ,it will be a new variant on the loose

Or all the number of deaths over the entire month announced on March 4th as daily figure ,

dalyboy · 03-02-2021 03:52AM

aziz wrote: »

No ,it will be a new variant on the loose

My money is on a new “deadlier” & “vaccine resistant” variant. Wait till about mid to late March for their announcement.

They’ll need it to enforce the foreign travel ban and muster up summer twitcher support.

Penfailed · 03-02-2021 06:53AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

under 1000 cases today. end game in sight, thankfully government seem to be thinking along the lines of normal service resuming in June/July. Donnelly said he sees crowds back at sporting events and music festivals before summer is out.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/top-irish-expert-pinpoints-moment-23420748.amp

walus · 03-02-2021 08:02AM

Graham wrote: »

Because that see the money spent in an uncontrolled manner.

I'd have no issue with some 'stimulus' funding as well as investment in infrastructure, education, R & D, green energy, housing, new businesses.

The idea is to keep the economy moving ready to restart with a jump.

What we don't want is to start the vicious circle of decreased spending, shrinking economy, deflation, increasing unemployment.....

It all sounds nice, in theory. They have been using this quantitative easing as a stimulus to the economy from around 2014/15 without success. Productivity remained at shockingly low level. That was in the good times. What makes you think that this time it is going to work?

This stimulus as you call it is nothing of the sort. It is just so that we can keep the lights on. They are printing money like mad now but that money is not being spent, does not circulate in the economy. Velocity of money is absolutely at rock bottom as people hold on to it (paying debts off, saving) in preparation for a massive recession that is sure to follow. You can print as much money as you want but if velocity is low the economy will contract regardless. That is what happens with economy that is in 70% driven by consumption. You don't have velocity, you don't have growth, regardless of money supply.

walus · 03-02-2021 08:08AM

dalyboy wrote: »

My money is on a new “deadlier” & “vaccine resistant” variant. Wait till about mid to late March for their announcement.

They’ll need it to enforce the foreign travel ban and muster up summer twitcher support.

Just like the new variants surfaced at roughly the same time as the vaccines were shipping from the factories, the new Nicaraguan or Sudanese mutation is sure to pop up sometime between now and autumn, so that the vaccine can get a better traction with those anti-vaxxers or to encourage holiday seekers to sign up to a health passport for travelling.

GazzaL · 03-02-2021 08:19AM

PTH2009 wrote: »

expect a few covid case numbers to be plucked out of the sky around then

They'll probably start testing every man and his dog then and increase the test cycles.

03-02-2021 09:02AM

GazzaL wrote: »

They'll probably start testing every man and his dog then and increase the test cycles.

Why? To make claims of an extraordinary conspiracy, there must be some extraordinary evidence

Don't Chute! · 03-02-2021 09:11AM

showpony1 wrote: »

The cases have dropped down to 879 bringing about hope of easing restrictions, therefore now is the time to announce "the highest ever death toll for a day" of 101 - however 83 of the deaths occcured "sometime in January" not today - Tony and the boys at it again?

This type of stuff really makes you think that there is no real cause for optimism of these lads relinquishing control ever again.

Yeah I saw that on the news last night. Up to now it’s been case numbers first then that days deaths. Last night it was yesterdays deaths then TOTAL deaths and THEN case numbers.
Case numbers are going down lads time to do the old switcharoo. Gotta keep these morons scared. Pure unadulterated scare-mongering.

03-02-2021 09:16AM

showpony1 wrote: »

The cases have dropped down to 879 bringing about hope of easing restrictions, therefore now is the time to announce "the highest ever death toll for a day" of 101 - however 83 of the deaths occcured "sometime in January" not today - Tony and the boys at it again?

This type of stuff really makes you think that there is no real cause for optimism of these lads relinquishing control ever again.

More loss of grip on reality - look at every Tuesday (Mondays data), and then compare to the two previous days. Now apply some critical thinking and ask yourself why deaths reported to the HSPC might be lower on a Saturday and Sunday.

But oh no, its a conspiracy!!!! And people wonder why the credibility of much of what is discussed on this thread is questioned.

Boggles · 03-02-2021 09:37AM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Yeah I saw that on the news last night. Up to now it’s been case numbers first then that days deaths. Last night it was yesterdays deaths then TOTAL deaths and THEN case numbers.
Case numbers are going down lads time to do the old switcharoo. Gotta keep these morons scared. Pure unadulterated scare-mongering.

Thank Christ for the truth tellers.

Everyday on here exposing Tony and his coven storing up death announcements and fabricating strains.

We can't be long off now donning animal fur and storming the health ministry.

Rise up sheeple!!!

uli84 · 03-02-2021 09:39AM

I’m just simply tired, there has been some sort of movement restrictions since October with maybe 1 week break in December, that’s 4 months already. Back to March last year and 4 months brings us to July which was bearable. Now, we have vaccines, so much more knowledge about the virus and all and it’s only getting worse and worse in terms of taking our rights/freedoms away, awful weather doesn’t help, just feels like I’m in a trap.

Graham · 03-02-2021 09:43AM

growleaves wrote: »

They are though.

Is your answer to everything "It's a global policy therefore it can't be wrong"?.

No, my answer is I understand the economic reasons for keeping economies moving and the risks if we fail.

pjohnson · 03-02-2021 09:50AM

So now this thread has morphed into a full blown conspiracy thread?

03-02-2021 10:06AM

Listening to Newstalk Breakfast with Shane Beatty, idea floated that politicians should take a 25% paycut in solidarity with half a million people who suffered one involuntarily. Sensible idea, actually giving credence to the fallacy that "we're all in this together". Naturally Shane then waved off the proposal with hyperbolic disdain, "why not take 100% off them". Total disconnect, people in positions of prominence don't comprehend the struggles of the ordinary Joe. It's alright for them, it certainly ain't alright for me. And these individuals are most in favour of extending lockdown/restrictions, nothing to lose and everything to gain when you're nigh untouchable.

Don't Chute! · 03-02-2021 10:08AM

Boggles wrote: »

Thank Christ for the truth tellers.

Everyday on here exposing Tony and his coven storing up death announcements and fabricating strains.

We can't be long off now donning animal fur and storming the health ministry.

Rise up sheeple!!!

Where did I say he’s storing up announcements and fabricating strains? If you don’t understand the point of my post you shouldn’t really be commenting on it.

clayfarm1234 · 03-02-2021 10:10AM

"Varadkar said that while businesses will likely have to wait until at least March to reopen their doors, schools and construction sites could open again before this time" (https://www.her.ie/news/when-will-lockdown-end-in-ireland-516505)

Any other thoughts on when the construction will reopen again !?

Graham · 03-02-2021 10:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Listening to Newstalk Breakfast with Shane Beatty, idea floated that politicians should take a 25% paycut in solidarity with half a million people who suffered one involuntarily

Somebody somewhere is always going to be calling for politicians to take a paycut.

What's the connection to COVID restrictions?

Graham · 03-02-2021 10:13AM

clayfarm1234 wrote: »

Any other thoughts on when the construction will reopen again !?

I'd assume there's a 14 day average case number target, once we get below that construction will re-open.

No idea what that number might be.

Russman · 03-02-2021 10:19AM

Graham wrote: »

Somebody somewhere is always going to be calling for politicians to take a paycut.

What's the connection to COVID restrictions?

There is none, but apparently if politicians take a pay cut its, I dunno, something, something, something, elites, six figure salaries, bla, bla.......
Seemingly if public health experts earned less they'd open everything and let COVID rip or something. Who knows.

Silentcorner · 03-02-2021 10:20AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Why? To make claims of an extraordinary conspiracy, there must be some extraordinary evidence

Isn't that what Lance Armstrong said to Paul Kimmage? The most famous cheat of all time!

There isn't a chance our health system is going to be under any pressure between now and Nov....not a chance, we are a year into this but it seems like we haven't learned a thing.

Covid Zero thankfully has been ruled out
Covid suppression is the new name of the game, only it is utterly futile, like all our restrictions from May -Sept.
There is a seasonality factor that is being completely ignored, so the figured will be juiced as hard as they can to justify the insanity of imposing near level 5 restrictions in March/April.

Living with Covid, the old name of the game has been thrown out the window.

The Swedes had the lightest restrictions, we had the longest most severe restrictions in Europe....one year into this, it is becoming increasingly obvious which route was the smartest.

Boggles · 03-02-2021 10:21AM

Don't Chute! wrote: »

Where did I say he’s storing up announcements and fabricating strains? If you don’t understand the point of my post you shouldn’t really be commenting on it.

I understood perfectly.

We need to tell the truth to the "morons".

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings