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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #3452
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Tommy Mescall on Six One: "The HSE couldn't provide figures on how many nursing home residents have yet to be vaccinated." Quelle surprise, that would involve taking responsibility and as a faceless organisation no one person is held accountable. I fear there are a series of roadblocks ahead with such incompetence, Ireland falling further behind schedule in delivery of vaccines and restrictions extended.
    Actually they mentioned last week that there were a number of outbreaks, so they couldn't do those locations. If someone has COVID they have to wait 4 weeks for a shot.


  • #3453
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Tommy Mescall on Six One: "The HSE couldn't provide figures on how many nursing home residents have yet to be vaccinated." Quelle surprise, that would involve taking responsibility and as a faceless organisation no one person is held accountable. I fear there are a series of roadblocks ahead with such incompetence, Ireland falling further behind schedule in delivery of vaccines and restrictions extended.

    We can't tell you how many people have received a life saving vaccine but if you want to know how many people arrived into Dublin airport today no problem, would you like the numbers for the ports aswell? no problem either.


  • #3454
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,352 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Cerveza wrote: »
    Case numbers are under the 1,000, time to get the ruined economy back up and running.

    Yeah, reopening at 200 cases was such a success we should do it at 900.....


  • #3455
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Yeah, reopening at 200 cases was such a success we should do it at 900.....

    After six weeks of restrictions prior to traditionally the busiest time of the year for retail and hospitality.
    Any thoughts yourself when we should reopen? How many cases would you be comfortable with ?


  • #3456
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #3457
    frozen3
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 111 ✭✭frozen3


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Yeah, reopening at 200 cases was such a success we should do it at 900.....

    Let's be honest we couldnt reopen with 1 case without a vaccine

    Hire clowns get a circus and that's what we have had for 11 months

    We will wait till most of country is vaccinated before we open below level 4 imo

    It will never work otherwise


  • #3458
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    WicklaBlaa wrote: »
    83 happened throughout January - so I don't know what we can take from the number.

    January was less than 48 hours ago! They could have all died on Saturday and Sunday for all we know.


  • #3459
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    The majority of the country won't be vaccinated until after the summer

    Level 4 until after the summer, not seeing friends family, partners for the majority of the year once again isn't workable


  • #3460
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    frozen3 wrote: »
    Let's be honest we couldnt reopen with 1 case without a vaccine

    Hire clowns get a circus and that's what we have had for 11 months

    We will wait till most of country is vaccinated before we open below level 4 imo

    It will never work otherwise

    Tony Holohan will be running for Taoiseach for one of the major parties on the manifesto commitment that life will return to Level 4 restrictions by the second-quarter of 2023.


  • #3461
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    After six weeks of restrictions prior to traditionally the busiest time of the year for retail and hospitality.
    Any thoughts yourself when we should reopen? How many cases would you be comfortable with ?

    I have a comfortable number of cases in mind (that I only consider viable if hospital stresses are under a certain level).

    We will (I hope) hit the number of cases before the hospital numbers I have in mind.

    For me it's cases under 300
    If the nursing homes and health care vaccinations are completed cases under 500.

    But only if
    ICU numbers are under 50
    Hospital numbers are under 400

    Bear in mind I would be calling for a slow enough reopening. Small steps.


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  • #3462
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I have a comfortable number of cases in mind (that I only consider viable if hospital stresses are under a certain level).

    We will (I hope) hit the number of cases before the hospital numbers I have in mind.

    For me it's cases under 300
    If the nursing homes and health care vaccinations are completed cases under 500.

    But only if
    ICU numbers are under 50
    Hospital numbers are under 400

    Case numbers are put into question once mass vaccinations take place.

    For example, 5,000 cases per day with vaccinations done and dusted for the over 60s is very different from 5,000 cases with no vaccinations.

    Case numbers will slowly start to become irrelevant. What will take its place is the number of hospitalizations each day.


  • #3463
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Case numbers are put into question once mass vaccinations take place.

    For example, 5,000 cases per day with vaccinations done and dusted for the over 60s is very different from 5,000 cases with no vaccinations.

    Case numbers will slowly start to become irrelevant. What will take its place is the number of hospitalizations each day.

    Hospitalisations are too late. Its almost 3 weeks on average from infection to hospitalisation usually.

    They will still listen to case numbers to predict hospital numbers but the formula will change as the variables change.


  • #3464
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html

    Takes time for the first vaccine to take effect.

    Second dose matters, too - which wasn't administered in this case either.

    Contracting the virus in the early stages of the vaccine / week before the vaccination, can still lead to death from the virus.

    These headlines by news organizations are shameful. They instill fear into an already gullible and stupid public that believe vaccines are harmful.


  • #3465
    CapriciousOne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 148 ✭✭CapriciousOne


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html

    Why have you phrased that to make it sound like the vaccine was responsible for their deaths? Bizarre.


  • #3466
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    CapriciousOne wrote: »
    Why have you phrased that to make it sound like the vaccine was responsible for their deaths? Bizarre.

    Really bizarre carry on. Genuinely pathetic.


  • #3467
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Deleted User wrote: »
    These headlines by news organizations are shameful.
    I think that's the poster's headline. The article headline is less ****.


  • #3468
    PCeeeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭PCeeeee


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html

    You have to say the most charitable explanation is that the poster can't understand what is being said in the article.


  • #3469
    Ohmeha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,209 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html
    Misleading description. Some had their first dose and it was not specified in the article how long after they got their first dose before they passed away
    As in other homes, some of the residents who died are believed to have received their first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine and were due to receive their booster shot.


  • #3470
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,352 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I have a comfortable number of cases in mind (that I only consider viable if hospital stresses are under a certain level).

    We will (I hope) hit the number of cases before the hospital numbers I have in mind.

    For me it's cases under 300
    If the nursing homes and health care vaccinations are completed cases under 500.

    But only if
    ICU numbers are under 50
    Hospital numbers are under 400

    Bear in mind I would be calling for a slow enough reopening. Small steps.

    I would be of a similar mind to yourself, stable icu and hospital numbers would be more important than case numbers.


  • #3471
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,039 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Case numbers will slowly start to become irrelevant.
    The higher the case numbers (on a global scale), the higher the chance of a problematic mutation.


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  • #3472
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html

    To be precise
    some of the residents who died are believed to have received their first dose of a Covid-19 vaccine and were due to receive their booster shot.

    It remains elderly people are the most vulnerable with a high risk of mortality.

    It can take up to three weeks for the vaccine to fully work and is not at its maximum until a booster shot is given

    Rip to all those who died.


  • #3473
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,838 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    The majority of the country won't be vaccinated until after the summer

    Level 4 until after the summer, not seeing friends family, partners for the majority of the year once again isn't workable





    And meanwhile the pond rats will continue to pond while the rest of us will stay at home.
    What a fcukin time to be alive


  • #3474
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Horrific number of deaths. No way to sugar coat it.


  • #3475
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 6,775 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ficheall wrote: »
    The higher the case numbers (on a global scale), the higher the chance of a problematic mutation.

    ...which is why the scientific and logistical infrastructure must be put in place now - in anticipation of such an event.

    That means we can modify existing mRNA-based vaccines, reduce bureaucracy where needed, speed-up the approval process, and initiate mass production for all.

    That way, no matter how problematic a mutation may become, we have the artillery waiting and ready to immediately respond in a matter of weeks.


  • #3476
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 57,129 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Scoondal wrote: »
    Residents of nursing homes in Cork and Kerry have died after receiving receiving a covid vaccine.
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-40218434.html

    Mod:

    Threadbanned for completely disingenuous posting

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #3477
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    @draftdodger

    As I said in my first post this morning, I’m just having a feel sorry for myself day. I have them every now and then since 2017.

    I typed out a long post and then deleted it. Typing it out helped as I then come to the usual conclusion that I have and that is that there are people ALOT worse off than I am.

    Wish all here and their families well :) x

    Ah I totally understand where you are coming from. We all have our bad days I guess I'm just a bit fed up with all this holiday talk when there is a much bigger picture at play.

    Take care of yourself.


  • #3478
    crossman47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,606 ✭✭✭crossman47


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    All the days wasted in starting the vaccine rollout in nursing homes is a disgrace, 9 days from the arrival in Ireland the first person in a nursing home got vaccinated. I can see major legal action on the cards when the dust settles. They knew for months vaccines were coming.

    I don't keep fully up to speed on this but i recall they wanted the first doses to be given in hospital settings. Then, if there were reactions, there were medics on hand to deal with them. Some things have a rational explanation. Its easy to always look for a foul up. The nursing homes guy is trying to avoid the finger being pointed at their own inadequacies.


  • #3479
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,632 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    1,388 in hospital

    207 in ICU
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  • #3480
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    1,388 in hospital

    207 in ICU

    Close to a 700 drop in a week re hospitalizations ?


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  • #3481
    seefin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭seefin


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    And meanwhile the pond rats will continue to pond while the rest of us will stay at home.
    What a fcukin time to be alive

    I think id prefer this time to be alive than the famine years. Or be a jew in ww2. Or living in impoverished conditions 100s of years ago with no medicine etc . The future may well be horrendous with climate change. So in short, be grateful for what we have. We are not entitled to have a life that we choose, thats a first world recent concept. IMO
    That said, I'm not denying this is really tough.


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