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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #3122
    Varik
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,529 ✭✭✭✭Varik


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/irish-gang-forging-negative-covid-19-tests-for-european-travellers-europol-warns-1.4473032?
    The European police agency said members of the Rathkeale Rovers gang, a group of Irish criminals operating in several European countries, are using a mobile phone application to “manually falsify test results” which are then sold onto travellers for hundreds of euro each.

    Activities centred in the UK and Guards haven't detected any of the same here.

    If you're wondering about the name "Rathkeale Rovers" the answer is yes.


  • #3123
    ceadaoin.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Some benefits of vaccines in Israel may be seen already

    https://twitter.com/segal_eran/status/1356313705684869121

    Its weird that the same thing is happening in the US, even down to the percentages being nearly identical - 34% drop in new cases for example. Thats without giving out as many vaccines

    https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210128/us-covid-19-cases-fell-34-in-last-2-weeks


  • #3124
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    The_Brood wrote: »
    If we have accepted everything so far, we will accept everything else.

    I believe in doing my own risk assessment. Spent only 2 hrs with parents last Christmas sitting in cold conservatory with windows all open, didn’t go to restaurants etc. In effect we behaved like we had all through lockdown 2.
    When cases went Mad here After Christmas I went to the Canary Islands for 2 weeks, private villa & rental car. Bit of wfh, long walks, meals outside with masks worn at all times in public. Paid over a grand on tests etc but was happy to do it. So no, I don’t accept that living with Covid is no longer an option and we have to pause our lives until an unelected quango says otherwise.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #3125
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,392 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I believe in doing my own risk assessment. Spent only 2 hrs with parents last Christmas sitting in cold conservatory with windows all open, didn’t go to restaurants etc. In effect we behaved like we had all through lockdown 2.
    When cases went Mad here After Christmas I went to the Canary Islands for 2 weeks, private villa & rental car. Bit of wfh, long walks, meals outside with masks worn at all times in public. Paid over a grand on tests etc but was happy to do it. So no, I don’t accept that living with Covid is no longer an option and we have to pause our lives until an unelected quango says otherwise.

    How would you elect a pandemic advisory panel?


  • #3126
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I believe in doing my own risk assessment. Spent only 2 hrs with parents last Christmas sitting in cold conservatory with windows all open, didn’t go to restaurants etc. In effect we behaved like we had all through lockdown 2.
    When cases went Mad here After Christmas I went to the Canary Islands for 2 weeks, private villa & rental car. Bit of wfh, long walks, meals outside with masks worn at all times in public. Paid over a grand on tests etc but was happy to do it. So no, I don’t accept that living with Covid is no longer an option and we have to pause our lives until an unelected quango says otherwise.

    Any regrets it was only two weeks?


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  • #3127
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    It's great being in the EU and all the positives it brings but by christ they are making an absolute balls of the vaccine rollout.


  • #3128
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    How would you elect a pandemic advisory panel?

    I didn’t say NEPHT were not necessary- but they should be advising the government who then govern. Having two (sometimes contradictory) bodies Speaking to the public isn’t Always helpful and leads to mixed messages.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #3129
    degsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,763 ✭✭✭degsie


    The EU need to grow a pair and admit they are failing BIG TIME on the vaccine rollout. The UK are beating them all over the place and only allows them beat their chest and put two fingers up to Brussels. Pathetic.


  • #3130
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Any regrets it was only two weeks?

    Was going to extend but the mood music around travel changed while we were away. We decided it was unfair for us to be over there all stress free so we decided to come back and pull on the green sack cloth and ashes.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #3131
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    degsie wrote: »
    The EU need to grow a pair and admit they are failing BIG TIME on the vaccine rollout. The UK are beating them all over the place and only allows them beat their chest and put two fingers up to Brussels. Pathetic.
    Fair play to the Brits, they're no clowns for leaving.


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  • #3132
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    degsie wrote: »
    The EU need to grow a pair and admit they are failing BIG TIME on the vaccine rollout. The UK are beating them all over the place and only allows them beat their chest and put two fingers up to Brussels. Pathetic.

    https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

    Gave a look at the list.


  • #3133
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I didn’t say NEPHT were not necessary- but they should be advising the government who then govern. Having two (sometimes contradictory) bodies Speaking to the public isn’t Always helpful and leads to mixed messages.

    that's what they do. NPHET have zero power to enact restrictions. not sure how people still don't understand this.


  • #3134
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,314 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    seenitall wrote: »
    It’s Jupiter and Saturn you’re probably thinking of - they’ve both moved into Aqua around Christmas. Pluto still in Cappy for the next few years. Very slow fella.

    Ah.

    Now it makes more sense...


  • #3135
    wheresthebeef
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 887 ✭✭✭wheresthebeef


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    I didn’t say NEPHT were not necessary- but they should be advising the government who then govern. Having two (sometimes contradictory) bodies Speaking to the public isn’t Always helpful and leads to mixed messages.

    I think a lot of people are intelligent enough to be able to tell the difference between what comes out of NPHET and what comes out of government. Government advice is mostly crap from lobby groups - open this, open that, not fair blah blah.
    At least NPHET are working from some sort of scientific basis.


  • #3136
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,314 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Danno wrote: »
    Fair play to the Brits, they're no clowns for leaving.

    Long way to go yet.

    I wouldn't be awarding out prizes to anyone for first place right now.

    How quickly your start is isn't half as important is as how well you get the job done.

    Not saying the EU haven't made some mistakes and aren't capable of making more, but, we'll see how everyone matches up in three to four months time.


  • #3137
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Danno wrote: »
    Fair play to the Brits, they're no clowns for leaving.

    You can only say that when the pandemic is over and their deaths per head of population is compared. They may be jabbing away but they've a lot of ground to catch up. They're no role model.


  • #3138
    Malcomex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Malcomex


    Arghus wrote: »
    Long way to go yet.

    I wouldn't be awarding out prizes to anyone for first place right now.

    How quickly your start is isn't half as important is as how well you get the job done.

    Not saying the EU haven't made some mistakes and aren't capable of making more, but, we'll see how everyone matches up in three to four months time.

    The Tortoise and the Hare

    Its not over yet


  • #3139
    thelad95
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,812 ✭✭✭thelad95


    The government has bent over backwards and sideways for various industry lobby groups, especially last May when there was a significant decline in community transmission.

    This alone will mean there will be a relatively light level of restrictions in the summer. If all vulnerable groups have been vaccinated by then you can also forget about any meaningful level of public buy-in anymore.


  • #3140
    Malcomex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Malcomex


    Edwina Curry on claire byrne in reference to Uk

    "Several european countries have a higher death rate than we have per million including brussels"

    Is that a lie?


  • #3141
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Malcomex wrote: »
    Edwina Curry on claire byrne

    "Several european countries have a higher death rate than we have per million including brussels"

    Is that a lie?

    Belgium have the highest deaths per million outside of microstates the last time I checked, not sure if there are "several" though


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  • #3142
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,909 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    AdamD wrote: »
    I'm yet to hear a decent argument as to why we'd have more restrictions this summer than last.

    Maybe the confirmed more infectious, possibly deadlier BR117 that is dominant here and is potentially becoming dominant in more of Europe? Laxer restrictions worked to slow the spread last year. That won't be the case with BR117.

    We also have to try and ensure that the 501Y.V2, P.1 and CAL.20C strains don't spread and take hold. We can't take what worked last year for granted. Especially when not being extra careful for the coming months may damage the very realistic chance we have of ending the worst of this in the near future. It was one thing to 'learn to live' with the virus when there was no guarantee of an effective vaccination in the immediate future. It's not the case any more. We need to tamp it down hard while we vaccinate as many people as possible.


  • #3143
    Malcomex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Malcomex


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Belgium have the highest deaths per million outside of microstates the last time I checked, not sure if there are "several" though

    Uk toll obviously

    Didn't sound right


  • #3144
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    El Sueño wrote: »
    Belgium have the highest deaths per million outside of microstates the last time I checked, not sure if there are "several" though

    1. Belgium
    2. Slovenia
    3. UK

    UK twice the death rate of the Republic of Ireland


  • #3145
    Malcomex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Malcomex


    iguana wrote: »
    Maybe the confirmed more infectious, possibly deadlier BR117 that is dominant here and is potentially becoming dominant in more of Europe? Laxer restrictions worked to slow the spread last year. That won't be the case with BR117.

    We also have to try and ensure that the 501Y.V2, P.1 and CAL.20C strains don't spread and take hold. We can't take what worked last year for granted. Especially when not being extra careful for the coming months may damage the very realistic chance we have of ending the worst of this in the near future. It was one thing to 'learn to live' with the virus when there was no guarantee of an effective vaccination in the immediate future. It's not the case any more. We need to tamp it down hard while we vaccinate as many people as possible.

    They have to get the message across too that it's not over after vaccination

    They'll have their work cut out to impose any further restrictions if they slacken off

    ^^ from their perspective


  • #3146
    Deeper Blue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,500 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    Malcomex wrote: »
    Uk toll obviously

    Didn't sound right

    Absolutely, I'd be fairly certain ireland are nowhere near the top but with the UK I'm not so sure


  • #3147
    Pelvis Parsley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭Pelvis Parsley


    Deleted User wrote: »
    And whilst we're on the subject of journalists, am I the only one who withers in horror upon hearing the words, "My name is X, from TheJournal.ie".

    Journalists!? TheJournal.ie?

    You mean, they leave the office? And actually go outside doing journalist like things?

    I'm well surprised by that revelation.


  • #3148
    Malcomex
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭Malcomex


    Arduach wrote: »
    1. Belgium
    2. Slovenia
    3. UK

    UK twice the death rate of the Republic of Ireland

    Hmmm.... Several

    "More than 2 but not many"


  • #3149
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    UK 1565 deaths per 1M Pop
    ROI 667 deaths per 1M Pop

    So we're 43% of deaths per head of pop in comparison to the UK.


  • #3150
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,443 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    Malcomex wrote: »
    Edwina Curry on claire byrne in reference to Uk

    "Several european countries have a higher death rate than we have per million including brussels"

    Is that a lie?

    Edwina Curry is a joke! She’s a mouthpiece. Banging the drum for brexit and is totally blinded by it.
    Uk have a terrible record since last March, but can’t seem to admit it.
    We’ve been poor and the majority know we have been.


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  • #3151
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Arduach wrote: »
    UK 1565 deaths per 1M Pop
    ROI 667 deaths per 1M Pop

    So we're 43% of deaths per head of pop in comparison to the UK.

    Of the 47 'countries' listed in worldometers for Europe with Belgium number 1,we are 30th, so we are doing quite well in relation to many in regards to deaths.


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