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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭dh1985


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Noticed the exact same as myself, sold a few in last year and it will be the last time I ever sell in it.

    Sold a 360KG peach of Lim weanling bull last October only went €600....found out after a member of the mart staff had bought him...had him again in carrigallen mart 2 weeks later.....

    Jaysus didn't think it had gotten as bad as that. I still sell my bulls in it as I always got on well there and didn't want to tempt faith by changing. But the last couple of times I was there with heifer weanlings, and they would be fairly decent ones hitting for 400kg, I came home disappointed and felt there was nothing in the heifers ring only a few dealer lads looking for light heifers around the 650 to 700euro mark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    It's not a town I'd frequent but I'd know a fair few men that would be in it weekly. There's supposed to be a lot of weanlings that would usually be showed there going to Dowra and to a lesser extent Mohill in the last 12 month's. I regularly see a lot of staunch Carrigallen supporters showing cows in another Leitrim mart in the last year so there's bound to be a reduction in throughput.

    Heard some going to Roscommon mart too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭tanko


    Who owns Carrigallen mart?

    I've heard some talk that it might be sold, whether there's any truth to that i'm not sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭White Clover


    tanko wrote: »
    Who owns Carrigallen mart?

    I've heard some talk that it might be sold, whether there's any truth to that i'm not sure.

    I think it's one of the Golden Vale Marts.
    Inconsistency seems to be a theme of Golden Vale Marts. Kilmallock has a great reputation and is thriving.
    Abbeyfeale is a dead duck only for calf sales in the spring time. Not sure on Tullamore and the consensus from folk on this thread is that Carrigallen has slipped a lot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Most marts live and die on the Manager in charge. Needs to run a tight ship and now allow any cliques to grow.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,307 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    The marts that are privately owned seem to be doing well, huge sale of cows Friday night and very big today for the heifer sale today finishing up at 8.15 in Carnew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,316 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    Sold some fr cull cows during the week. average 1.50/kg price was OK but I was very pleased with their weights much higher than I expected. Early in the sale maybe helped.

    Also sold a 2015 red lm cow. I bought her off a fellow I brought some heifer weanlings off. She had a difficult calving and didn't go back in calf.
    Thought I might be able to sort her for breeding but scanner man said it was doubtful.

    645 kgs and made 1540.

    Have some bought in lm heifer weanlings booked in for this week.

    I know some posters on here are critical of the present set up but I think it's the best thing that happened in a long time.

    Some marts however need to up the ante a bit or they will go by the way side.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Water John wrote: »
    Most marts live and die on the Manager in charge. Needs to run a tight ship and now allow any cliques to grow.
    The online bidding has prevented a lot of "cliques" stopping/claiming lot numbers amongst themselves.

    OH was collecting some yearling heifers that he bought at a mart and met a guy who would be known to be amongst that group. He was like a bull cause the online bidding had disrupted their cosy arrangement and they either had to pay more for the cattle or go home empty handed. It's better for the seller as they are getting a higher price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,651 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    The marts that are privately owned seem to be doing well, huge sale of cows Friday night and very big today for the heifer sale today finishing up at 8.15 in Carnew.
    As I posted previously the mart in Gortatlea is an eye opener. I know people on here were saying that the facilities are not great with only the one ring operating but it's some mart to watch with the numbers and speed that go through the ring. It must be doing something right since farmers are willing to bring their cattle to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Dozer1


    On upping their game it looks like the new man in castleisland is turning numbers again. It would be good to see as it offers greater choice to farmers in the area


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,866 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Dozer1 wrote: »
    On upping their game it looks like the new man in castleisland is turning numbers again. It would be good to see as it offers greater choice to farmers in the area

    I heard that too, not too long ago it was a power house mart that left the others trailing.
    With the last few years, cattle were passing Abbeyfeale and Castleisland on the way to Gortatlea and passing Kanturk and Castleisland coming from the east.
    The new man would have strong historical connections to Castleisland so it wouldn't surprise me if the mart there was on the way up.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Base price wrote: »
    As I posted previously the mart in Gortatlea is an eye opener. I know people on here were saying that the facilities are not great with only the one ring operating but it's some mart to watch with the numbers and speed that go through the ring. It must be doing something right since farmers are willing to bring their cattle to it.

    Facilities are only ever going to be a secondary consideration after trade or lack of it in a mart. It's matter less what facilities a mart has if it hasn't a sufficient number of buyers and sellers. Take Mohill for example, Aurivo spent a vast amount of money on the mart and it's surroundings and yet it done next to no business for large parts of the year until quite recently. A few miles further down the road in Dowra where it was a battle against nature to ever build or operate a mart and with zero chance of expansion and it's turning over large numbers every week of the year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    Facilities are only ever going to be a secondary consideration after trade or lack of it in a mart. It's matter less what facilities a mart has if it hasn't a sufficient number of buyers and sellers. Take Mohill for example, Aurivo spent a vast amount of money on the mart and it's surroundings and yet it done next to no business for large parts of the year until quite recently. A few miles further down the road in Dowra where it was a battle against nature to ever build or operate a mart and with zero chance of expansion and it's turning over large numbers every week of the year.


    Yes Dowra seems to be booming in the last while, seen on their FB page they had 820 cattle for sale yesterday.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    josephsoap wrote: »
    Yes Dowra seems to be booming in the last while, seen on their FB page they had 820 cattle for sale yesterday.

    I wouldn't always believe there quoted figures off Facebook but they still handle serious number's between cattle and sheep. Anyone that's been to it will know they haven't much to work with in facilities, parking ect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 110 ✭✭Murang


    Base price wrote: »
    As I posted previously the mart in Gortatlea is an eye opener. I know people on here were saying that the facilities are not great with only the one ring operating but it's some mart to watch with the numbers and speed that go through the ring. It must be doing something right since farmers are willing to bring their cattle to it.

    Everything you said is correct the facilities are poor one ring but still getting huge numbers skibereen had top of the range facilities but Gortalee has wiped them out no numbers going there the difference is the manager seen it myself in skib buyers having rows with each other over each lot telling each other that this lot is mine in Gortalee buyers standing around ring no messing or shouting over who has what lot just bidding


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    I wouldn't always believe there quoted figures off Facebook but they still handle serious number's between cattle and sheep. Anyone that's been to it will know they haven't much to work with in facilities, parking ect.

    If they could do something about the loading especially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,284 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    Base price wrote: »
    The online bidding has prevented a lot of "cliques" stopping/claiming lot numbers amongst themselves.

    OH was collecting some yearling heifers that he bought at a mart and met a guy who would be known to be amongst that group. He was like a bull cause the online bidding had disrupted their cosy arrangement and they either had to pay more for the cattle or go home empty handed. It's better for the seller as they are getting a higher price.

    It also stops farmer buyers being bulked on price. The ''cliques'' cannot bull buyers on price as they do not know the buyers and cannot be sure who is bidding. If you were standing up in a mart and were a stranger in the mart you could expect to be bulled by the ringside. Unless you were willing to come regularly and they found they could not fazzle you then they would half let you alone but you would still pay for cattle. As well money that was going to dealers before for buying cattle for people is now going directly to sellers as lads can buy the cattle themselves

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    If they could do something about the loading especially

    I don't see what could be done with the existing setup. Unless they sacrificed the bit of parking on the mart side of the road and changed the slope to have the intake bay's parallel as opposed to perpendicular to the road. It's some spot of a busy day, luckily there isn't much else happening in the locality as traffic grinds to a halt. The last machinery auction they had in killargue was some mess as regards parking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    I don't see what could be done with the existing setup. Unless they sacrificed the bit of parking on the mart side of the road and changed the slope to have the intake bay's parallel as opposed to perpendicular to the road. It's some spot of a busy day, luckily there isn't much else happening in the locality as traffic grinds to a halt. The last machinery auction they had in killargue was some mess as regards parking.

    Maybe they should get Temple Grandin in to do a flow for the humans as well as the animals.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Water John wrote: »
    Maybe they should get Temple Grandin in to do a flow for the humans as well as the animals.

    I couldn't see that going down to well with management, he'd take a fair pull out of one of those fags when she'd start outlining her plans.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭josephsoap


    I couldn't see that going down to well with management, he'd take a fair pull out of one of those fags when she'd start outlining her plans.


    https://youtu.be/fozZLuLMCHM

    Came across a video here of Dowra mart filmed in the 80’s ....it doesn’t seem to have changed at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭Jb1989


    josephsoap wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/fozZLuLMCHM

    Came across a video here of Dowra mart filmed in the 80’s ....it doesn’t seem to have changed at all

    One trendy man in a pair of Jeans at the beginning anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    I don't see what could be done with the existing setup. Unless they sacrificed the bit of parking on the mart side of the road and changed the slope to have the intake bay's parallel as opposed to perpendicular to the road. It's some spot of a busy day, luckily there isn't much else happening in the locality as traffic grinds to a halt. The last machinery auction they had in killargue was some mess as regards parking.
    Pity there couldn’t be a another access to bring in by side of office
    Is there an opportunity to use the sheep pens for loading lorries?
    Wouldn’t like to be a stranger in a hurry on a Saturday alright


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    Pity there couldn’t be a another access to bring in by side of office
    Is there an opportunity to use the sheep pens for loading lorries?
    Wouldn’t like to be a stranger in a hurry on a Saturday alright

    I suggested changing the intake to run perpendicular to the road as it would allow for a longer and less steep ramp compared to the current setup. This would mean loosing the parking along the side of the mart which wouldn't be as much of an issue if they weren't already so short of parking.

    Seeing as they've moved to selling sheep on a Friday all year round as opposed to just the peak months then maybe using the sheep pens for an intake could be a solution. It was some spot when both yards were full of stock when everything was sold on Saturdays.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    I suggested changing the intake to run perpendicular to the road as it would allow for a longer and less steep ramp compared to the current setup. This would mean loosing the parking along the side of the mart which wouldn't be as much of an issue if they weren't already so short of parking.

    Don’t know enough about the mart
    Is there an option to move some parking to the main st with a walk to the mart?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,196 ✭✭✭ruwithme


    Is it here to stay then long after covid the online sales in marts??


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 1,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭Albert Johnson


    ruwithme wrote: »
    Is it here to stay then long after covid the online sales in marts??

    The online option will definitely be here to stay imo, it opens up possibilities that didn't exist beforehand and suits certain people more than others. However I'd much rather see ringside bidding with an online element as opposed to 100% online but that's my own preference and no doubt there's other's who will disagree. I would be very slow to buy stock solely from the information gained from watching the online platform but again that's my own opinion, I'd rather see stock in the flesh first and after that there's little difference in bidding off the phone or in real life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,839 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Post Covid it would be a handy option to see penned stock and look at some one might be interested in. Then go away and bid online later. Nice too for sellers, just drop in stock and see sale on line. You verify, sale agreed or not, by phone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,657 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Don't see it taking off. Purchasers cannot judge stock crammed into pens. All sold subject....waiting for marts to get hold of sellers to see if they will accept....travelling a distance and not knowing if you have a load bought or having to come back again for an extra one or go home home with one less.. then internet dependant.

    It might suit some who will buy on the blind or who are happy to judge them wedged in the pen....but personally the sooner it gets back to normal the better. Plus sitting in a jeep / lorry for 3 or 4 hours hoping the battery lasts in you phone is not exactly much of an atmosphere / social aspect of life that many would warm too IMO


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭Figerty


    Robson99 wrote: »
    Don't see it taking off. Purchasers cannot judge stock crammed into pens. All sold subject....waiting for marts to get hold of sellers to see if they will accept....travelling a distance and not knowing if you have a load bought or having to come back again for an extra one or go home home with one less.. then internet dependant.

    It might suit some who will buy on the blind or who are happy to judge them wedged in the pen....but personally the sooner it gets back to normal the better. Plus sitting in a jeep / lorry for 3 or 4 hours hoping the battery lasts in you phone is not exactly much of an atmosphere / social aspect of life that many would warm too IMO

    Theres no going back. It will be a combination from now on. Anyone can see both systems can work at the same time. Most farmers are part time, so online sales or purchasing will suit. The time has come also to stop the messing around the ring also.


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