Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Paddyman38 · 30-01-2021 11:17PM

Like some people here im getting a bit sick of these restrictions. I love to keep fit and eat fairly healthy but with the 5km restrictions its a problem, if i want to go for a good run or cycle or a hike or something to get a good workout i have to break the 5 km rule. I would of taught the best way to fight this virus, Was to be as healthy and as fit as possible. I listen to Nphet, HSE, WHO, and i taught they are meant to be looking after our Health, but then i noticed why am i even listening to them they can't even look after there own Health. I saw the Ryan lad who is one of the top guys in the World health Organisation and he definately doesnt look to healthy, definately over weight maybe he should practice what he preaches. Dr Holohan doesnt look fit to me, but he is happy to lock us away he doesnt seem to care about our health he cant even look after his own. What about the politicans , definality not many fit and healthy in any of the parties and there making all the decisions on whats best for peoples health ,I know this virus kills people, but to me if you want to lock yourself away that should be your choice, you probably will get more unhealthy and put more presure On health system than i ever will, for me life is for living, not for locking yourself away. Why dont they let us be fit and healthy and have the best chance of fighting this virus On our terms than surrendering to the virus.

Graham · 30-01-2021 11:25PM

Paddyman38 wrote: »

I love to keep fit and eat fairly healthy but with the 5km restrictions its a problem, if i want to go for a good run or cycle or a hike or something to get a good workout

I'm not seeing the issue, you can cycle or run as much as you like as long as within 5km of your home.

Gael23 · 30-01-2021 11:25PM

Is Luke O Neills opinion one to be twken seriously?

Silentcorner · 30-01-2021 11:37PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Is Luke O Neills opinion one to be twken seriously?

Have you ever seen his opinion rigorously questioned, if not, you should dismiss him as part of the media fear infrastructure...you should do the same with any opinion that is allowed to go unchallenged...we have no media balance, it has taken a toll on plenty of posters on here.

Some would probably consider him part of the Establishment Science Community...**sniggers**... I'm sure he was the fella I saw predicting mass graves and freezer trucks full of bodies last Sept on TV3.

30-01-2021 11:40PM

Paddyman38 wrote: »

Like some people here im getting a bit sick of these restrictions. I love to keep fit and eat fairly healthy but with the 5km restrictions its a problem, if i want to go for a good run or cycle or a hike or something to get a good workout i have to break the 5 km rule. I would of taught the best way to fight this virus, Was to be as healthy and as fit as possible. I listen to Nphet, HSE, WHO, and i taught they are meant to be looking after our Health, but then i noticed why am i even listening to them they can't even look after there own Health. I saw the Ryan lad who is one of the top guys in the World health Organisation and he definately doesnt look to healthy, definately over weight maybe he should practice what he preaches. Dr Holohan doesnt look fit to me, but he is happy to lock us away he doesnt seem to care about our health he cant even look after his own. What about the politicans , definality not many fit and healthy in any of the parties and there making all the decisions on whats best for peoples health ,I know this virus kills people, but to me if you want to lock yourself away that should be your choice, you probably will get more unhealthy and put more presure On health system than i ever will, for me life is for living, not for locking yourself away. Why dont they let us be fit and healthy and have the best chance of fighting this virus On our terms than surrendering to the virus.

Comedy gold.

gmisk · 30-01-2021 11:41PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Is Luke O Neills opinion one to be twken seriously?

On what?
He is a professor of biochemistry in the school of biochemistry and immunology at Trinity.
He is well regarded and pretty decorated in areas like the immune system, so if it's related? I would probably say yes

30-01-2021 11:42PM

Silentcorner wrote: »

Have you ever seen his opinion rigorously questioned, if not, you should dismiss him as part of the media fear infrastructure...you should do the same with any opinion that is allowed to go unchallenged...we have no media balance, it has taken a toll on plenty of posters on here.

Some would probably consider him part of the Establishment Science Community...**sniggers**... I'm sure he was the fella I saw predicting mass graves and freezer trucks full of bodies last Sept on TV3.

Correct me if I am wrong in interpreting what you are saying? If there is no challenge to a view being pressed with no viable opposing view, you should dismiss the view?

Paddyman38 · 30-01-2021 11:43PM

Well i would prefer not to be locked down to 5 k there are only so many 5k loops you can do, i prefer to be free not locked up like an animal in the Zoo. A thing called freedom of choice used to exit, sadly no more

gmisk · 30-01-2021 11:45PM

Paddyman38 wrote: »

Like some people here im getting a bit sick of these restrictions. I love to keep fit and eat fairly healthy but with the 5km restrictions its a problem, if i want to go for a good run or cycle or a hike or something to get a good workout i have to break the 5 km rule. I would of taught the best way to fight this virus, Was to be as healthy and as fit as possible. I listen to Nphet, HSE, WHO, and i taught they are meant to be looking after our Health, but then i noticed why am i even listening to them they can't even look after there own Health. I saw the Ryan lad who is one of the top guys in the World health Organisation and he definately doesnt look to healthy, definately over weight maybe he should practice what he preaches. Dr Holohan doesnt look fit to me, but he is happy to lock us away he doesnt seem to care about our health he cant even look after his own. What about the politicans , definality not many fit and healthy in any of the parties and there making all the decisions on whats best for peoples health ,I know this virus kills people, but to me if you want to lock yourself away that should be your choice, you probably will get more unhealthy and put more presure On health system than i ever will, for me life is for living, not for locking yourself away. Why dont they let us be fit and healthy and have the best chance of fighting this virus On our terms than surrendering to the virus.

You would be happier taking advice from Holohan or Ryan if they had six packs?
I would be more interested in their expertise tbh
How they look is not really relevant....

As for the 5km thing, it should be plenty of room. I don't think someone will be out with a ruler, if you want to keep fit nothing is stopping you let's be honest.

Mr. Karate · 30-01-2021 11:45PM

gmisk wrote: »

On what?
He is a professor of biochemistry in the school of biochemistry and immunology at Trinity.
He is well regarded and pretty decorated in areas like the immune system, so if it's related? I would probably say yes

He claims he would love a debate about the masks, lockdowns, etc but is always conveniently "too busy" to actually debate.

This should show you how deadly this virus really is. Too many people using it to grand stand and make celebrities out of themselves.

If this virus was really that deadly there none of this "look at me." going on.

FintanMcluskey · 30-01-2021 11:47PM

Paddyman38 wrote: »

Like some people here im getting a bit sick of these restrictions. I love to keep fit and eat fairly healthy but with the 5km restrictions its a problem, if i want to go for a good run or cycle or a hike or something to get a good workout i have to break the 5 km rule. I would of taught the best way to fight this virus, Was to be as healthy and as fit as possible. I listen to Nphet, HSE, WHO, and i taught they are meant to be looking after our Health, but then i noticed why am i even listening to them they can't even look after there own Health. I saw the Ryan lad who is one of the top guys in the World health Organisation and he definately doesnt look to healthy, definately over weight maybe he should practice what he preaches. Dr Holohan doesnt look fit to me, but he is happy to lock us away he doesnt seem to care about our health he cant even look after his own. What about the politicans , definality not many fit and healthy in any of the parties and there making all the decisions on whats best for peoples health ,I know this virus kills people, but to me if you want to lock yourself away that should be your choice, you probably will get more unhealthy and put more presure On health system than i ever will, for me life is for living, not for locking yourself away. Why dont they let us be fit and healthy and have the best chance of fighting this virus On our terms than surrendering to the virus.

If one thing comes out of this crisis of management, it’s that obesity must be tackled with the upmost urgency.

Old age and obesity are the main underlying conditions for severe Covid, it’s time to get serious.

Kunta Kinte · 30-01-2021 11:48PM

Lundstram wrote: »

Nope. The chap is out of work. No harm throwing him a few extra euro.

He done a fine job too, his Mammy even made me a cuppa.

So where are the pics then? You did promise some and we have been waiting for them for hours now. Assuming your story is true of course.

normanoffside · 30-01-2021 11:49PM

Why is Tony leaking his private conversations to the press (again?)

Doesn't make sense for it to be anyone else

https://twitter.com/AlanEnglish9/status/1355645313680289792

gmisk · 30-01-2021 11:50PM

Mr. Karate wrote: »

He claims he would love a debate about the masks, lockdowns, etc but is always conveniently "too busy" to actually debate.

This should show you how deadly this virus really is. Too many people using it to grand stand and make celebrities out of themselves.

If this virus was really that deadly there none of this "look at me." going on.

No clue about the first paragraph.

I would rather look at the figures thanks. I know healthy people in their 40s who have been at deaths door. I don't fancy getting it personally but you work away.

No clue what your point is here either.

Silentcorner · 30-01-2021 11:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Correct me if I am wrong in interpreting what you are saying? If there is no challenge to a view being pressed with no viable opposing view, you should dismiss the view?

Well, that particular headbanger was predicting Mass Graves and Freezer Trucks full of bodies back in Sept and wasn't questioned or pressed or challenged....so ya, dismiss that hyperbole and do it fast...hysteria is all over our media...he should have been laughed out of the studio for predicting that lunacy but he is still wheeled out all the time I gather.

In an hysterical media cycle, the likes of which we have never seen, you need to focus on what you are not being told and filter as much as you can.

And didn't you just dismiss the view of a debating society just a few posts ago? You know, a society that actually provides a balanced debate!

30-01-2021 11:54PM

There seems to be some view, in general and not just surrounding Covid, that cranks expressing unfounded views based on misrepresentation or outright lies should be given the same platform to air their views as experts in their field

Mr. Karate · 31-01-2021 12:01AM

Silentcorner wrote: »

We haven't seen the like since we were an island full of pious holy joe's!!!!

God's word is all that matters!

Except God in this case is Leo, Michael and Tony. Its clear from some poster its a sin to dare question their decisions.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 12:02AM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

Does anyone think nghtclubs will be opening any time soon here though? No, they won't. They'd be the last place that would open again I'd have thought.

Nightclubs will likely be 2-3 years away, similar to fans in stadiums.

I just hope schools reopen in September

We need educated people to pay this bill

Lundstram · 31-01-2021 12:03AM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

So where are the pics then? You did promise some and we have been waiting for them for hours now. Assuming your story is true of course.

To be quite honest with you, Kunta, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. Posting an image of my head won't change that. Sure I could Google an image of that and post if I wanted to.

If you don't believe this sort of stuff is happening then you're very naive.

Graham · 31-01-2021 12:05AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Nightclubs will likely be 2-3 years away, similar to fans in stadiums.

Where did you get this little nugget from?

Kunta Kinte · 31-01-2021 12:07AM

Lundstram wrote: »

To be quite honest with you, Kunta, I couldn't care less if you believe me or not. Posting an image of my head won't change that. Sure I could Google an image of that and post if I wanted to.

If you don't believe this sort of stuff is happening then you're very naive.

So no evidence then? OK no surprise there.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 12:07AM

Graham wrote: »

Where did you get this little nugget from?

Well I’m hopeful it will be that quick.

I do realise it won’t sit well with some to want normality to return, but I think it’s going to return regardless

31-01-2021 12:08AM

I'm paraphrasing here, but the argument seems to be open everything up in the interests of the greater economy. The most likely to die are in the 65+ age bracket and they're non-contributors anyway so no great loss.

Maybe just let them die at home and then the health service won't be over run.

Nice.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 12:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm paraphrasing here, but the argument seems to be open everything up in the interests of the greater economy. The most likely to die are in the 65+ age bracket and they're non-contributors anyway so no great loss.

Maybe just let them die at home and then the health service won't be over run.

Nice.

No that’s total bolix.

The argument is to weather the fact Ireland was in lockdown for almost twice as long as other European countries last year was actually cost effective?

And that we are now on track to follow last years pattern, the question is even more relevant.

But it doesn’t sound like you have any interest in contributing to the discussion as you have already made up claims

Lundstram · 31-01-2021 12:12AM

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm paraphrasing here, but the argument seems to be open everything up in the interests of the greater economy. The most likely to die are in the 65+ age bracket and they're non-contributors anyway so no great loss.

Maybe just let them die at home and then the health service won't be over run.

Nice.

You're not paraphrasing, you're downright lying.

Nobody said open it all up and let it rip.

The damage to the economy was mostly done last summer when we had fcuk all cases and barely any deaths yet we remained the most restricted nation in the EU.

FintanMcluskey · 31-01-2021 12:19AM

JRant wrote: »

We'll be lucky to get creche's open this side of May. Nightclubs are a pipedream.

Yep.

It will follow last years path as Leo admitted this week.

Schools back in September etc.

We will have to go abroad for concerts and a semblance of a social life for the next few years

Lundstram · 31-01-2021 12:20AM

gmisk wrote: »

Well yourself and "other posters" are wrong.

Discussion is great if it has some actual basis, knowledge, facts and expertise in the area.

No one alive has experience of a pandemic. No one.

"infectious disease expert" Sam McConkey predicted a few hundred thousand deaths on this island, we just passed 3k. To this day his mug is all over my TV spouting nonsense.

ypres5 · 31-01-2021 12:22AM

JRant wrote: »

Good article by Fergal Bowers today

https://www.rte.ie/news/analysis-and-comment/2021/0129/1193911-covid19-fergal-bowers-analysis/

Calls out a couple of keys points.
1: you can't have an indefinite lockdown with no end date in sight
2: It seems that nobody is really responsible for the vaccine rollout, which is a receipe for disaster

It's a fairly balanced piece, which in fairness to Bowers he is one of the more sensible people reporting on this.

in regards to the vaccine rollout that's exactly how the government and hse want it to be. the finger gets pointed at donnelly and he'll point to reid and the hse who points to holohan and nphet who points somewhere else and the beat goes on

Windmill100000 · 31-01-2021 12:23AM

Lundstram wrote: »

No one alive has experience of a pandemic. No one.

Precisely why last year massive precautions were taken.

Graham · 31-01-2021 12:23AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Well I’m hopeful it will be that quick.

I do realise it won’t sit well with some to want normality to return, but I think it’s going to return regardless

Who are we pretending doesn't want normality to return?

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