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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • #1412
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,725 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    Democrat's sure love erections :pac:




    Inciting Insurrection - getting stuck on Inciting an insurrection - ie. inciting an urrection :pac: 'Inciting an insurrection' is too much for the tongue to handle :D


  • #1413
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,394 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    Overheal wrote: »
    Inciting Insurrection - getting stuck on Inciting an insurrection - ie. inciting an urrection :pac: 'Inciting an insurrection' is too much for the tongue to handle :D

    Yeeuw.


  • #1414
    Carfacemandog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Carfacemandog wrote: »
    So what's the list now for Greene now?

    - QAnon and Pizzagate true believer.
    - Las Vegas shooting was a false flag operation.
    - 2017 White Supremacist Unite the Right rally was an "inside job".
    - Seth Rich was murdered by MS13 on behalf of Obama.
    - Claims no video evidence of plane hitting the pentagon on 9/11 exists, despite its existence.
    - Anti masker getting into screaming matches over not wearing a mask into Congress
    - Harrassing school shooting survivors as "actors" in false flag operations.
    - "White genocide" believer.
    - Has endorsed murdering democrat politicians for a few years now.
    - Big stop the steal/storm the Capitol supporter.
    - Wildfires are caused by secret Jewish space lasers.

    How many of the 261 Republicans in Congress have denounced her? Surely at least a few, right?
    It seems nobody has been able to identify Republicans denouncing her yet, though I might have just found out why.

    The Republican Party have appointed Marjorie Taylor Greene - Sandy Hook and Stoneman Douglas school shooting "false flag/actors" conspiracy theorist, who has harassed the survivors of these school shootings, who has supported the murder of Democrat politicians and who has claimed that wildfires are Jewish space laser attacks - to the House Committee for Education and Labor.

    That's a pretty clear endorsement of her from the same party ousting and censuring those who have criticised the terror attack of January 6th on the US government.


  • #1415
    nolivesmatter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 914 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    Democrat's sure love erections :pac:




    lol at the first guys panic face when he hears himself.


  • #1416
    Quantum Baloney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Quantum Baloney


    These people genuinely believe that the election was won through fraud. They went to protest what they perceive to be a monumental wrongdoing, but by anyone's count it was only a very small minority that started to cause trouble. When you have a bunch of people with so much pent up anger and frustration like that you can easily imagine how in the spur of the moment they might have thought it was acceptable to gain entry to the Capitol Building. I wonder whether a full investigation of some of the more rowdy individuals would even reveal another motivation. Trump is obviously responsible for what happened to a large degree but I don't think anyone in the administration had serious designs at taking over the government of the country through force.

    Anyway, the Democrats have gotten enormous political capital out of this, the militarized inauguration, the impeachment, but really, its obvious to anyone that isn't a cheerleader for the Democrat that there was no attempted coup.


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  • #1417
    Jimbob1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Fwiw I think its disgraceful and Biden/Harris should be rolling back on this, they should also move the US embassy back from Jerusalem.

    American Jews tend to vote Democrat.

    I hope Biden can reinvigorate the "Two State" approach, which has been stalled for 20 years.

    It's the only solution.


  • #1418
    salmocab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,650 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    These people genuinely believe that the election was won through fraud. They went to protest what they perceive to be a monumental wrongdoing, but by anyone's count it was only a very small minority that started to cause trouble. When you have a bunch of people with so much pent up anger and frustration like that you can easily imagine how in the spur of the moment they might have thought it was acceptable to gain entry to the Capitol Building. I wonder whether a full investigation of some of the more rowdy individuals would even reveal another motivation. Trump is obviously responsible for what happened to a large degree but I don't think anyone in the administration had serious designs at taking over the government of the country through force.

    Anyway, the Democrats have gotten enormous political capital out of this, the militarized inauguration, the impeachment, but really, its obvious to anyone that isn't a cheerleader for the Democrat that there was no attempted coup.

    But it was an attempted coup, they went in there thinking they could change what was happening with the election. Just because they had zero chance of doing it or that they had no real idea of how it would happen or indeed that they were mostly morons doesn’t mean they weren’t attempting it.


  • #1419
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    Lifted from another site
    There was an angry group gathering outside of the American building;

    Members of the group appeared fired-up and seething with contempt and pure hatred;

    Some wore clothing with distinct and clear markings;

    Most did not cover their faces;

    Some were carrying oversized flags that depicted their ideology;

    Some had firearms, many did not;

    They chanted in unison with fists raised in the air;

    They stormed the American facility with ease;

    At first, they strolled around the compound, seemingly surprised that they made it into this sacred place, and then they appeared nonchalant and arrogant;

    We saw the attackers destroying everything in sight with abandon;

    Vigorously smashing windows;

    Forcefully kicking in doors;

    Ravaging offices and rooms; and

    Some of the attackers stole items from the buildings, including laptops belonging to American officials, highly sensitive material, and souvenirs of their attack.

    That's a description on what is visible from the videos on Benghazi which Republicans claimed at the time one of the worst ever attacks on America and spent 3 years and 10 investigations looking into it.


  • #1420
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Lifted from another site



    That's a description on what is visible from the videos on Benghazi which Republicans claimed at the time one of the worst ever attacks on America and spent 3 years and 10 investigations looking into it.

    And less people died in Benghazi than at the storming of the capitol.


  • #1421
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    And less people died in Benghazi than at the storming of the capitol.


    And more people died during Blm protests than storming of Capitol Hill and more federal Buildings destroyed more police officers killed and more innocent people and more business's destroyed.

    But the media doesn't care about those people.


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  • #1422
    Quantum Baloney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Quantum Baloney


    salmocab wrote: »
    But it was an attempted coup, they went in there thinking they could change what was happening with the election. Just because they had zero chance of doing it or that they had no real idea of how it would happen or indeed that they were mostly morons doesn’t mean they weren’t attempting it.

    I think that at base level, for me to agree that this was a serious attempt at a coup, rather than just a protest that became messy, I would expect to see a lot more guns involved. Americans love their guns but I don't think that anyone who stormed the Capitol Building was seen with one. If they are armed then the whole picture is different and then you have your coup for sure. But they weren't.


  • #1423
    Leroy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,048 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    I think that at base level, for me to agree that this was a serious attempt at a coup, rather than just a protest that became messy, I would expect to see a lot more guns involved. Americans love their guns but I don't think that anyone who stormed the Capitol Building was seen with one. If they are armed then the whole picture is different and then you have your coup for sure. But they weren't.

    What do you think the purpose of them being there was?

    It was held on the 6thm the exact day of the vote. They had Senators in the building voting against the votes from states?

    Do you really think they were there just to march a bit and then go home and accept Biden as the POTUS?

    Trump certainly was pushing the line that Biden was illegitimate and that he should remain as POTUS.

    I have yet to hear a reason, apart from looking to subvert the vote, as to why always those people went there.


  • #1424
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,855 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    And more people died during Blm protests than storming of Capitol Hill and more federal Buildings destroyed more police officers killed and more innocent people and more business's destroyed.

    But the media doesn't care about those people.

    Who says they don't care? The BLM riots were all over the major news networks every night.


  • #1425
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,030 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    I think that at base level, for me to agree that this was a serious attempt at a coup, rather than just a protest that became messy, I would expect to see a lot more guns involved. Americans love their guns but I don't think that anyone who stormed the Capitol Building was seen with one. If they are armed then the whole picture is different and then you have your coup for sure. But they weren't.
    • In the days leading up to the 6th, they announced on social media that they were taking part in a revolution.
    • They went to the capitol at the request and instruction of someone who had lost the most recent election.
    • They went there at the time when the results of that election were being formally accepted.
    • They went there with the purpose of inhibiting this vote acceptance process.
    • They set up a gallows outside the Capitol.
    • They used force to break in to the Capitol.
    • They violently attacked police defending the Capitol.
    • They marched through the halls chanting that they wanted to hang the person formally accepting the election results.

    It was an attempted coup. But thankfully, like everything else Trump has been involved in, it was a poor attempt and ultimately failed.


  • #1426
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    And more people died during Blm protests than storming of Capitol Hill and more federal Buildings destroyed more police officers killed and more innocent people and more business's destroyed.

    But the media doesn't care about those people.

    Yes, the media doesn't care about fabricated people you made up in your head as no police officers were killed.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/07/facebook-posts/no-proof-black-lives-matter-killed-36-people-injur/

    And yes, more people died during a protest that lasted many months and took place across the entire country than one that lasted less than a day in one location.


  • #1427
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »
    Who says they don't care? The BLM riots were all over the major news networks every night.

    They were on the news alright but they werenr being criticised.

    Its also funny how the only people who were guarding and protecting local businesses during the riots were trump supporters the so called bad guys.


  • #1428
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, the media doesn't care about fabricated people you made up in your head as no police officers were killed.

    https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/07/facebook-posts/no-proof-black-lives-matter-killed-36-people-injur/

    And yes, more people died during a protest that lasted many months and took place across the entire country than one that lasted less than a day in one location.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town-police-chief-killed-officers-cities-wounded/story?id=71017820


  • #1429
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Its also funny how the only people who were guarding and protecting local businesses during the riots were trump supporters the so called bad guys.

    I look forward to reading your sources for that.


  • #1430
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    https://abcnews.go.com/US/small-town-police-chief-killed-officers-cities-wounded/story?id=71017820

    Yes, this retired police officer is mentioned in my link.

    Do you have a link to these police officers you are talking about?


  • #1431
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, this retired police officer is mentioned in my link.

    Do you have a link to these police officers you are talking about?

    He was not retired he was a police chief

    David Dorn, 77, was discovered on the sidewalk in front of Lee's Pawn & Jewelry in St. Louis around 2:30 a.m., said Police Commissioner John Hayden. He said Dorn, who retired from the St. Louis Police Department in 2007 and had been serving as police chief of Moline Acres, Missouri, since 2008, was killed when he apparently tried to stop the looting of the shop.


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  • #1432
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    He was not retired he was a police chief

    David Dorn, 77, was discovered on the sidewalk in front of Lee's Pawn & Jewelry in St. Louis around 2:30 a.m., said Police Commissioner John Hayden. He said Dorn, who retired from the St. Louis Police Department in 2007 and had been serving as police chief of Moline Acres, Missouri, since 2008, was killed when he apparently tried to stop the looting of the shop.

    What is the second word in the description of the article you linked to?

    Edit: Ah, you don't know the difference between a police officer and police chief, never mind.

    You say more police officers died because of the BLM protests. Even if I let you count him, you still need more. Who are the others officers that died then?


  • #1433
    rossie1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,433 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    The media you say..



  • #1434
    Quantum Baloney
    Closed Accounts Posts: 190 ✭✭Quantum Baloney


    I heard Glenn Greenwald mention that Biden has assembled quite a collection of Iraq-invasion era neo-cons around him in his cabinet. Who are the big names he is referring to?


  • #1435
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Bernie Sanders running wild on Twitter warning how Democrats are failing flat on their asses already, and what is the only Bernie story you hear on the news? "Ah isn't the old man with the silly mittens cute?"

    The dream really. Steal Bernie's supporters to elect a corporatist shill, then ignore that in terms of cutting the gap between the rich and the poor and standing up to big corporations and banks, Biden is doing not one bit better than Trump.


  • #1436
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Bernie Sanders running wild on Twitter warning how Democrats are failing flat on their asses already, and what is the only Bernie story you hear on the news? "Ah isn't the old man with the silly mittens cute?"

    The dream really. Steal Bernie's supporters to elect a corporatist shill, then ignore that in terms of cutting the gap between the rich and the poor and standing up to big corporations and banks, Biden is doing not one bit better than Trump.

    Someone talking some sense for once.


  • #1437
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    Someone talking some sense for once.

    You mean unlike you who has made baseless claims and stops replying when asked to provide evidence of such claims?


  • #1438
    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,839 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Quantum Baloney wrote: »
    I heard Glenn Greenwald mention that Biden has assembled quite a collection of Iraq-invasion era neo-cons around him in his cabinet. Who are the big names he is referring to?

    Hopefully not Cheney or Rumsfeld


  • #1439
    12gauge dave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,062 ✭✭✭12gauge dave


    Deleted User wrote: »
    You mean unlike you who has made baseless claims and stops replying when asked to provide evidence of such claims?

    I genuinely thought there was more police officers killed I apologise for not researching that claim thoroughly .


  • #1440
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    12gauge dave wrote: »
    I genuinely thought there was more police officers killed I apologise for not researching that claim thoroughly .

    Good man for admitting you made a mistake.

    How about this claim then?


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  • #1441
    Water John
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,831 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    There is one other major diff. BLM protests were about real grievance whilst the riot on the 6th Jan was about imagined grievance.


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