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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    No offence mate Im not bothered about your categories

    Nor are you too bothered by a violent mob with cable ties, explosives and gas masks storming a building full of senators.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115837290&postcount=3466

    Just someone who isn't bothered by much I guess.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    Nor are you too bothered by a violent mob with cable ties, explosives and gas masks storming a building full of senators.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115837290&postcount=3466

    Just someone who isn't bothered by much I guess.

    Point ? That was a comment on the inclusion of Pepe the frog on an FBI list of symbols, its an internet meme from 4chan, which is taken from an online zine called Boys Club.
    Hardly an endorsement of the riots ?? Unlucky with that one try again maybe ;)


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Point ? That was a comment on the inclusion of Pepe the frog on an FBI list of symbols, its an internet meme from 4chan, which is taken from an online zine called Boys Club.
    Hardly an endorsement of the riots ?? Unlucky with that one try again maybe ;)

    I didn't want to point some of your more outlandish comments but if I must.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115839651&postcount=3654

    Your constant attempts to downplay the seriousness of the situation was cringey at best.

    I can share some more comments of yours if you like, but it's probably best to just get back on topic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    I didn't want to point some of your more outlandish comments but if I must.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115839651&postcount=3654

    Your constant attempts to downplay the seriousness of the situation was cringey at best.

    I can share some more comments of yours if you like, but it's probably best to just get back on topic.

    :pac::pac: Asking how those dopes storming the building would have led to them taking control of the United States of America ? Thats endorsement ? Outlandish, to ask how they would have achieved anything by their act of amazing stupidity. They are morons and I don't believe they could have achieved anything by doing this. Where is me endorsing it ?

    No please fire away Im genuinely enjoying these damp squib attempts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    Are we back to this again ? Change the record :rolleyes:
    The same was being claimed about the Dems in the summer except they were anti-white as opposed to white supremacy I believe.
    In that case, you will be able to provide me with:

    1. The names of Democrat(s) doing the equivalent of what Marjorie Greene has been up to, which I have listed in detail, that Democrats have not been looking to censure/oust, and

    2. The names of Democrat(s) who this summer had more than half of their peers in the House advocate for the removal of for denouncing the violence in at some of the riots and protests.

    You also avoided listing the Republicans who have denounced Greene, can you let me know which ones have? Surely there have to be a few at least.


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  • Posts: 6,559 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    :pac::pac: Asking how those dopes storming the building would have led to them taking control of the United States of America ? Thats endorsement ? Outlandish, to ask how they would have achieved anything by their act of amazing stupidity. They are morons and I don't believe they could have achieved anything by doing this. Where is me endorsing it ?

    No please fire away Im genuinely enjoying these damp squib attempts.

    You downplayed an incredibly serious incident that resulted in Insurrectionists getting within meters of some of the highest ranking politicians in the US...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    You downplayed an incredibly serious incident that resulted in Insurrectionists getting within meters of some of the highest ranking politicians in the US...

    By saying they wouldn't succeed ? Sue me.


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    :pac::pac: Asking how those dopes storming the building would have led to them taking control of the United States of America ? Thats endorsement ? Outlandish, to ask how they would have achieved anything by their act of amazing stupidity. They are morons and I don't believe they could have achieved anything by doing this. Where is me endorsing it ?

    No please fire away Im genuinely enjoying these damp squib attempts.

    I never said you endorsed it, I said you downplayed the seriousness of it. Need I remind you that your reply to that comment was basically "I dunno lol".

    Anyways, I hope this horns guy ends up testifying in his costume.
    Al Watkins, a lawyer for accused Capitol rioter Jacob Chansley, is offering his client as a witness in the upcoming Senate impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump.

    https://lawandcrime.com/u-s-capitol-siege/lawyer-for-guy-with-the-horns-and-fur-offers-to-bring-down-trump-by-having-qanon-shaman-testify-at-impeachment-trial/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    I never said you endorsed it, I said you downplayed the seriousness of it.
    I wasn't worried enough basically, got it.

    Me too, that'd be gas, surely they won't let them in without a shirt though, be funny too to see the podium that other guy stole in the court as an exhibit of evidence.


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    I wasn't worried enough basically, got it.

    It wasn't that you personally weren't worried enough, it was that you were so confused as to why other people were worried about it that you questioned people when they said they were.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    You downplayed an incredibly serious incident that resulted in Insurrectionists getting within meters of some of the highest ranking politicians in the US...

    I would say in regards to this, Jon Snow was on Newstalk last week and his opinion of it was it was not as serious as the general media were blowing it up to be.

    That basically they were just an unruly mob that caught the security by surprise and should have been dealt with more swiftly, but nothing was ever going to come of it.


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    I would say in regards to this, Jon Snow was on Newstalk last week and his opinion of it was it was not as serious as the general media were blowing it up to be.

    That basically they were just an unruly mob that caught the security by surprise and should have been dealt with more swiftly, but nothing was ever going to come of it.

    Nothing was ever going to come of a mob storming a building with explosives, gas masks, cable ties and other weapons? And how did nothing come of it when people died?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,083 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    WrenBoy wrote: »
    By saying they wouldn't succeed ? Sue me.

    They didn't succeed on the day, but then neither did the 1916 rising.

    What is clear from this is that the 'cause' have the tacit support, or at least acceptance of the GOP, one of the two main parties in the state.

    What is clear is that it has the sympathies, if not full support, of many in the police and military.

    What it shows is that these groups can rely on many politicians to provide cover and make excuses for them.

    And what it shows is that if you can get enough popular support then the laws don't apply and the systems that have been in place for generations can be attacked without much fear.

    There will be very damaging long term effects of what happened on the 6th, and the GOP are helping to increase those effects by downplaying the events and looking, in some cases, to project themselves as defenders of the cause.

    They had the support of the POTUS, who had manouvered many of his supporters into positions that could aid in any takeover. That it fell apart so quickly is the only reason that it didn't go any further.

    Had Pence decided to play along and actually throw out the votes then who knows what would have happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Nothing was ever going to come of a mob storming a building with explosives, gas masks, cable ties and other weapons? And how did nothing come of it when people died?

    I was just highlighting what a Journalist with experience in war zones like Gaza and El Salvador said on Irish radio.

    You are of course free to disagree.


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    I was just highlighting what a Journalist with experience in war zones like Gaza and El Salvador said on Irish radio.

    You are of course free to disagree.

    It is also your opinion too though right? If so, care to comment on my reply?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,807 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    I would say in regards to this, Jon Snow was on Newstalk last week and his opinion of it was it was not as serious as the general media were blowing it up to be.

    That basically they were just an unruly mob that caught the security by surprise and should have been dealt with more swiftly, but nothing was ever going to come of it.

    You've got to put context around the whole thing - The aim here was not to "overthrow" the government , but to delay the confirmation in Congress. At least that was the hope of the Trump "Brains trust"

    Storm the building , cause lots of trouble , make them delay the vote - Supported by the fact that in the middle of the riot you had Rudi calling Tommy Tuberville (well actually calling another Senator instead because...Rudi) who it now turns out had a meeting with Trump and several others the previous day.

    The call was the remind Tuberville about making sure he did all he could to delay the vote.

    Now , what exactly they were planning to do with the delay is really anyones guess but I suspect that the "logic" was that by breaking the tradition of the vote happening on January 6th they hoped to be able to further delay the vote forcing it to go to the House/Senate vote process which would favour Trump.

    So yes , it was absolutely the intent of Trump and his inner circle for the events of the 6th to cause sufficient upset and delay to impact on the Constitutional process of confirming Biden as President.

    Did they mean for them to actually go inside the Capitol and for death and injury to occur? Probably not , but equally I don't think they were all that fussed as long they got the desired outcome.

    Listen to the voicemail from Rudi intended for Tuberville - Sent right at the height of the events.

    He doesn't say "Hey Tommy , hope you guys are ok , give me a call to let me know you are ok" or that kind of thing - No ,
    He says "Hey Tommy , if you could object to every state and, along with a congressman, get a hearing for every state, I know we would delay you a lot, but it would give us the opportunity to get the legislators who are very, very close to pulling their vote."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    It is also your opinion too though right? If so, care to comment on my reply?

    I would be inclined to lean towards the opinion of a seasoned on the ground war journalist as a point of reference.


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    I would be inclined to lean towards the opinion of a seasoned on the ground war journalist as a point of reference.

    So, at the third time of asking, would you like to respond to my reply?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    So, at the third time of asking, would you like to respond to my reply?

    No


  • Posts: 8,874 [Deleted User]


    No

    Great, thank you for your valued input to this thread.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    Great, thank you for your valued input to this thread.

    I am sorry if my contributions are not to your approval, i will keep trying.icon14.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I would say in regards to this, Jon Snow was on Newstalk last week and his opinion of it was it was not as serious as the general media were blowing it up to be.

    That basically they were just an unruly mob that caught the security by surprise and should have been dealt with more swiftly, but nothing was ever going to come of it.
    I can't find any record of Jon Snow being interviewed by Newstalk last week, but he was interviewed by them yesterday on The Hard Shoulder. https://www.newstalk.com/news/trump-got-away-with-so-much-as-he-was-supported-by-rich-sectors-of-the-media-jon-snow-1142358

    Here is the interview in full, I have listened to it and the insurrection attempt was never even mentioned. Unless there is another interview you can point me to the existence of, I have to ask if you listened to the interview or just read about it somewhere else, and if so... where did you read what you are claiming?

    Some interesting quotes from Jon Snow during that interview, though:
    "Trump got away with so much in the United States, and largely because he was supported and appreciated by rich sectors of the media".

    "I am very relieved [to see the back of Trump] indeed, yes - I don't know if one's allowed to say that but I am. I believe he was a very malign operator".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,083 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    TheAsy- What do you think the intention of the marches, and then the rioters was on the 6th?


    And what do you think the likes of Ted Cruz were attempting to achieve?

    And what do you think was Trumps end goal with his lie about the election?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 634 ✭✭✭TheAsYLuMkeY


    I can't find any record of Jon Snow being interviewed by Newstalk last week, but he was interviewed by them yesterday on The Hard Shoulder. https://www.newstalk.com/news/trump-got-away-with-so-much-as-he-was-supported-by-rich-sectors-of-the-media-jon-snow-1142358

    Here is the interview in full, I have listened to it and the insurrection attempt was never even mentioned. Unless there is another interview you can point me to the existence of, I have to ask if you listened to the interview or just read about it somewhere else, and if so... where did you read what you are claiming?

    Some interesting quotes from Jon Snow during that interview, though:

    I listened to it on the radio in the car in full.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Are the Republicans fond of the BDS movement? I only ask this because I don't recall you mentioning them.before, especially when they tried to stop BDS movements on campuses.

    I don't think either party is too fond of the BDS movement. I don't think I've posted about them before. I only raised this as an example of something that could legitimately be used to criticise the Biden administration from a policy pov.

    It may help others who are finding it difficult to come up with something other than "sleepy/creepy joe" or "dementia" variants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,866 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    I don't think either party is too fond of the BDS movement. I don't think I've posted about them before. I only raised this as an example of something that could legitimately be used to criticise the Biden administration from a policy pov.

    It may help others who are finding it difficult to come up with something other than "sleepy/creepy joe" or "dementia" variants.

    Fwiw I think its disgraceful and Biden/Harris should be rolling back on this, they should also move the US embassy back from Jerusalem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,044 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    I listened to it on the radio in the car in full.
    I have also listened to the Hard Shoulder interview with him in full, form yesterday. At no point during this interview did he mention what you claimed, nor was the Capitol insurrection attempt even brought up.

    I have also linked to the interview in full, in which he does not mention what you claimed. Here is the link again: https://www.newstalk.com/news/trump-got-away-with-so-much-as-he-was-supported-by-rich-sectors-of-the-media-jon-snow-1142358

    If it was a separate interview last week (odd that Newstalk would interview Jon Snow twice in a week, and then go through his life story on the second one without ever mentioning that he had been on a few days prior, but I'll give the benefit of the doubt), then what show or at least day was this on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Fwiw I think its disgraceful and Biden/Harris should be rolling back on this, they should also move the US embassy back from Jerusalem.


    I agree although I doubt that it will happen. The support for Israel is fairly bipartisan in the US.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    Democrat's sure love erections :pac:





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,134 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Democrat's sure love erections :pac:




    Imagine being able to bring up an "erection" without having to pay a porn star $130,000 to spank you on your ample arse with a rolled up copy of a magazine with you on the front of it...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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