Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 11:20PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You are the hope of our nation.

PS your college charging full fees for stay at home learning is as disgusting as Leo and M Martin on their 150,000 + yearly salary telling people "I understand the sacrifices the people have made"

Indeed. It has soured the whole college thing for me now if I'm honest and my class mates feel the same. They knew full well students would pay it as deferring would just prolong the degree.

Full-time students got €250 back of their €3000. We got €0 back.

I was only attending 6 hours per week in the evening and loved the whole experience, I can't imagine how the full-timers must feel. Very hard on them. College students (18-25) seem to be the forgotten people in all this.

Ginger n Lemon · 28-01-2021 11:39PM

Donohoe said the Government would outline a medium term trajectory in its stability programme update in April of how it intends to reduce borrowings and improve finances.

He added that the Commission on Taxation and Welfare would advise the Government on options on how the debt can be paid for in the future.

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-economy-recovery-national-debt-covid-19-pandemic-5338604-Jan2021/

April. not too long to wait to find out.

Will be quite interesting if tax increases or spending cuts for HSE are announced in April. A bit mean given that 12 months ago we were clapping for HSE.

I highly recommend clicking on the hyperlink. Thats the face of our government in 1 photo.

Kunta Kinte · 28-01-2021 11:39PM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

You are the hope of our nation.

I hope you have a stash of toilet paper built up old buddy. You certainly need it for all the brown nosing you do on certain "special friends" of yours here. All the above reply was missing was a "brilliant Lundstram" comment complete with emojis.. I am embarrassed for you.

FintanMcluskey · 28-01-2021 11:44PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

I hope you have a stash of toilet paper built up old buddy. You certainly need it for all the brown nosing you do on certain "special friends" of yours here. All the above reply was missing was a "brilliant Lundstram" comment complete with emojis.. I am embarrassed for you.

Bizzare comment tbh.

Are you jealous of camaraderie?

You have your friends in here too, they are usually found rabbitting on with nonsense but that’s their choice

Lundstram · 28-01-2021 11:48PM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

It`s just the usual ranting typical of a particular cohort on here.

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

The poster who made that comment is continually moaning that the Covid restrictions are hysterical over reactions. Displays a complete lack of self awareness. Not surprising really though.

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Going by their posts many here must have taken the red pill.

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Now? Going by his posting history he has been doing just that for a long time.

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

I hope you have a stash of toilet paper built up old buddy. You certainly need it for all the brown nosing you do on certain "special friends" of yours here. All the above reply was missing was a "brilliant Lundstram" comment complete with emojis.. I am embarrassed for you.

You're fairly handy at the brown-nosing yourself. The above was just from today.

Mr. Karate · 28-01-2021 11:54PM

PASCHAL DONOHOE HAS predicted that the Irish economy will make a “good recovery” in the second half of the year

The only way that will happen is if we exit Level 5 in March and they don't drag their feet reopening. Plus there is no more lockdowns. Business owners and workers need a guarantee they won't be put out of business again.

hamburgham · 28-01-2021 11:54PM

[QUOTE=Ginger n Lemon;116089947

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-economy-recovery-national-debt-covid-19-pandemic-5338604-Jan2021/

I highly recommend clicking on the hyperlink. Thats the face of our government in 1 photo.[/QUOTE]

Really made me laugh.

ypres5 · 29-01-2021 12:00AM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

If that does happen, which I doubt will be anytime in the foreseeable future, I suppose you will be crowing about it on here and elsewhere.

bit of a needlessly standoffish response off you, was that really warranted? also please point out where I've been' crowing' as you seem to be doing a good bit of it yourself so spare the bully boy tactics

ypres5 · 29-01-2021 12:03AM

Lundstram wrote: »

You're fairly handy at the brown-nosing yourself. The above was just from today.

I think the isolation is getting to poor kunta he lashed out at me there for absolutely no reason

Kunta Kinte · 29-01-2021 12:14AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Bizzare comment tbh.

Are you jealous of camaraderie?

You have your friends in here too, they are usually found rabbitting on with nonsense but that’s their choice

No real surprise to see you jump to G&L`s defence. After all he is a particularly "special close friend" of yours on here. Isn`t that so?

29-01-2021 12:16AM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

No real surprise to see you jump to G&L`s defence. After all he is a particularly "special close friend" of yours on here. Isn`t that so?

You’re getting weird now lad...
You should drop your obsession with certain posters, not healthy.

Gael23 · 29-01-2021 12:24AM

I agree with some posters that the toll this is taking on young people is massive and can’t continue for long

Kunta Kinte · 29-01-2021 12:28AM

Deleted User wrote: »

You’re getting weird now lad...
You should drop your obsession with certain posters, not healthy.

I`ll take it on advisement old buddy..

Malcomex · 29-01-2021 12:28AM

Gael23 wrote: »

I agree with some posters that the toll this is taking on young people is massive and can’t continue for long

Is kunta kinte a young person then?

FintanMcluskey · 29-01-2021 12:31AM

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

No real surprise to see you jump to G&L`s defence. After all he is a particularly "special close friend" of yours on here. Isn`t that so?

:pac:

I’ve got some laugh out of that!!

Ya would swear myself and G&L are high ranking public service colleagues drinking champagne in a jacuzzi surrounded by playboy bunnies.

Irish Steve · 29-01-2021 12:36AM

This thread has become something akin to a circular echo chamber, people saying something over their right shoulder, and then a while after, they get to hear the same thing again coming in from the left, and so the same things go round and round in circles, with very little in the way to stop the flow.

Now, if that wasn't enough, it's degenerating into personal swipes and attacks because there's so little of value being talked about, probably because there's very little real chance of stepping restrictions down from Level 5 for some time to come, given the numbers that are still being treated in the hospitals.

There's also significant concern that the EU vaccine programme is not as stable as was being suggested, and that there are some significant hurdles to be overcome before we start seeing an adequate quantity of effective vaccine available for injection. That's not good, given the problems that are very evident across the country.

Fortunately, the actual numbers posting here seems to be quite small, and this thread does not seem to represent the opinion of a majority of people, which given some of the extremes that have been suggested at times is probably just as well.

The next few weeks are certainly going to be interesting, i can only hope that the Zero Covid option nonsense that's been touted will get well and truly knocked on the head, as the possible outcome of such a draconian measure on top of the already difficult transport issues as a result of Brexit will probably result in a distinct shortage of a lot of items on supermarket shelves, and it won't be as a result of panic buying.

FintanMcluskey · 29-01-2021 12:44AM

Pontificating dressed up as intelligence and understanding is perhaps one of the more difficult things to stomach.

Do posters not realise you can pass by a thread without commenting on those who post within it.

Baffling

29-01-2021 12:45AM

Almost everything the anti lockdown posters have predicted has become a reality. Huge numbers unemployed, huge national debt, country officially entering recession, vaccinating to take a long time, lockdowns not working.

Almost everything the pro lockdown posters have said hasn’t happened. Bodies piling up on the streets, hospitals overwhelmed with doctors playing god, economy bouncing right back.

Kunta Kinte · 29-01-2021 12:45AM

ypres5 wrote: »

bit of a needlessly standoffish response off you, was that really warranted? also please point out where I've been' crowing' as you seem to be doing a good bit of it yourself so spare the bully boy tactics

Well maybe crowing was a poor choice of words but when you state you will be "****ing your mask into the nearest bin"as in the below quote then I don`t think it would be too wild an assumption to make. Anyway apologies for any offence caused.

ypres5 wrote: »

Well as soon as the legal impetus for wearing masks is gone I'll be ****ing mine into the nearest bin

Lundstram · 29-01-2021 12:50AM

This thread is the exact opposite to an echo chamber. There's two sides here debating the value of these lockdowns and while it does get a little silly at times (hands up), there's good questions being asked and answered. The main Covid19 thread is the definition of an echo chamber and that's fine. I don't want to participate in that, though. I'd much rather this thread as we don't all agree and there's posts that reflect the reality and not viewed through Covid19 tinted glasses.

FintanMcluskey · 29-01-2021 12:54AM

Lundstram wrote: »

This thread is the exact opposite to an echo chamber. There's two sides here debating the value of these lockdowns and while it does get a little silly at times (hands up), there's good questions being asked and answered. The main Covid19 thread is the definition of an echo chamber and that's fine. I don't want to participate in that, though. I'd much rather this thread as we don't all agree and there's posts that reflect the reality and not viewed through Covid19 tinted glasses.

Couldn’t agree more.

Nobody get bullied out of this thread for having a varying opinion.

It’s perhaps much more balanced even if a bit of cod acting goes on from time to time.

Kunta Kinte · 29-01-2021 12:58AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

:pac:

I’ve got some laugh out of that!!

Ya would swear myself and G&L are high ranking public service colleagues drinking champagne in a jacuzzi surrounded by playboy bunnies.

Some might even be of the opinion that you are like 2 peas in a pod so to speak.

Idbatterim · 29-01-2021 01:00AM

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Donohoe said the Government would outline a medium term trajectory in its stability programme update in April of how it intends to reduce borrowings and improve finances.

He added that the Commission on Taxation and Welfare would advise the Government on options on how the debt can be paid for in the future.

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-economy-recovery-national-debt-covid-19-pandemic-5338604-Jan2021/

April. not too long to wait to find out.

Will be quite interesting if tax increases or spending cuts for HSE are announced in April. A bit mean given that 12 months ago we were clapping for HSE.

I highly recommend clicking on the hyperlink. Thats the face of our government in 1 photo.

It doesn't need to be blanket cuts or increases for hse. Let the overpaid non public facing managers take pay cuts...

Graham · 29-01-2021 01:01AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Almost everything the pro lockdown posters have said hasn’t happened. Bodies piling up on the streets, hospitals overwhelmed with doctors playing god, economy bouncing right back.

So what you're saying is the restrictions worked.

I do expect the economy to bounce back, with a vengeance.

pjohnson · 29-01-2021 01:02AM

Graham wrote: »

So what you're saying is the restrictions worked.

I do expect the economy to bounce back, with a vengeance.

FintanMcluskey · 29-01-2021 01:05AM

Graham wrote: »

So what you're saying is the restrictions worked.
.

Mask wearing and social distancing did work I believe.

Stay at home measures and business closures were the measures that broke us unfortunately

Idbatterim · 29-01-2021 01:07AM

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/donohoe-sees-political-trap-amid-rising-debts-1.4470468?mode=amp

Donohue sees political trap amid rising debts... I literally cant wait to see the outcome politically and from the clappy seals, when the **** hits the fan, due to idiotoc spineless decision making or people better off now , not thinking payback will come...

Budget 2022 cant come soon enough, forget a few years down the line, the repercussions start from this budget!

froog · 29-01-2021 01:08AM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Mask wearing and social distancing did work I believe.

Stay at home measures and business closures were the measures that broke us unfortunately

So only the restrictions that don't impact your life work. Gotcha.

Lundstram · 29-01-2021 01:09AM

Graham wrote: »

So what you're saying is the restrictions worked.

I do expect the economy to bounce back, with a vengeance.

If they don't work in the most restricted country in Europe, they won't work in any other EU state. What makes Ireland special that it felt the need to close constrution and special needs schools? Why have no other EU state closed them?

Why were we heavily restricted in the summer with two digit case numbers per day and 2-3 weeks death free?

No one on here said just let it rip, you seem to have conjured up that synopsis in your head. We are asking why are restrictions getting tighter while case numbers and hospital numbers are plummeting?

All very valid questions but no one on here seems to be able to answer them. All we get is smart alec replies. Edit: Just as i submit this post, I see another pointless retort above me. Sums it up.

FintanMcluskey · 29-01-2021 01:20AM

Lundstram wrote: »

If they don't work in the most restricted country in Europe, they won't work in any other EU state. What makes Ireland special that it felt the need to close constrution and special needs schools? Why have no other EU state closed them?

Let’s not forget Ireland which is Europe’s youngest nation, had the longest strictest lockdown to combat a disease that primarily targets the elderly.

So, knowing that Ireland surely had much less deaths than the rest of Europe

Deaths in Ireland among the over-65s were the third highest in Europe relative to population. The rate to early October in Ireland was 2,359 deaths per million. Only Belgium and England/Wales had higher rates of deaths.

But they didn’t.

My biggest fear is that many will continue to ignore the sunk cost of lockdown until its much too late.

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