Golf Lockdown Discussion No discussion of breaking Restrictions

mjsc1970 · 28-01-2021 04:30PM

higster wrote: »

Hate saying it but I’m betting week Apr 12th after St Patrick’s/Easter bank holidays...

I tend to agree with you here

ClutchIt · 28-01-2021 05:23PM

I'm hitting to a practice net most days... it is making the lack of real golf so much worse!!! Would kill for a game

slingerz · 28-01-2021 06:25PM

Kiith wrote: »

Hopefully lvl4 by March, but we'll still have travel restrictions. Same county or tough luck i'd imagine.

Hopefully not a specific distance restriction, as i'm about 50km from my future club.

50KM? That’s a trip every Sunday

ClutchIt · 28-01-2021 08:54PM

Ya that's an awful long way, is that by choice?

Seve OB · 28-01-2021 09:11PM

35km each way for me, about 40-45 mins. Makes is a long day

I reckon kilths drive is probably quicker than mine ?

gypsy79 · 29-01-2021 10:52AM

slingerz wrote: »

50KM? That’s a trip every Sunday

Stuck behind yank who can’t use gear sticks all summer too

opinionated3 · 31-01-2021 03:10PM

woodyg wrote: »

see yea all after the May bank holiday

I'm afraid after Philip Nolan's interview on the radio today, you could be right. Setting the country up for a VERY slow and deliberate opening.

ridonkulous · 31-01-2021 03:35PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

I'm afraid after Philip Nolan's interview on the radio today, you could be right. Setting the country up for a VERY slow and deliberate opening.

What was he saying? Were there any specifics mentioned?

opinionated3 · 31-01-2021 04:27PM

ridonkulous wrote: »

What was he saying? Were there any specifics mentioned?

No specifics per se. The opening of the country will be based on priorities first i.e schools, construction etc, but even that would be under a highly phased roll out. The only light at the end of the tunnel was the actual phrase he used....."high priority, low risk". I'm hoping golf comes under low risk but he seemed extremely cautious and basically said the country would be living with restrictions for a long, long time to come.

Roger_007 · 31-01-2021 08:07PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

No specifics per se. The opening of the country will be based on priorities first i.e schools, construction etc, but even that would be under a highly phased roll out. The only light at the end of the tunnel was the actual phrase he used....."high priority, low risk". I'm hoping golf comes under low risk but he seemed extremely cautious and basically said the country would be living with restrictions for a long, long time to come.

I don’t think that golf will be very high on the priority list.......quite the opposite, in fact!

CalamariFritti · 31-01-2021 08:15PM

Roger_007 wrote: »

I don’t think that golf will be very high on the priority list.......quite the opposite, in fact!

His point was low risk.

Anyway... You wouldn't want to think about it too much. We are actually allowed to walk the course right now. In small groups even. Just not hit a ball while we do it. Then it becomes a public health order breach.
Its kinda mental when you put it like that.

fred funk }{ · 03-02-2021 11:20PM

Not great comments today from An Taoiseach. Said only schools and construction will open March 5th.

opinionated3 · 04-02-2021 08:05AM

And like a flock of sheep the GUI will just accept it......

Wichita Lineman · 04-02-2021 08:55AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

And like a flock of sheep the GUI will just accept it......

Golf Ireland wont have a choice in the matter.

Just the same as if a hairdresser decided to open off their own bat they'd be shut down immediately.

willabur · 04-02-2021 09:51AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

And like a flock of sheep the GUI will just accept it......

what do you expect to happen exactly?
Revolt?

opinionated3 · 04-02-2021 09:57AM

willabur wrote: »

what do you expect to happen exactly?
Revolt?

You know something, at this stage yeah, I would probably join a protest to try reopen Ireland a bit quicker than Martin is allowing. Just construction and schools in march?? That's nothing! They should never have been closed in the first place FFS. Golf is the safest sport to play in these times. Open the courses. Do wonders for our mental health at least....

blue note · 04-02-2021 10:05AM

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power golf Ireland have. When people say they shouldn't accept it, what do you mean? What should they do? It's not as if they can get public support to reopen the courses. We're not particularly popular with non golfers and with everything else closed, I can't imagine anyone would support golf reopening. So the government holding firm would probably make them look good if anything.

I just don't understand what power golf ireland have here.

GreeBo · 04-02-2021 10:22AM

blue note wrote: »

I think people are grossly overestimating how much power golf Ireland have. When people say they shouldn't accept it, what do you mean? What should they do? It's not as if they can get public support to reopen the courses. We're not particularly popular with non golfers and with everything else closed, I can't imagine anyone would support golf reopening. So the government holding firm would probably make them look good if anything.

I just don't understand what power golf ireland have here.

+1
And no government is going to waste time distinguishing between different sports and giving them different rules, its just asking for a fight on multiple fights.

BENDYBINN · 04-02-2021 10:30AM

willabur wrote: »

what do you expect to happen exactly?
Revolt?

Im off to write some graffiti........seems to work in other places!!

opinionated3 · 04-02-2021 11:03AM

GreeBo wrote: »

+1
And no government is going to waste time distinguishing between different sports and giving them different rules, its just asking for a fight on multiple fights.

And when the "elite" amateurs of the GAA are allowed back in march, what will be the excuse then?

tyivpc5qjx0f2b · 04-02-2021 11:09AM

This is the same narrative that arose the last time case numbers began to drop during restrictions.
The so called failure of the GUI to fight the corner of golfers and succumb to the government’s directives.

It’s laughable really.

Russman · 04-02-2021 11:11AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

And when the "elite" amateurs of the GAA are allowed back in march, what will be the excuse then?

Unfortunately they're viewed as being from the masses and "one of us" so to speak. Golf, particularly after "Golfgate", is still viewed, completely incorrectly, as being for the "elites".

I wish it was back as much as any of us on here, but it would be a PR disaster for them if golf came back before retail and schools. You can hear it now "....ohhh yeah, looking after their own again, typical........"

hurleronditch · 04-02-2021 11:48AM

opinionated3 wrote: »

And when the "elite" amateurs of the GAA are allowed back in march, what will be the excuse then?

I wouldn’t be surprised if when inter county GAA comes back, if the GUI wanted to run off the provincial championships, the Irish amateur open and close championship and some select scratch cups that door would be ajar.

As much as the GAA is far from perfect, I guarantee you that if the ballygobackwards Junior Bs are back playing, the golf courses will be open, so I’m not sure what the problem is.

All this other talk of the GUI rolling over and taking it, what do you expect to happen? The message at all levels, is stay at home, do some exercise locally but other than that don’t do anything or do go anywhere you don’t need to. The thought that the government would carve out one solitary sport for special beneficial treatment is hilarious.

Stay at home lads, enjoy the golf on telly, roll some puts across the carpet and by the time the weather is half decent the courses will be open again. It’s fairly easy.

Ivefoundgod · 04-02-2021 12:37PM

hurleronditch wrote: »

I wouldn’t be surprised if when inter county GAA comes back, if the GUI wanted to run off the provincial championships, the Irish amateur open and close championship and some select scratch cups that door would be ajar.

As much as the GAA is far from perfect, I guarantee you that if the ballygobackwards Junior Bs are back playing, the golf courses will be open, so I’m not sure what the problem is.

All this other talk of the GUI rolling over and taking it, what do you expect to happen? The message at all levels, is stay at home, do some exercise locally but other than that don’t do anything or do go anywhere you don’t need to. The thought that the government would carve out one solitary sport for special beneficial treatment is hilarious.

Stay at home lads, enjoy the golf on telly, roll some puts across the carpet and by the time the weather is half decent the courses will be open again. It’s fairly easy.

Spot on here. While I'm no GAA fan there is no comparison between inter county players and your average golfer, those elite amateur golf events might have some chance but us normal hackers are equivalent to club players. If club GAA is back on then golf clubs will be open. The only exception Catherine Martin made for GAA is "elite" sport which is inter county only for the moment until the club championship is back which won't be until after the All Irelands though there isn't a schedule at the moment AFAIK.

As you said there is no hope the government are going to open just golf or make an exception for one sport and its genuinely hilarious that people are talking about protesting over it. I can just imagine a bunch of middle aged golfers protesting outside government buildings

blue note · 04-02-2021 12:59PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

And when the "elite" amateurs of the GAA are allowed back in march, what will be the excuse then?

This post makes a good point accidentally. The government wanted the intercounty gaa back so probably 0.1% of players back playing. In reality this was so that people could watch it on TV, not for the players benefit.

This would be the equivalent of one or two golfers from each club in Ireland being allowed back to play. As someone said, similar to allowing the top amateur competitions to take place. Although with no-one watching them, you'd have to say the reason for allowing intercounty gaa isn't there for elite amateur golf.

But with all that in mind, people from one sport can't look at another and say fair enough, good luck to them. They can't even look at the other sport and see that the set of circumstances are different for both sports so they should reasonably have a different set of restrictions. People here looked at gaa and said they're amateur, we're amateur, and if we're not allowed to play they shouldn't be allowed either.

There was lots of negative publicity from running off the gaa championships, but they balanced it off against the hundreds of thousands who watched it and decided it was worth it. There would be similar negative publicity if golf was allowed to open and other sports weren't, but without the hundreds of thousands of viewers each weekend to balance it off against.

Whiplash85 · 04-02-2021 01:06PM

Varadkar did say this morning that he hopes level 4 in some form on March 5th. He emphasised meeting friends and family outdoors again. But it will probably be level 4 with some modifications. I think golf might be allowed in those circumstances but not for those living beyond a certain mile radius from their golf club and maybe limited to same household and 1 other from a different household. It came with usual caveats of numbers of cases and hospital numbers which do seem to be plateauing ever so slightly. Does anyone think golf is a possibility in early March and if not when can you see the earliest it will be allowed open?

opinionated3 · 04-02-2021 01:12PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Varadkar did say this morning that he hopes level 4 in some form on March 5th. He emphasised meeting friends and family outdoors again. But it will probably be level 4 with some modifications. I think golf might be allowed in those circumstances but not for those living beyond a certain mile radius from their golf club and maybe limited to same household and 1 other from a different household. It came with usual caveats of numbers of cases and hospital numbers which do seem to be plateauing ever so slightly. Does anyone think golf is a possibility in early March and if not when can you see the earliest it will be allowed open?

Honestly, I think the government will do whatever Tony tells them to do. So no golf, no socialising etc. Construction and schools seems to be the top end of it. Which is totally fine, but bear in mind it probably means another 4-6 weeks of lockdown generally speaking.

Whiplash85 · 04-02-2021 01:24PM

opinionated3 wrote: »

Honestly, I think the government will do whatever Tony tells them to do. So no golf, no socialising etc. Construction and schools seems to be the top end of it. Which is totally fine, but bear in mind it probably means another 4-6 weeks of lockdown generally speaking.

So if we take the ultra conservative NPHET scenario you painted above i.e. 6 weeks from 5th March that would bring us until the 16th April. By which time we will have been in level 5 restrictions for exactly 6 months with a 3 week in between. Its quite staggering and hard to comprehend that last sentence I am after typing but what you said is entirely plausible. We have given up so much of our freedoms and rights without so much as a whimper. You would wonder what kind of Ireland we will have when this is over. I think we pride ourselves on our welcome to tourists and visitors who invest so much in Irish tourism including golf tourism. We also like to advertise we are open for business. The messaging and tone of media, authorities be they in political or health circles while necessary and important at various stages will have become as endemic in the minds of people as the virus itself. It will be very hard to unring that particular bell but the messaging does need to change now over the next weeks and months. We cannot stay in a state of paralysis forever.

Mushy · 04-02-2021 01:24PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Varadkar did say this morning that he hopes level 4 in some form on March 5th. He emphasised meeting friends and family outdoors again. But it will probably be level 4 with some modifications. I think golf might be allowed in those circumstances but not for those living beyond a certain mile radius from their golf club and maybe limited to same household and 1 other from a different household. It came with usual caveats of numbers of cases and hospital numbers which do seem to be plateauing ever so slightly. Does anyone think golf is a possibility in early March and if not when can you see the earliest it will be allowed open?

I don't think it will be early March. I think it'll be Easter weekend or the weekend after. We'll be buoyed on by the upcoming Masters/just finished Masters only to snap hook thr first drive oob

opinionated3 · 04-02-2021 01:28PM

Whiplash85 wrote: »

So if we take the ultra conservative NPHET scenario you painted above i.e. 6 weeks from 5th March that would bring us until the 16th April. By which time we will have been in level 5 restrictions for exactly 6 months with a 3 week in between. Its quite staggering and hard to comprehend that last sentence I am after typing but what you said is entirely plausible. We have given up so much of our freedoms and rights without so much as a whimper. You would wonder what kind of Ireland we will have when this is over. I think we pride ourselves on our welcome to tourists and visitors who invest so much in Irish tourism including golf tourism. We also like to advertise we are open for business. The messaging and tone of media, authorities be they in political or health circles while necessary and important at various stages will have become as endemic in the minds of people as the virus itself. It will be very hard to unring that particular bell but the messaging does need to change now over the next weeks and months. We cannot stay in a state of paralysis forever.

Totally agree. I think people misunderstood my earlier post about protest. I meant " in general" not just "middle aged golfers outside the dail" protest. But anyways we're veering off topic.
It would be great to be given a definitive date to actually look forward to though wouldn't it!

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