Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Graham wrote: »

I just don't see the point they're trying to make.

Restrictions are wrong because TikTok videos?

No, some nurses made videos of themselves dancing and put them on TikTok. It became a bit if a thing with other hospitals doing it. it was then used as "evidence" it's all a big conspiracy and no hospital is busy and perhaps even a big hoax. As time went on and covid numbers and deaths exploded around Europe most people were able to see that tiktok videos are not evidence of that much at all.

Those that want us out of lockdown bring it up though. It isn't going to change anything, so let them on

Would much prefer to see the decision to move in and out of lockdowns based on set in stone figures, be it cases, or ICU numbers or whatever.

A date of March 5th is out there as the day we could move out of level 5. But there is no science to this.

My opinion: For example, if there was a target of say, a 3 day average of 100 cases or less, we can move down to level 4.
And if there was a 5 day average of 200 cases or above we go back to level 5.

I think people would be more motivated to follow guidelines and stay at home etc.

Also, in that scenario, in theory at least, we as a nation could only be within a few days of an easing of restrictions at any given time....

Varying figures would obviously be needed to move in and out of the different levels but at least there would be clear visibility on what is required for all to see.

This yo-yoing in and out of restrictions based on feelings and opinions is hard to comprehend with the science and technology available to the powers that be.

I think masks may be around a while yet.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.amp.html%3f0p19G=0232

Kunta Kinte wrote: »

Seems like it. Although there appear to be a few who are still deep in the denial stage with their " Covid is only a mild respiratory illness" nonsense and such like.

oh the denial is still strong for sure.

there are still people here going with the;

1. no worse than the flu
2. no one actually dies from covid

stuff.

froog wrote: »

some of the posters here are just about moving into stage 2 of the grief cycle. it's progress I guess.

Sound man Kubler-Ross.......:)

Like some other posters....I headed for stage 5,preferring to sacrifice my $200 and not pass GO....

After exploring my options,I bought a second hand plan,and am moving on (returning) to normality as often,and for as long as I can.

Just as many of the feminist movement of the 1960's expressed their desire for freedom by burning their bra's,I'm building a pyre of masks in the back garden,and at the appropriate moment I shall light the blue touchpaper.

Myself and a few demonized,decrepit and ailing Three Score and ten's will guzzle cider and much a few kebabs whilst playing loud modern(ish) music to celebrate the return of normality........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jwtyn-L-2gQ

(Crikey....I've just realized those musicians are Vulnerable now....oh well..... :eek: )

Lundstram wrote: »

First of all I wasn't bashing nurses. They are being portrayed as something they're not, heroes. No one made them become a nurse, they have job security and they are paid handsomely in comparsion to other EU states. Conditions are awful but that's Paul Reid's brief. They should take their anger out on him.

I have absolutely zero sympathy for public service staff moaning and crying while there's 500k private sector staff out of a job.

And I make no apologies for that.

And again, the vast majority of nurses are going to work, doing their job and going home. They arent asking to be called heroes. You repeat that line over and over to bash them all with. Do you know how many healthcare workers are in Ireland? What proportion of that is on social media asking people to call them heroes?

Your annoyance is they are not suffering as much as you.

djr15 wrote: »

Would much prefer to see the decision to move in and out of lockdowns based on set in stone figures, be it cases, or ICU numbers or whatever.

That was the original intention of the living with covid plan that lasted all of a couple of hours... or so we were told!

Malcomex wrote: »

Same here , the most awful anti-social device on God's earth akin to what BJ used to call "letterboxes"

But will they go

I'm getting a feeling that they're here to stay what with variants and reducing transmission

Very easy for the government to retain

For a large cohort of people of the anti-social type they are an irrelevance, some would sooner retain them as it's easier to ignore people with them on.

They’ll be dropped like a hot snot at the first opportunity! They’re a daily reminder of the last year and visible all around you! People will want to forget this and out it behind them, masks will be the first to go!

Malcomex wrote: »

You reckon

How many of the anti-social type (imo) and the vulnerable /hypochondriac will prefer or will continue to wear them

Will the government even drop them?

Some will continue to wear them, as is their right! But I think the majority will say f**k it. The government will do what they believe we want them to do! You’d hope atleast!

Graham wrote: »

outside of conspiracy theories, there's been no suggestion that mask mandates will be kept in place permanently. Why would they?

Considering how RTE and even the Govt have been fear mongering to the point of absurdity it shouldn't be too surprising to think that a segment of the population will continue to cling to the masks. Even when Covid isn't as prevalent anymore.

Lundstram wrote: »

Weird question and I’m not sure what kind of answer you want but I’ll try.

I’ve a full time job and I’ve a part-time job (1 night per week), as you can imagine I pay a lot of tax as a single person (not married).

I’m in third year of a Bachelors of Arts degree in accounting. I pay all of this myself as part time college students get no support if they have a job. All online now but full fees were still charged. And yes that peed me off.

I play Gaelic football with my club. I miss that more than anything else. I also was training the u12s.

I’ve never been in trouble with the Gardai. I think a lot of them are lazy and incompetent but I’m civil to them, as everyone should be.

So there you go, I’ve no idea why you asked but that’s my lot.

Compared to some people I don’t contribute much to society but I work, pay tax and stay out of trouble. That’s a pretty good contribution in my book.

You are the hope of our nation.

PS your college charging full fees for stay at home learning is as disgusting as Leo and M Martin on their 150,000 + yearly salary telling people "I understand the sacrifices the people have made"