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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #1262
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354497546836705284?s=20


  • #1263
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes, but what determines the overall severity of COVID is not deaths, but those excess deaths that wouldn't ordinarily be seen.

    How many of those 85 a day, for example, now include COVID?

    A few posters mentioned the 1,700 deaths in the UK, but proportionally, that is the equivalent of 130 deaths here. How many of those are excess, above and beyond is expected at this time of year.

    So yes, I think my perspective does hold some gravity.

    UK deaths with COVID on certificate 103,600
    UK COVID deaths within 28 days of diagnosis 101,880
    https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

    UK excess deaths 100,000
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/uk-excess-deaths-since-start-of-pandemic-surpass-100-000-data-suggests-1.4462125

    So most look to be excess deaths at least at first appearances


  • #1264
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,231 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Are you seriously advocating saying to an asymptomatic person, that they have an active disease?

    They absolutely do not.

    It's scientifically and logically inaccurate use of language - on every possible level.

    As I said, it's a fashionable way to phrase it. That's all.

    90% of people have a form of herpes virus latent in their body, which causes no symptoms. We do not walk around saying to each other, "I have a disease right now".
    You don't like the term but it is a completely acceptable use of it.


  • #1265
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hate the phrase, "the disease".

    That Professor Nolan chap, one of the most boring speakers in human history, repeats this phrase ad nauseum.

    It's not suppressing a disease; it's suppressing transmission of a virus.

    A quarter of people who get the virus are asymptomatic. They cannot be said to have a disease.

    It's irritating use of language and it's caught on like some creepy fashion statement.

    Holohan loves using it, too.

    Imagine getting worked up over this. You know what is being referred to here, no need for the drama.


  • #1266
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Cases lower than swabs so. Good to see. Sadly another high number of deaths.


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  • #1267
    appledrop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,654 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Also reports of Gardai breaking up funeral of 200 people also in Wexford.

    Looks like Wexford is new hotspot for Covid.


  • #1268
    paulie21
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,274 ✭✭✭✭paulie21


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354497765456416770?s=19


  • #1269
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Disappointing to go back over 1000


  • #1270
    kippy
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    tom1ie wrote: »
    Is the problem not that when they reduce restrictions numbers will go up because of the higher transmissibility of this British strain let alone alone other strains?
    So we’ll be back to square one if we open up too early without having quarantine in place and tougher enforcement of existing penalties etc.
    I get what your saying about the problem with NI but we have to work towards zero covid and get to a point where we are happy to open up taking into account the higher transmissibility.

    It's literally way to late for that at this point.


  • #1271
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    tom1ie wrote: »
    Is the problem not that when they reduce restrictions numbers will go up because of the higher transmissibility of this British strain let alone alone other strains?
    So we’ll be back to square one if we open up too early without having quarantine in place and tougher enforcement of existing penalties etc.
    I get what your saying about the problem with NI but we have to work towards zero covid and get to a point where we are happy to open up taking into account the higher transmissibility.

    I think its going to have to be trial and error. We don't really know yet what the effect of the UK strain will be. Christmas is hard to judge anything off. I really hope there is something done on vaccines because its starting to feel like we will never get out if this.
    If Boris manages to vaccinate most of the population before European countries vaccinate a quarter of their population its going to be enough to win support for the argument for Brexit and it will be a significant blow to the credibility of the EU.


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  • #1272
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,170 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    kippy wrote: »
    It's literally way to late for that at this point.

    Wouldn't say that, vaccinating 70% of adults will probably take most of the year.


  • #1273
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354498049578512390?s=19

    Tony using the 14 day ago here to scare people. I'd be nice just for a change to say how well its going. Numbers dropping really fast yet he searches for a stat to scare people. RTE will use it to spread more misery later no doubt instead of using 5 or 7 day.


  • #1274
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    kippy wrote: »
    It's literally way to late for that at this point.

    It's not too late just because you said it is. Zero covid would be an attempt to avoid these ridiculous lockdowns, and to avoid people getting sick and dying. Even when we have vaccines there is no guarantee the virus will stop circulating and infecting the most vulnerable, and there is no guarantee that there won't be an escape. Zero covid would go a long way in helping us avoid more lockdowns in those cases.


  • #1275
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Sad to see case numbers rising exponentially again :(


  • #1276
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Disappointing to go back over 1000

    Wednesday is always unually higher than Tuesday. It was going to happen.


  • #1277
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    brick tamland wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354498049578512390?s=19

    Tony using the 14 day ago here to scare people. I'd be nice just for a change to say how well its going. Numbers dropping really fast yet he searches for a stat to scare people. RTE will use it to spread more misery later no doubt instead of using 5 or 7 day.

    Fear = obedience to restrictions.

    The Irish populace are by and large idiots. If they hear we have good progress there will be crowds on the streets. Dublin's streets are busier now than 2 weeks ago. Same restrictions. Less people making the effort to stay home.


  • #1278
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Golfman64 wrote: »
    The surge here was caused by 3 weeks of open hospitality followed by mass congregations over Christmas.

    Don't forget the migration back down the country after the craic in Dublin.


  • #1279
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    brick tamland wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354498049578512390?s=19

    Tony using the 14 day ago here to scare people. I'd be nice just for a change to say how well its going. Numbers dropping really fast yet he searches for a stat to scare people. RTE will use it to spread more misery later no doubt instead of using 5 or 7 day.

    5 and 7 day figures are also higher than October.


  • #1280
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    7 days average 1,700 cases per day. It was 2891 last Wednesday.


  • #1281
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,067 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    kippy wrote: »
    It's literally way to late for that at this point.

    With respect I think you could be wrong here. How long before we reach 70% via vaccine plus infection? If it’s going to be almost a year or even more well then we need to think of another way of approaching this so we can get back to normality quicker, because this setup is diabolical.


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  • #1282
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    RIP to the 54.

    Not surprised at the cases, usual Wednesday jump. We're still on the right track.


  • #1283
    spookwoman
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    appledrop wrote: »
    Also reports of Gardai breaking up funeral of 200 people also in Wexford.

    Looks like Wexford is new hotspot for Covid.

    Aw FFS will people ever cop on, especially in Wexford considering what happened at the last.


  • #1284
    thegreengoblin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,164 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    appledrop wrote: »
    Also reports of Gardai breaking up funeral of 200 people also in Wexford.

    Looks like Wexford is new hotspot for Covid.

    That sort of stuff drives me mad. It's a real kick in the stones for the vast majority of families who have had reduced numbers at funerals for the last year. Just because a family is considered 'large' doesn't mean they all have to show up. Morons.


  • #1285
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,123 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    appledrop wrote: »
    Also reports of Gardai breaking up funeral of 200 people also in Wexford.

    Looks like Wexford is new hotspot for Covid.

    :eek:
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1286
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    thegreengoblin wrote: »
    That sort of stuff drives me mad. It's a real kick in the stones for the vast majority of families who have had reduced numbers at funerals for the last year. Just because a family is considered 'large' doesn't mean they all have to show up. Morons.

    It's the absolute summit of selfishness.


  • #1287
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,123 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    54 Deaths
    1,335 Cases
    437 in Dublin, 114 in Cork, 78 in Galway, 71 in Meath, 61 in Louth and the remaining 574 cases are spread across all other counties
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1288
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Love their big funerals in the middle of a pandemic down in Wexford.


  • #1289
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Love their big funerals in the middle of a pandemic down in Wexford.

    I'd say its a conspiracy by undertakers down there. Encourage big funerals so there will be more funerals. :)


  • #1290
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I'd say its a conspiracy by undertakers down there. Encourage big funerals so there will be more funerals. :)

    The undertakers must be dying for more funerals.


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  • #1291
    thecretinhop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    I wonder who they are lol.
    buried my uncle today in the rain. had to help with coffin as it lead lined.
    pouring rain. 10 in church. People in cars outside. People on street in cars.
    it was beautiful and safe.
    it takes an utter cnt to act any different.
    rip uncle


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