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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #1232
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    The UK could have the entire population given the first does by the middle of April!

    They are going to have a booming summer

    Good.. might stop them constantly ****ing up our efforts.

    The surge here was driven by two things... the north and people returning from England for xmas.


  • #1233
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Good.. might stop them constantly ****ing up our efforts.

    The surge here was driven by two things... the north and people returning from England for xmas.

    The surge here was caused by 3 weeks of open hospitality followed by mass congregations over Christmas.


  • #1234
    Allinall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,294 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    The UK could have the entire population given the first does by the middle of April!

    They are going to have a booming summer

    De tuk our vaccines.


  • #1235
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,648 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    One thing we learned from this pandemic is when the chips are down it's every country for itself. Boris smirking as he confirms ''' our vaccines won't be effected by astrazeneca row with EU''

    Makes no sense for UK to have endless supply of vaccines, while EU had very little. Shirley UK should be helping us and rest of EU to vaccinate the most at risk, over the UK vaccinating kids and those in their 20's


  • #1236
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Good.. might stop them constantly ****ing up our efforts.

    The surge here was driven by two things... the north and people returning from England for xmas.

    That's bull. The surge here was driven by people mixing a lot in the run up to and over Christmas. Can't blame the brits for everything as much as I'd like to.


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  • #1237
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,128 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Wow 1725 deaths in the UK alone today. Absolutely relentless this thing.

    RIP :(
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  • #1238
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    That's bull. The surge here was driven by people mixing a lot in the run up to and over Christmas. Can't blame the brits for everything as much as I'd like to.

    Why were Louth, Donegal, Monaghan cases per 100k multiple times that of other counties?

    Edit: and why are 60% of all our cases now the Kent strain?


  • #1239
    Jimi H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1354487080374722566

    Haven’t heard much about meat factories lately. Have cases reduced or have they stopped reporting on them? Maybe I’ve missed reports.


  • #1240
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,752 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    High quality instant testing would be such a game changer!

    If every school kid does an antigen test every week etc.

    It would seriously reduce the risk

    Every school kid?

    What a waste of resources that would be


  • #1241
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I don't think that's informed perspective at all. 30 deaths daily in excess in Ireland is a pronounced increase upon normal mortality rates considering about 85 people die daily here under normal circumstances.

    As for the percentage at the end well it's daily so doesn't tell you anything really. What's the percent if that death rate maintains for months.

    Yes, but what determines the overall severity of COVID is not deaths, but those excess deaths that wouldn't ordinarily be seen.

    How many of those 85 a day, for example, now include COVID?

    A few posters mentioned the 1,700 deaths in the UK, but proportionally, that is the equivalent of 130 deaths here. How many of those are excess, above and beyond is expected at this time of year.

    So yes, I think my perspective does hold some gravity.


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  • #1242
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    One thing we learned from this pandemic is when the chips are down it's every country for itself. Boris smirking as he confirms ''' our vaccines won't be effected by astrazeneca row with EU''

    Makes no sense for UK to have endless supply of vaccines, while EU had very little. Shirley UK should be helping us and rest of EU to vaccinate the most at risk, over the UK vaccinating kids and those in their 20's

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  • #1243
    muddypuppy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭muddypuppy


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    If it's a requirement to enter France then it has some sort of worth whatever we think. If only by the virtue that you can access French markets for export, which we do.
    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Ireland haven't.

    Rocdoc is a private company. They're selling them to lorry drivers because France require them.

    It doesn't make them any more accurate.

    I completely misread that, I assumed it was for driver coming into ireland, not leaving. Thanks!


  • #1244
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    So the government will "encourage" people returning to Ireland from overseas to quarantine at home for 14 days. How will this be implemented, "arra we'll get their telephone number and ring them up every so often. And they have to promise us they'll stay home". What a joke.


  • #1245
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,231 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    What fools are talking about Zero Covid?
    The mind really boggles - the time for a Zero Covid strategy was back last February March when:
    1. Very little was known about the disease.
    2. There was literally no sign of a vacine being developed, yet alone tested/approved.

    Zero covid is a pointless strategy with so many door open and so much of the disease globally, particularily with the issues with Northern Ireland.
    The talk of this should stop and focus on getting the vaccine(s) out there as efficiently as possibly while unwinding resrictions once hospitals clear some more.


  • #1246
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Why were Louth, Donegal, Monaghan cases per 100k multiple times that of other counties?

    Edit: and why are 60% of all our cases now the Kent strain?

    None of that would be an issue if there wasn't a free for all over Xmas. Granted the strain did come from the UK but it was because people were mixing so heavily over Xmas that it spread.


  • #1247
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Good.. might stop them constantly ****ing up our efforts.

    The surge here was driven by two things... the north and people returning from England for xmas.

    Nothing to do with the fact loads of people went socializing in indoor settings for the month of December acting like it was a normal year!?:pac::D:confused:

    The variant is a complete distraction, it is a dominant strain that will take over, it isn't more transmissive, just more dominant.


  • #1248
    appledrop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭appledrop


    Jimi H wrote: »
    Haven’t heard much about meat factories lately. Have cases reduced or have they stopped reporting on them? Maybe I’ve missed reports.

    Just a few days ago reported outbreak in Slaley meats in Wexford. 42 tests positive. Thats huge amount imagine the size of close contact list.


  • #1249
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    kippy wrote: »
    What fools are talking about Zero Covid?
    The mind really boggles - the time for a Zero Covid strategy was back last February March when:
    1. Very little was known about the disease.
    2. There was literally no sign of a vacine being developed, yet alone tested/approved.

    Hate the phrase, "the disease".

    That Professor Nolan chap, one of the most boring speakers in human history, repeats this phrase ad nauseum.

    It's not suppressing a disease; it's suppressing transmission of a virus.

    A quarter of people who get the virus are asymptomatic. They cannot be said to have a disease.

    It's irritating use of language and it's caught on like some creepy fashion statement.

    Holohan loves using it, too.


  • #1250
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,231 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    appledrop wrote: »
    Just a few days ago reported outbreak in Slaley meats in Wexford. 42 tests positive. Thats huge amount imagine the size of close contact list.

    It's hard to know how big the close contacts list would be.
    For one they are only going back 2 days from the onset of symptoms/taking the test to capture close contacts.


  • #1251
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    kippy wrote: »
    What fools are talking about Zero Covid?
    The mind really boggles - the time for a Zero Covid strategy was back last February March when:
    1. Very little was known about the disease.
    2. There was literally no sign of a vacine being developed, yet alone tested/approved.

    Zero covid is a pointless strategy with so many door open and so much of the disease globally, particularily with the issues with Northern Ireland.
    The talk of this should stop and focus on getting the vaccine(s) out there as efficiently as possibly while unwinding resrictions once hospitals clear some more.

    People talking about it are far more qualified than anyone on this forum. I do thing the term Zero Covid works against them. Should be renamed maximum suppressions strategy or something like that. Insanity is trying the same thing again and again.With a vaccine suppression the virus to where if no longer effects so much of life is hopefully possible this year.


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  • #1252
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,231 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hate the phrase, "the disease".

    That Professor Nolan chap, one of the most boring speakers in human history, repeats this phrase ad nauseum.

    It's not suppressing a disease; it's suppressing transmission of a virus.

    A quarter of people who get the virus are asymptomatic. They cannot be said to have a disease.

    It's irritating use of language and it's caught on like some creepy fashion statement.

    Holohan loves using it, too.
    Do you work in the field?


  • #1253
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    appledrop wrote: »
    Just a few days ago reported outbreak in Slaley meats in Wexford. 42 tests positive. Thats huge amount imagine the size of close contact list.

    Seems they are pretty good at regular tests so hopefully will be under control soon


  • #1254
    DrSpongeBobz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 262 ✭✭DrSpongeBobz


    Where me god damn numbers


  • #1255
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,127 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    kippy wrote: »
    Do you work in the field?

    What would a farmer know about it?


  • #1256
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,231 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    wadacrack wrote: »
    People talking about it are far more qualified than anyone on this forum. I do thing the term Zero Covid works against them. Should be renamed maximum suppressions strategy or something like that. Insanity is trying the same thing again and again.With a vaccine suppression the virus to where if no longer effects so much of life is hopefully possible this year.

    It's mostly politicicians and randomers on the internet I've seen talk about it to be honest.
    It's literally TOO LATE in the day to talk about a "maximimum supression strategy" or whatever BS you want to call it.
    It wouldn't be too late if there weren't a vaccine or a number of them....but there is and that is the reality.

    These rolling restriction levels work to reduce the impact of the disease on hospitals.


  • #1257
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    kippy wrote: »
    Do you work in the field?

    Are you seriously advocating saying to an asymptomatic person, that they have an active disease?

    They absolutely do not.

    It's scientifically and logically inaccurate use of language - on every possible level.

    As I said, it's a fashionable way to phrase it. That's all.

    90% of people have a form of herpes virus latent in their body, which causes no symptoms. We do not walk around saying to each other, "I have a disease right now".


  • #1258
    appledrop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,660 ✭✭✭appledrop


    spookwoman wrote: »
    Seems they are pretty good at regular tests so hopefully will be under control soon

    Yea its in cases like that you realise how important it is that people are not mixing outside households + schools are closed.

    If everyone of those 42 people had just 2 close contacts thats over 150 people. If some of those had of been children in school you can see how numbers can quickly skyrocket in area.

    Thats why we all need to stay at home.


  • #1259
    petes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Are you seriously advocating saying to an asymptomatic person, that they have an active disease?

    They absolutely do not.

    It's scientifically and logically inaccurate use of language - on every possible level.

    As I said, it's a fashionable way to phrase it. That's all.

    People can be a carrier for all sorts of diseases. Stop talking nonsense.


  • #1260
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,249 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    54 deaths
    1335 cases


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  • #1261
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,067 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    kippy wrote: »
    What fools are talking about Zero Covid?
    The mind really boggles - the time for a Zero Covid strategy was back last February March when:
    1. Very little was known about the disease.
    2. There was literally no sign of a vacine being developed, yet alone tested/approved.

    Zero covid is a pointless strategy with so many door open and so much of the disease globally, particularily with the issues with Northern Ireland.
    The talk of this should stop and focus on getting the vaccine(s) out there as efficiently as possibly while unwinding resrictions once hospitals clear some more.

    Is the problem not that when they reduce restrictions numbers will go up because of the higher transmissibility of this British strain let alone alone other strains?
    So we’ll be back to square one if we open up too early without having quarantine in place and tougher enforcement of existing penalties etc.
    I get what your saying about the problem with NI but we have to work towards zero covid and get to a point where we are happy to open up taking into account the higher transmissibility.


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