HSE confirms a number of vials of COVID19 vaccine have had to be dumped

Over/under on somebody claiming they weren't dumped but given to friends and relatives? I've got 20 minutes.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Mistakes shouldn't happen with such a precious resource

It's unforgiveable

Somebody should be held accountable and lose their job for this 'mistake'

Then again it's Ireland so that will never happen

I'll accept a public flogging on RTE news. Might cheer us up a bit

the fact they said "a number" makes me think it was a lot.

disgrace.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

always read the instructions

I wonder what instructions did they receive?

Mistakes will be made alright, but it would be nice to know what the cause was.

22 vials should be at least 132 doses.

wheresthebeef wrote: »

The HSE are taking the flack for this but I highly suspect it was the nursing home that farked up here.
We’ve been told time and time again since December : you need a separate, pharmacy grade fridge with a temperature data logger for storing the vaccine and only the vaccine. Prepare it, test it, monitor it.
Plenty of muppets thinking they could get away with a domestic fridge, or just a thermometer in a cup of water.
I spent €1100 on a fridge and WiFi temperature data logger for a vaccine that I had custody of for less than 12 hours for this reason. That little box of vials was the most valuable thing I’ve ever held in my hands.
We had a site visit from vaccination team a week before and the day before to check we had everything in place. This should never have happened.

So, what could have happened? Did they just forget to put the tray in the fridge overnight? Seems unlikely.

Or maybe did they take the whole tray out at the start of the day and then went over the two hour limit for the stock they hadn't used up to that point?

plodder wrote: »

So, what could have happened? Did they just forget to put the tray in the fridge overnight? Seems unlikely.

Or maybe did they take the whole tray out at the start of the day and then went over the two hour limit for the stock they hadn't used up to that point?

Wait for the incident learning notice to come from this. It won't be long.

Lesson learned hopefully. Always going to be hiccups like this along the way unfortunately.

Its very unfortunate but 143000 people have been vaccinated so far - its inevitable that that there is going to be some mistakes along the way and if this 100 odd doses is the extent of it we won't be doing too bad.

plodder wrote: »

So, what could have happened? Did they just forget to put the tray in the fridge overnight? Seems unlikely.

Or maybe did they take the whole tray out at the start of the day and then went over the two hour limit for the stock they hadn't used up to that point?

The only thing I can see going wrong is that they put it in a domestic fridge outside the parameters of 2-8 degrees meaning the vaccine clock of 6 hours would have started sometime during the night making it unusable. No excuse for it, the requirements were drilled into us.
We had one job: keep the vaccine at the right temperature overnight until the vaccination team arrives on site.

lawrencesummers wrote: »

50 people in high risk category not getting vaccinated.

Yes of course this is the result of this mistake....
While things like this should not be happening (But sometime mistake will happen regardless)....

....Sure Joan, the staff Nurse, has already gathered the elderly resident's to make the announcement earlier this afternoon....


"Good morning all, unfortunately Mary the canteen lady, need some space to store here raspberry cheesecakes for todays deserts and removed all your vaccines from the fridge.....So you will now not be getting any vaccines for Covid ever.......but on a positive note, I do here the cheesecake is lovely....."

Where in reality, all this mistake has done, is delayed the rollout for these people by a few days and overall in Ireland the total rollout by a few hours...

Disclaimer:- None of the characters or events above are real and this story was based purely on a fictional nursing home....

And as I said these things should still not be happening.

hynesie08 wrote: »

Any confirmation that they didn't get vaccinated? We do have a reserve of vaccines, seems like this would be the perfect excuse to crack into them.

The statement says they managed to redirect 43 doses to partially vaccinate some people on site (hopefully all elderly) and the rest will need to wait for more supplies to come. Could be a week, hopefully less.

wheresthebeef wrote: »

The statement says they managed to redirect 43 doses to partially vaccinate some people on site (hopefully all elderly) and the rest will need to wait for more supplies to come. Could be a week, hopefully less.

OK, well obviously someone ****ed up along the way (and it should be thoroughly investigated) but at least it wasn't a complete washout.