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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • #1742
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    I'm all right Jack

    Fcuk everyone else.

    Yeah, because that's exactly what I said.

    Here, have one of these - :rolleyes:

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  • #1743
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    VonLuck wrote: »
    A shame you didn't get a chance to support the Irish tourist industry. I mean that's one of the big issues people have with lockdown, right?

    A shame most of those Irish shops were still closed so we couldn't support them eve if we wanted to.


  • #1744
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    My summer wasnt bleak. I went to France for 2 weeks in Aug. Best decision i've made within last 10 months.

    In hindsight I am very disappointed I didnt go anywhere between 1 July and 1 Aug... with everything that happened so far and no end in sight, i shouldve went to atleast 1 more place. Portugal woudlve been nice. El Portugal

    But I will admit. I also watched plenty of movies. I ran like 4 times outdoors i think, and then just gave up on it. my gf also cut my hair. tons of events :cool:

    Grrr. I'm alright Jac. Fúck everyone else. Yeah? Is that how it works?

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

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  • #1745
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1353845018491039745?s=20

    Listen to this absolute FEWEL!!!!! "You treat every covid case like a murder" , This is what mass hysteria and constant fear mongering does ...it's no wonder some people are afraid to walk on the street.

    You mean they haven't been doing that already? Making us feel like prisoners in our own homes for the last 11 months?


  • #1746
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/ClaireByrneLive/status/1353845018491039745?s=20

    Listen to this absolute FEWEL!!!!! "You treat every covid case like a murder" , This is what mass hysteria and constant fear mongering does ...it's no wonder some people are afraid to walk on the street.

    90% of Irish people want hotel quarantine?

    doesnt quote survey.

    Typical "expert" lol.


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  • #1747
    [Deleted User]
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    Silentcorner wrote: »
    Have a listen to Prof John Lee talking to Niall Boylan, just picked it off his twitter page.

    He make a number of excellent points, but one that stuck out was how we are counting Covid deaths, ordinarily, if someone has cancer and catches the flu and passes away we count that as a cancer death, now we are counting it as a Covid death...

    All 357,000 excess deaths in the countries participating in Euromomo?

    https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/


  • #1748
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    growleaves wrote: »
    Ben Bernanke has said that personal austerity and centralised corporate power will characterise the post-covid economy.

    Corporate consolidation across multiple industries is happening due to these lockdowns as big companies buy up assets from ruined SMEs. Amazon has been allowed to almost singlehandedly destroy retail with the blessing of the global establishment.

    Once we are all under the corporate thumb expect even more downward pressure on wages. We're on the road to pauperism and irrevocable state-corporatist control with fewer free and financially independent people than before.

    I have absolutely no idea what that post ^^^ has got to do with my post that you quoted. Sounds a bit Great Reset though...

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

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  • #1749
    Mitch Connor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,346 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Youve asked for it. :mad::mad::mad: HOW DARE YOU

    You really think that having a good time while millions of people live like hermits -is a fair idea?

    You need to stay at home, eat dominos, exercise outdoors, watch netflix. Until Leo or Dr Tony say otherwise.




    on a more serious note - ofcourse bloody go. I hear Portugal has made these WFH zones with all the amenities and great great views of the sea + weather, minimum stay 1 month.

    One of the guys I work with (Irish lad, irish company) has moved to Austria and is working from home there. Having a great time and will probably stay there medium/long term. Compary we work for don't care. he may as well be logged in from Austria as from Dublin, makes no odds.


  • #1750
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    You mean they haven't been doing that already? Making us feel like prisoners in our own homes for the last 11 months?

    I'm sorry you've felt like a prisoner in your own home for the last eleven months.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

    Gigs '25 - Spiritualized, Supergrass, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Queens of the Stone Age, Electric Picnic, Vantastival, Getdown Services, And So I Watch You From Afar



  • #1751
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Penfailed wrote: »
    I have absolutely no idea what that post ^^^ has got to do with my post that you quoted. Sounds a bit Great Reset though...

    Its a great post though :pac:


    PLCs buying up liquidating SME's assets is barely great reset though lols its called reality Pen. You dont actually think that liquidating SME's assets go to their employees or general public do you :)


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  • #1752
    BredonWimsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 227 ✭✭BredonWimsey


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    One of the guys I work with (Irish lad, irish company) has moved to Austria and is working from home there. Having a great time and will probably stay there medium/long term. Compary we work for don't care. he may as well be logged in from Austria as from Dublin, makes no odds.


    brilliant - sounds fab


  • #1753
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    90% of Irish people want hotel quarantine?

    doesnt quote survey.

    Typical "expert" lol.

    Yeah I want to know who they are polling there - is it a text poll on the late late or Joe Duffy?


  • #1754
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    One of the guys I work with (Irish lad, irish company) has moved to Austria and is working from home there. Having a great time and will probably stay there medium/long term. Compary we work for don't care. he may as well be logged in from Austria as from Dublin, makes no odds.

    I was in Vienna there in 2019. Top top class. I highly recommend.


  • #1755
    St.Spodo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭St.Spodo


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    90% of Irish people want hotel quarantine?

    doesnt quote survey.

    Typical "expert" lol.

    The survey was literally done on the show, the results of which were shown as an on-screen graphic minutes earlier.


  • #1756
    Mr. Karate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    "centralised corporate power will characterise the post-covid economy"

    Gee. You would think this might have been the plan all along or something.


  • #1757
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Its a great post though :pac:


    PLCs buying up liquidating SME's assets is barely great reset though lols its called reality Pen. You dont actually think that liquidating SME's assets go to their employees or general public do you :)

    He's edited out the quoted post. Still, it's got nothing to do with the relaxation of restrictions so I'm out of that discussion.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Pixies, Ride, Therapy?, Public Service Broadcasting, IDLES, And So I Watch You From Afar

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  • #1758
    ypres5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    I was in Vienna there in 2019. Top top class. I highly recommend.

    was supposed to go last april when the route from Shannon opened, but that was a year ago when I was young and full of hope


  • #1759
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,031 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Penfailed wrote: »
    He's edited out the quoted post. Still, it's got nothing to do with the relaxation of restrictions so I'm out of that discussion.

    Yes because what you were talking about got me thinking about something else and the then connection between the two things didn't seem obvious, except to me.

    The economic effects of the covid restrictions seem to be part of a managed collapse in the standard of living. Bernanke and the World Economic Forum are increasingly suggesting that ordinary people will be poorer and less free.

    So that is one more reason, a quite significant one, to call for a relaxation of restrictions.


  • #1760
    Captain_Crash
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,015 ✭✭✭Captain_Crash


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    One of the guys I work with (Irish lad, irish company) has moved to Austria and is working from home there. Having a great time and will probably stay there medium/long term. Compary we work for don't care. he may as well be logged in from Austria as from Dublin, makes no odds.

    My company are allowing this also! Many non national employees have gone home for the duration and they have no issue with any of us locals heading off ourselves!


  • #1761
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    growleaves wrote: »
    Yes because what you were talking about got me thinking about something else and the then connection between the two things didn't seem obvious, except to me.

    The economic effects of the covid restrictions seem to be part of a managed collapse in the standard of living. Bernanke and the World Economic Forum are increasingly suggesting that ordinary people will be poorer and less free.

    So that is one more reason, a quite significant one, to call for a relaxation of restrictions.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576


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  • #1762
    Kunta Kinte
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭Kunta Kinte


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    "centralised corporate power will characterise the post-covid economy"

    Gee. You would think this might have been the plan all along or something.

    Conspiracy theory forum is that way>>>>>>


  • #1763
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 10,049 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Mitch Connor wrote: »
    One of the guys I work with (Irish lad, irish company) has moved to Austria and is working from home there. Having a great time and will probably stay there medium/long term. Compary we work for don't care. he may as well be logged in from Austria as from Dublin, makes no odds.

    Hmm. he has so much more freedom there
    At the moment, a lockdown is in effect in Austria. Tourism and leisure travel are not possible.

    The following measures are currently in effect:

    Measures that are in effect at least until 7 February include:

    Only essential shops are open. Shoppers must wear FFP2 masks.
    You are required to stay at home and only leave the house for essential reasons.
    Museums are closed.
    A landing ban for flights from the UK, South Africa, and Brazil is in effect.
    Measures that are in effect at least until the end of February include:

    Hotels are closed to leisure travellers/tourists; only essential travel (e.g. for business that cannot be delayed) is permitted.
    Restaurants and bars can only offer takeout/delivery services. Dining in is not permitted. FFP2 masks are required when picking up food.
    You are required to keep a minimum distance of 2 m (6.5 ft) to people from other households.
    FFP2 masks are required on public transport.
    Events such as concerts, plays, exhibitions etc. are cancelled.
    Theatres, cinemas, gyms, pools, zoos, amusement parks, and most other culture and leisure facilities are closed.
    Cable cars and ski areas have been allowed to reopen. Hotels and restaurants are however still closed and entry regulations (quarantine requirement - see below) are in effect. De facto, skiing is only possible for locals.

    https://www.austria.info/en/service-and-facts/coronavirus-information


  • #1764
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,031 ✭✭✭growleaves


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576

    If someone in power says "the standard of living will decrease" then it is a fact that they are presiding over a managed reduction in the standard of living. Their policies have caused it, including their decision to make the pandemic the single global priority.

    I didn't say that this was a *deliberate* plan or conspiracy, you have intuited that part yourself.


  • #1765
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    growleaves wrote: »
    Yes because what you were talking about got me thinking about something else and the then connection between the two things didn't seem obvious, except to me.

    The economic effects of the covid restrictions seem to be part of a managed collapse in the standard of living. Bernanke and the World Economic Forum are increasingly suggesting that ordinary people will be poorer and less free.

    So that is one more reason, a quite significant one, to call for a relaxation of restrictions.

    Very good point. lets face it when retail shops were going bankrupt back in the summer last year we were told here by few posters that those businesses were on their way out even before covid. and that it was normal occurrence and nothing to be looked at.

    Now that you see hundreds of restaurants, pubs, small shops liquidating, can you really be so deluded to say that those were also on the way out before covid? Take a walk down the main street in your town, as long as its within 5 kms :pac: and look around.


    The longer restrictions go on for, the less you ll have to look at.


  • #1766
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,696 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    growleaves wrote: »
    Yes because what you were talking about got me thinking about something else and the then connection between the two things didn't seem obvious, except to me.

    The economic effects of the covid restrictions seem to be part of a managed collapse in the standard of living. Bernanke and the World Economic Forum are increasingly suggesting that ordinary people will be poorer and less free.

    So that is one more reason, a quite significant one, to call for a relaxation of restrictions.

    There's a Great Reset (WEF) thread on the go already.

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  • #1767
    KrustyUCC
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    Funny our next lockdown is lasting until March 5th apparently to mirror the North

    Easter Monday is 32 days later so not doubt that's the next extension

    You might see some retail open after Easter

    Now we have other bank holidays in May and June

    Tony & NPHET won't want any hospitality open for Bank Holidays so it will be interesting to see the government trying to justify keeping thins shut until June 8th at the earliest

    Couldn't have anything open before bank holidays just like last year where the only bank holiday we had hospitality open for was August


  • #1768
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    growleaves wrote: »
    If someone in power says "the standard of living will decrease" then it is a fact that they are presiding over a managed reduction in the standard of living. Their policies have caused it, including their decision to make the pandemic the single global priority.

    I didn't say that this was a *deliberate* plan or conspiracy, you have intuited that part yourself.

    Thats the reflex nowadays.

    if any1 says anything bad about lockdown or lockdown consequences, either a "gemmaroid" phrase thrown, or conspiracy theory tin foil hat or the classic "what would be your proposal??"

    Last is the most ironic as cost benefit analysis of lockdown has not been presented to the Irish public, yet lockdown supporters are eager to say "yeah its bad but what could be worse. whats your proposal?". without even knowing the factual costs of lockdowns to date.


  • #1769
    [Deleted User]
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    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Thats the reflex nowadays.

    if any1 says anything bad about lockdown or lockdown consequences, either a "gemmaroid" phrase thrown, or conspiracy theory tin foil hat or the classic "what would be your proposal??"

    Last is the most ironic as cost benefit analysis of lockdown has not been presented to the Irish public, yet lockdown supporters are eager to say "yeah its bad but what could be worse. whats your proposal?". without even knowing the factual costs of lockdowns to date.

    If there was anything other than conspiracy's being put forward a reasonable debate may break out


  • #1770
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,031 ✭✭✭growleaves


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    If there was anything other than conspiracy's being put forward a reasonable debate may break out

    Now you are just being contrary.

    If Bernanke thinks covid restrictions will ultimately lead people to becoming poorer and having less economic freedom that is very significant, and you don't have to try to debate it away - you could consider the implications of it instead.


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  • #1771
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,031 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Thats the reflex nowadays.

    if any1 says anything bad about lockdown or lockdown consequences, either a "gemmaroid" phrase thrown, or conspiracy theory tin foil hat or the classic "what would be your proposal??"

    Last is the most ironic as cost benefit analysis of lockdown has not been presented to the Irish public, yet lockdown supporters are eager to say "yeah its bad but what could be worse. whats your proposal?". without even knowing the factual costs of lockdowns to date.

    Personally I think people should be more suspicious of debt and more reluctant to take it on, since repayment is predicated on stability. We are not living in a stable world if never-before tried economic shutdowns can be brought in out of nowhere.


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