Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

Great constructive input. Thanks.

We were locked down from mid-March until mid-May. Restrictions were eased bit by bit and then lockdown was reinstated nationwide in October (yet schools remained open).

Can you state what exactly happened mid May to constitute end of lockdown?

Maybe you should try to be constructive for once rather than post vague statements "lockdown finished :pac:"

trellheim

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Try to get a basic grasp of demographics and statistics before calling people out

Most of the deaths occur in the over 65 population, of which they have almost 19 times more than Ireland.



Albeit this was up to late November

I'm well aware of the demos . Still utter BS and strawman arguments by spouters. go find other crackpot theories. 97,000 more deaths "haven't done much worse" . Keyboard warriors eh. I'm out.

Hector Savage

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1353864755186905092?s=20

Incredible, Christmas is 11 months away.

I can see no end to this sh1t...

FintanMcluskey

trellheim wrote: »

I'm well aware of the demos . Still utter BS and strawman arguments by spouters. go find other crackpot theories. 97,000 more deaths "haven't done much worse" . Keyboard warriors eh. I'm out.

Nah ya haven’t the foggiest if you start this emotional nonsense of 97000 more deaths.

FintanMcluskey

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1353864755186905092?s=20

Incredible, Christmas is 11 months away.

I can see no end to this sh1t...

Yep he said it last night on CB.

Ginger n Lemon

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1353864755186905092?s=20

Incredible, Christmas is 11 months away.

I can see no end to this sh1t...

Pfff he didnt say that surely?

Some posters here were laughing at comparisons to WW2.

Having said that, same posters were saying "business going bankrupt were on their way out even before covid". :rolleyes:

Ginger n Lemon

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Yep he said it last night on CB.

Fintan this is the new normal.

Get your papers in order quick if you want to see your relatives or else :pac:

opinionated3

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1353864755186905092?s=20

Incredible, Christmas is 11 months away.

I can see no end to this sh1t...

Wouldn't normally be a fan of boylan but I have to say I agree with him here. As another poster said elsewhere, it's like they've succeeded in "breaking" the people to the point where everyone just thinks "f**k it...... What can we do about it"

Loafing Oaf

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Yep he said it last night on CB.

It was conditional. He said this would probably happen if we introduced mandatory quarantine. May have been signalling his relucdtance to down that road...

hynesie08

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Niall_Boylan/status/1353864755186905092?s=20

Incredible, Christmas is 11 months away.

I can see no end to this sh1t...

Not what he said though is it...... Not that I'm shocked niall boylan would twist someone's words.

Ginger n Lemon

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

It's selective quoting. He did say it, but it was in the context of explaining why the government wouldn't be keen on imposing mandatory quarantines.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/tanaiste-mandatory-quarantine-not-ruled-out-but-if-brought-in-will-probably-be-for-a-year-40010937.html

Leo's quote

“So, I’m not saying we won’t be doing it, we are looking at it…. but people need to understand that it wouldn't be fully effective.”

typical politicians BS.

mandatory quarantine was overruled in Germany already good few months ago, as you cant be so stupid to assume that every1 who lands has covid.


Morale of the story? Irish independent generating clicks. Nothing to see here....another day, another BS article.

froog

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

No it didn’t

not being able to get a pint indoors does not = lockdown.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Can you state what exactly happened mid May to constitute end of lockdown?

Maybe you should try to be constructive for once rather than post vague statements "lockdown finished :pac:"

Restrictions began to ease, ergo, lockdown finished. Maybe your definition of lockdown differs from mine. We weren't locked down over summer either way.

Ginger n Lemon

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Indeed. I recall travelling around the country and supporting Irish businesses over the summer after restrictions eased while some of this thread's resident champions of the Irish economy were jetting off abroad.

Yes. Were you doing that before 29th of June or after?

BredonWimsey

where is the info re the 12 month international travel ban i cant find it now......

FintanMcluskey

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Indeed. I recall travelling around the country and supporting Irish businesses over the summer after restrictions eased while some of this thread's resident champions of the Irish economy were jetting off abroad.

I hope you didn’t reside in or travel to Offaly, Kildare or Dublin.

Those citizens didn’t get holidays

Ginger n Lemon

froog wrote: »

not being able to get a pint indoors does not = lockdown.

Brilliant.

not being able to get a haircut or buy clothes in the shop or eat in a restaurant also does not = lockdown?

Penfailed

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

I hope you didn’t reside in or travel to Offaly, Kildare or Dublin.

Those citizens didn’t get holidays

Are you forgetting about poor Laois? Yeah, that happened in August. Correct me if I'm wrong but summer lasts for three months. Plenty of time for holidays.

Ginger n Lemon

Penfailed wrote: »

Are you forgetting about poor Laois? Yeah, that happened in August. Correct me if I'm wrong but summer lasts for three months. Plenty of time for holidays.

Pen are you actually suggesting much holidaying was done between 18th of May and 29th of June in this country?

Ginger n Lemon

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Does summer end on the 29th of June?

Can you answer the question?

Ginger n Lemon

I am just not sure if people are joking or they are actually being serious when essentially saying that

not being able to get a haircut
not being able to eat in a restaurant
not being able to buy clothes in the shop
not being able to go to a cinema
not being able to go to a gym

not being able to get a pint


does not mean a lockdown...... what lives have people been living?

FintanMcluskey

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

I was in Dublin for a few nights. There were still some restrictions at that point, but it was nowhere near the police state dystopia this thread likes to portray things as.

I struggle to see how one could enter a county under severe mitigation measures to suppress the disease, for no essential purpose.

Do as I say, not as I do

I sometimes think those most “anti restrictions” are perhaps the most responsible

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Brilliant.

not being able to get a haircut or buy clothes in the shop or eat in a restaurant also does not = lockdown?

Correct. Now you're getting it.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

Pen are you actually suggesting much holidaying was done between 18th of May and 29th of June in this country?

No, I'm not.

Silentcorner

Have a listen to Prof John Lee talking to Niall Boylan, just picked it off his twitter page.

He make a number of excellent points, but one that stuck out was how we are counting Covid deaths, ordinarily, if someone has cancer and catches the flu and passes away we count that as a cancer death, now we are counting it as a Covid death...

https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-pgqhc-f822f8?utm_campaign=w_share_ep&utm_medium=dlink&utm_source=w_share#.YA9mRs73Vuo.twitter

Given the total case numbers, which is shakey at best given we actually have no idea how many people in this country has actually contracted the virus, the only thing we do know is that it is way above the total reported cases what actually is the case fatality rate, can we even accurately assume it?

Given that we know that the infection can be quiet nasty, but equally it can be very mild also...almost harmless to the young.

Is there a valid argument that the seriousness of this virus has been blown out of proportion? And therefore the reaction to it...the nearest country to us that hasn't gone down the draconian route is Sweden.

Penfailed

Ginger n Lemon wrote: »

I am just not sure if people are joking or they are actually being serious when essentially saying that

not being able to get a haircut
not being able to eat in a restaurant
not being able to buy clothes in the shop
not being able to go to a cinema
not being able to go to a gym

not being able to get a pint


does not mean a lockdown...... what lives have people been living?

I'm perfectly serious.

My wife cut my hair.
I can cook great meals.
I don't do much in the way of clothes shopping.
Plenty of films on TV.
Plenty of exercise outdoors.
Offies open.

No lockdown.

For the record, I also got a couple of proper haircuts, I went to restaurants, I bought clothes for my kids, I went to the cinema, (I don't do gyms) and I went to the pub last year. Terrible so it was.

Mr. Karate

MOH wrote: »

It's interesting to see Leo basically saying we should get rid of all restrictions.

He seems to think there's no point introducing a quarantine since it won't be 100% effective, since the border will be open. But none of the other restrictions are 100% effective, people will always evade them. So logically, he must be against all other forms of restrictions too.

And then further tries to justify not doing it because it would be so hard to reverse we'd be stuck with it for a year, and also we'd have to follow New Zealand's policies about how many people we let in. The first part is nonsense, and he seems to be conflating restricting travel with the zero-covid crap.

It's all a bit late now anyway, the time to have plans for a quarantine on the books was last autumn when it was clear what a huge proportion of cases was the new Spanish strain. That it never occurred to any of these clowns that the next variant might be more problematic and travel was an issue speaks volumes.

He's trying to position himself as the proverbial "Good Cop" and Micahel as the "Bad Cop".

For all intents he's trying to say "If I was in charge these lockdowns would be over" without actually saying it.

Then again later on today he can come out and claim we need more restrictions.

BredonWimsey

froog wrote: »

not being able to get a pint indoors does not = lockdown.

it does for some people - just the way it is - life is full of nuances and different people - interesting isnt it when there is a different perspective.


ALL OR NOTHING
Absolute mentality is so much fun

BredonWimsey

Penfailed wrote: »

I'm perfectly serious.

My wife cut my hair.
I can cook great meals.
I don't do much in the way of clothes shopping.
Plenty of films on TV.
Plenty of exercise outdoors.
Offies open.

No lockdown.

For the record, I also got a couple of proper haircuts, I went to restaurants, I bought clothes for my kids, I went to the cinema, (I don't do gyms) and I went to the pub last year. Terrible so it was.

thats your experience though which is great but some people see things differently.

BredonWimsey

Mr. Karate wrote: »

He's trying to position himself as the proverbial "Good Cop" and Micahel as the "Bad Cop".

For all intents he's trying to say "If I was in charge these lockdowns would be over" without actually saying it.

Then again later on today he can come out and claim we need more restrictions.

they are obsessed with reading social media (and prob the boards) they just want votes.