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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #9002
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    cjyid wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

    Good to see another nice drop on last week. It won't be at the pace some would like but everything is dropping steadily


  • #9003
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    All this panic and doom & gloom - what's to say we won't have another summer like 2020? Low case numbers, very little deaths, fewer restrictions.

    I think we might. There seems to be a seasonality to this thing, just like the flu, that science doesn't fully understand.


  • #9004
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1353002642256121858


  • #9005
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Great stuff

    Very good swabs and nice to see positivity rate

    The way things have been going the past week expect around 2300 cases today but i'd like to be surprised

    There's very little backlog so hopefully under 2000 today.

    ( The unknown here is that private testing is included in case numbers but possibly isn't included in swab numbers)


  • #9006
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    I think we might. There seems to be a seasonality to this thing, just like the flu, that science doesn't fully understand.

    Science says it's not possible to refer or infer seasonality when it has only been around for a single year.


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  • #9007
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    Science says it's not possible to refer or infer seasonality when it has only been around for a single year.

    Science does tell us that the virus is more likely to spread indoors and in poor ventilation (both of which are more likely to be the case in winter).


  • #9008
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Yes that would be great to see

    I'm a bit more cautious as even on Tuesday 1682 turned into 2001 cases

    cases do seem to be a few hundred more than swabs recently

    Yes maybe it's private testing is the difference alright

    1917 is close to 2000 for being under it but under 2000 would be a nice boost


  • #9009
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1353004118684659712


  • #9010
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Good to see another nice drop on last week. It won't be at the pace some would like but everything is dropping steadily

    I think it's good mentally to see it below 2000 even if not by much. Shows our efforts are making a difference


  • #9011
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    And even now they're only considering mandatory quarantine for 5 days for anyone without a not detected PCR test. I can't understand why they're so reluctant to do it tbh. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352984889818275840?s=19


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  • #9012
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    astrazeneca is a game changer. i heard there are 30 factories than can pump it out in england alone. seems to be a few issues right now, but they will sort it out i'm sure. the pfizer vaccine and the other 2 jab vaccines with very low refrigeration requirements were always going to be really awkward. as for the variants, i really haven't seen any solid evidence no vaccines work on them.

    i can't understand the doom and gloom at all. things are going to be pretty rosy in just a few months imo.


  • #9013
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    froog wrote: »
    astrazeneca is a game changer. i heard there are 30 factories than can pump it out in england alone. seems to be a few issues right now, but they will sort it out i'm sure. the pfizer vaccine and the other 2 jab vaccines with very low refrigeration requirements were always going to be really awkward. as for the variants, i really haven't seen any solid evidence no vaccines work on them.

    i can't understand the doom and gloom at all. things are going to be pretty rosy in just a few months imo.

    Problem is qualifying these lines in these factories to produce the vaccines, months of testing and protocols before they can produce anything to go to general market.


  • #9014
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55771223
    Israel, the United Arab Emirates, the UK, and the US are all well ahead of EU nations in terms of doses given per capita so far.

    Why is the EU's vaccination rate slower than that of those countries? Why won't AstraZeneca give the exact reason for lower level of production?


  • #9015
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    Eod100 wrote: »
    And even now they're only considering mandatory quarantine for 5 days for anyone without a not detected PCR test. I can't understand why they're so reluctant to do it tbh. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352984889818275840?s=19

    They are a shambles. Brazilian and South Africans are still being let into the country with no pcr tests and there is not even a legal requirement to test after 5 days. Just a pinkie promise that they will isolate of which a minuscule percent is followed up on.

    A year on now and they cant even organize a pre and post test and some check up measures. These should be the basics.

    Its compeletely unacceptale and grossly negligent.


  • #9016
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    political analyst wrote: »
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55771223



    Why is the EU's vaccination rate slower than that of those countries? Why won't AstraZeneca give the exact reason for lower level of production?

    Israel paid more to Pfzier directly to get more supply. UK approved vaccines ahead of EMA. Saudi Arabia could have well have paid for supply too. I think EU could have tried to source more and roll out has been slow but not exactly an exact same scenario in all these countries


  • #9017
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    If you’re a single household and form a support bubble (I hate that word!) with another single household, would the Guards give you trouble for driving to their house, as it’s not an essential journey?


  • #9018
    brick tamland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭brick tamland


    ginoginelli wrote: »
    They are a shambles. Brazilian and South Africans are still being let into the country with no pcr tests and there is not even a legal requirement to test after 5 days. Just a pinkie promise that they will isolate of which a minuscule percent is followed up on.

    A year on now and they cant even organize a pre and post test and some check up measures. These should be the basics.

    Its compeletely unacceptale and grossly negligent.

    If we try and enforce mandatory quarantine through the airports and ports, all this will lead to is the same people who are coming here for work or returning from wherever they were, coming through Belfast and commuting down.

    What would you do. Fly into Dublin and stay in a hotel for two weeks or fly into Belfast instead?

    Will all become pointless very quickly unless North do same (which DUP won't do)


  • #9019
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    brick tamland wrote: »
    If we try and enforce mandatory quarantine through the airports and ports, all this will lead to is the same people who are coming here for work or returning from wherever they were, coming through Belfast and commuting down.

    What would you do. Fly into Dublin and stay in a hotel for two weeks or fly into Belfast instead?

    Will all become pointless very quickly unless North do same (which DUP won't do)

    Done is better than perfect. Sure we won't stop it completely but it'll likely deter a lot and Belfast won't have the same connections that Dublin has so it's likely flying into UK airports or another hub airport and on to Belfast so cost will add up for people


  • #9020
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Israel paid more to Pfzier directly to get more supply. UK approved vaccines ahead of EMA. Saudi Arabia could have well have paid for supply too. I think EU could have tried to source more and roll out has been slow but not exactly an exact same scenario in all these countries
    The general progress of all the leading contenders in the autumn suggested that they would be ready to go within roughly the same timeframe. It was a sensible move, therefore, for the EU to spread their purchases over a range of vaccines. Israel, apart from the paying over the odds, is a really a test subject for mass vaccinations of Pfizer.

    What the EU could not have foreseen was Oxford and their data issues delaying approval, two of potentially the largest suppliers running into production issues at the same time and at a time of limited supplies and finally B.1.1.7 driven cases causing panic all over the EU. Perfect storm of sorts!


  • #9021
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    brick tamland wrote: »
    If we try and enforce mandatory quarantine through the airports and ports, all this will lead to is the same people who are coming here for work or returning from wherever they were, coming through Belfast and commuting down.

    What would you do. Fly into Dublin and stay in a hotel for two weeks or fly into Belfast instead?

    Will all become pointless very quickly unless North do same (which DUP won't do)

    Me personally? I wouldnt be a callous **** and risk other peoples by not quaranting. I would happily do the two weeks knowing the country was protecting itself and its citizens.

    Even if we dont have full co operation with the north we would still greatly reduce the amount of virus being reintroduced into the country.


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  • #9022
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    prunudo wrote: »
    Well believe it, heard a story recently of a Dublin hospital where unions are vetoing whether certain applicants were given positions or not. Predominantly it was not.
    Their hold on the hse and operation of hospitals needs to be investigated and brought to light.

    Is there anything to corroborate that story?


  • #9023
    coastwatch
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    DebDynamite wrote: »
    If you’re a single household and form a support bubble (I hate that word!) with another single household, would the Guards give you trouble for driving to their house, as it’s not an essential journey?

    I think you would be fine. You are allowed form a "support bubble", so if you meet a checkpoint, just explain you are travelling to your support.


  • #9024
    redarmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,858 ✭✭✭redarmy


    77 additional deaths confirmed.

    1,910 new cases confirmed.


  • #9025
    Be right back
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,357 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Very high number of deaths. May they rest in peace.


  • #9026
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    77 deaths, 1,910 cases. Good to see progress with cases. Sadly high deaths a consequence of very high cases a few weeks back. https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1353034600004673539?s=19


  • #9027
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    coastwatch wrote: »
    I think you would be fine. You are allowed form a "support bubble", so if you meet a checkpoint, just explain you are travelling to your support.

    The support bubble is only for those needing essential care. It's no longer for two homes or two friends to meet up.
    To support those who risk isolation, you can form a bubble with 1 other household (of any size) in certain situations.


  • #9028
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    DebDynamite wrote: »
    If you’re a single household and form a support bubble (I hate that word!) with another single household, would the Guards give you trouble for driving to their house, as it’s not an essential journey?

    If you live alone you can form a support bubble with another household


  • #9029
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    77 deaths, 1,910 cases. Good to see progress with cases. Sadly high deaths a consequence of very high cases a few weeks back. https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1353034600004673539?s=19
    Excellent case numbers reduction but let's see a trend first...


  • #9030
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Great to be under 2000 cases

    Nice psychological boost


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  • #9031
    DebDynamite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,723 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    The support bubble is only for those needing essential care. It's no longer for two homes or two friends to meet up.

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/3516d-support-bubbles/#who-can-form-a-support-bubble

    Where does it say that? Going by the information in the link above, you can form a support bubble if you live alone, so as not to risk social isolation. It doesn’t mention anything about essential care.


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