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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8972
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Well the simple answer will be just get the PCR test and you'll be fine wont have to mandatory quarantine. Seems to be more to be seen to be doing something which ultimately won't have that much of an impact

    If it's only done on basis of negative test it would seem to be case of being seen to be doing something alright.


  • #8973
    UDAWINNER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    This should be mandatory regardless of any pcr test and at their own expense. If we had this place at Christmas, our numbers would be a lot lower. If you don't want to pay it, then don't go abroad. Also why tourists coming here, nothing open anyway


  • #8974
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Presume you mean black. I think that was mainly due to socioeconomic reasons rather than physiology. I haven't heard anyone advocate that in media or research so far anyway.
    I have not read that the South Africa variant has specifically adversely affected black people. The BAME population have had a higher risk of death since the start. A disproportionate percentage of BAME healthcare workers in NHS have died compared to Caucasians healthcare workers which is not explained by the percentage of BAME NHS staff. The first 11 doctors to die in the UK were of BAME background which brought the issue to attention quite quickly.

    Data from ONS in the UK has shown that the higher death rate is more to do with higher risk of infection rather than an increased risk when infected but this is still being analysed. The higher incidence of diabetes and hypertension as well as vitamin D deficiency have been postulated as contributors to the increased mortality along with socioeconomic and cultural factors. There is now also the worry that this population have had the lowest uptake of vaccines.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/explainers-52969054

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/16/bame-people-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-than-white-people-study

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-bame-groups-far-less-likely-to-take-coronavirus-vaccine-sage-finds-12189151


  • #8975
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO


  • #8976
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,175 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Indestructable wrote: »
    There seems to be a concerted effort to drive everybody in the country into a mental health crisis. The relentless negativity, doom and depressing news being driven by the likes of RTE and some others is borderline criminal. We need positivity, but now Stephen Donnelly is on Twitter of all places saying how the vaccine schedule suffered a major setback.

    Yes, realism is important but it's hard to weed out fact from opinion with everything being thrown around at the moment.

    Think a break from the media these days can be helpful. It can be a lot to take in and sometimes feels like there's no respite from bad news.


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  • #8977
    UDAWINNER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The narrative was never that schools were safe, it was they were safer there is a difference. Again one year is not a legacy . Your point doesn’t stand if it did there would be no need for fines. Also it was mooted before we left restrictions in November/December that restrictions would be imposed again in January. People were aware what was going to happen after Christmas which I believe lead to the cases we now have.
    Your ‘selfish pr*ck ‘ comment is the usual nonsense I read here seeking to blame others for a respiratory virus.
    So the spanish variant,the british variant and the south african variant all just magically appeared here, no it was brought back selfish pricks who could not do without their foreign holiday, or had to come to socialise at christmas, really could have given it a miss for a year and now magically come up the mental health excuse to go abroad ffs.


  • #8978
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,624 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    They didn't specify 'young people' was referring exclusively to under 18s and were replying to a post about the potential for hospitals to fill up with 'younger people'.

    Fair enough.

    I do think more education is needed in the effects of Covid on obesity however.

    It’s a message that’s not articulated enough


  • #8979
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,139 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Gael23 wrote: »
    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO

    :rolleyes: It seems they can't win. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

    But it's only your opinion.


  • #8980
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,151 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    :rolleyes: It seems they can't win. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

    But it's only your opinion.

    It’s not against the law to leave the country


  • #8981
    UDAWINNER
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 860 ✭✭✭UDAWINNER


    Gael23 wrote: »
    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO
    should have been in place ages ago, why should foreign travel be exempt from the 5km rule as it is not essential.


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  • #8982
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,448 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Gael23 wrote: »
    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO

    They'll have checkpoints near the airports, they've one on the road into Dublin airport today.

    Ultimately they can't actually stop you, someone could be going to wherever they want and they'd just have to say its essential travel for whatever reason


  • #8983
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,957 ✭✭✭political analyst


    Many Irish doctors and nurses who worked abroad came home at the start of the pandemic to help. Wouldn't giving them permanent employment in the HSE increase the number of ICU beds?


  • #8984
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    They'll have checkpoints near the airports, they've one on the road into Dublin airport today.

    Ultimately they can't actually stop you, someone could be going to wherever they want and they'd just have to say its essential travel for whatever reason

    Yes, it’s essential travel because there’s a flight I’ve got to catch.....


  • #8985
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Gael23 wrote: »
    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO

    Its not the people going out that are the problem its the people coming in thats the problem.
    Why are we doing everything backwards in controlling this pandemic?


  • #8986
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    political analyst wrote: »
    Many Irish doctors and nurses who worked abroad came home at the start of the pandemic to help. Wouldn't giving them permanent employment in the HSE increase the number of ICU beds?

    Possibly depends on their expertise.

    ICU is a complex beast. A patient may require a whole host of specialists. Anaesthesiologist, nephralogist, cardiologists, haematologists, etc. Etc. Then you have the specialists nurses for 1 to 1 care, the imaging diagnostics such as radiographers, clinical staff maintenance of equipment, porters etc.

    I doubt we got enough of all these to return home. Especially when they'd have been needed where they were.


  • #8987
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    So who pays for this?

    The passenger pays in other countries and should here as well


  • #8988
    ginoginelli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    The ovewheliming majority of the scientific community are now calling for hotel quaratining from abroad.

    We have seen what happens when their advice is not followed. Let's pray the goverment listen to them this time and save alot of people from dying.


  • #8989
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Larry King RIP. Obviously he was highly vulnerable. Sad that two of his children died in the last year (non-Covid related).

    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/tv-radio-web/us-talk-show-host-larry-king-dies-aged-87-1.4466454


  • #8990
    TheValeyard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,446 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2021/01/22/lockdown-might-last-into-march-taoiseach-tells-nation-that-already-figured-this-out-4-weeks-ago/

    Didn't know they did real stories! Lol

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • #8991
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,297 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    political analyst wrote: »
    Many Irish doctors and nurses who worked abroad came home at the start of the pandemic to help. Wouldn't giving them permanent employment in the HSE increase the number of ICU beds?


    There seems to be a set number of ICU's no matter what budget or staff is brought in, I guess the unions set this number, no other reason it makes any sense.


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  • #8992
    h2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,400 ✭✭✭h2005


    Gael23 wrote: »
    MM saying Gardai will be at airports checking where people are going. That’s a step too far IMO

    Considering the population of the country can't travel beyond 5km at the moment unless for essential reasons I'd say about ****ing time. Also, a mandatory quartine should be in place for visitors to here. We can't do anything about those coming from the North but at least control what we can.


  • #8993
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,112 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    There seems to be a set number of ICU's no matter what budget or staff is brought in, I guess the unions set this number, no other reason it makes any sense.

    Well believe it, heard a story recently of a Dublin hospital where unions are vetoing whether certain applicants were given positions or not. Predominantly it was not.
    Their hold on the hse and operation of hospitals needs to be investigated and brought to light.


  • #8994
    ax530
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    I don't think the compulsory quarantine would work here by time all set up, contracts agreed and in place would not be needed.
    Hotel employees may like teacher not want to work in dangerous environment government would then need to back track, change plan ect
    I do know someone who traveled into county over Christmas period, stayed in a house with 2 family members for 3 weeks. No social activities or mixing.
    Private test few days before leaving their country and 5 days after arrival here did same when returning it can be done.


  • #8995
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    ax530 wrote: »
    I don't think the compulsory quarantine would work here by time all set up, contracts agreed and in place would not be needed.
    Hotel employees may like teacher not want to work in dangerous environment government would then need to back track, change plan ect
    I do know someone who traveled into county over Christmas period, stayed in a house with 2 family members for 3 weeks. No social activities or mixing.
    Private test few days before leaving their country and 5 days after arrival here did same when returning it can be done.
    Coveney said yesterday that there is high compliance with the negative PCR requirement for travel.


  • #8996
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Coveney said yesterday that there is high compliance with the negative PCR requirement for travel.

    And I can believe that. But that will not stop the baying for blood.


  • #8997
    cjyid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭cjyid


    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19


  • #8998
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    cjyid wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

    Good enough numbers again. 40% lower swabs than last Saturday.


  • #8999
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,650 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    cjyid wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

    Wonderful. 3133 last Saturday so another large drop.


  • #9000
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    cjyid wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1352997774657286146?s=19

    Great stuff

    Very good swabs and nice to see positivity rate

    The way things have been going the past week expect around 2300 cases today but i'd like to be surprised


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  • #9001
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    All this panic and doom & gloom - what's to say we won't have another summer like 2020? Low case numbers, very little deaths, fewer restrictions.


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