WandaVision - Disney+ (Spoilers)

AlmightyCushion · 23-01-2021 12:49AM

shawki wrote: »

But that’s not all it is, there’s 6 episodes left. The trailers actually show there’s a hell of lot more to the story than what they’ve showed so far.

This isn’t a throwaway series for casual viewing,
its been confirmed that it’s going to have ramifications for the next Spider-Man and Dr. Strange

We know there is a lot more going on and more of it will get unveiled but so far 95% of the runtime has been a poor sitcom. I didn't even watch the trailer (I avoid them nowadays, way too spoilery) but even I heard enough of it to know what it was going to be about. What I didn't know is that the sitcom parts would be so bad. Sure, it might be intentional that they aren't meant to be funny and maybe it is meant to be cheesy but that still doesn't make those parts of the show good.

Snotty · 23-01-2021 01:08AM

shawki wrote: »

This isn’t a throwaway series for casual viewing,

Everyone understands that, no one is missing the short hints along the way, no need to be patting anyone on the back for realising its not "I Dream of Jeannie 2". The problem is making people sit through 20 minute of crap for that 1 minute.
I thought I would get to see 3 this evening but alas no, but even if 3 is a masterpiece, doesn't change the rubbish that was 1 and 2

brevity · 23-01-2021 01:38AM

At first I didn’t really like it but now I do.

Birneybau · 23-01-2021 03:09AM

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Pretty much its because all sitcoms do this; add laugh tracks to the almost every utterance from the characters, no matter how pointless or unfunny. And its not a new thing for shows to make fun of this trope, I have to say "Simpsons did it!" decades ago.

Exactly, it heightens the un-reality of the whole thing. I'm enjoying it anyway. It's...off. Olsen and Bettany are fantastic as well, and, jeez, the 70s style suited Ms. Olsen.

FunLover18 · 23-01-2021 03:50AM

I actually didn't think that episode was as funny as the first two episodes ... It's almost like humour is completely subjective.

I still enjoyed it, a lot more going on and a lot more hints towards what's actually going on.

siblers · 23-01-2021 10:01AM

I don't see how anyone could find any of the episodes funny. Are they actually trying to make them funny? It feels more like parody to me

Episode 3 was much better though. Last ten minutes or so in particular

salmocab · 23-01-2021 10:15AM

siblers wrote: »

I don't see how anyone could find any of the episodes funny. Are they actually trying to make them funny? It feels more like parody to me

Episode 3 was much better though. Last ten minutes or so in particular

I don’t think they are meant to be funny

23-01-2021 10:47AM

They've ratcheted up the 'humour' to be more sinister. As in the 'residents', probably real people, not figments, are realising what's going on and will humour the almost all powerful being.

I'd really like Wanda to stop talking through her nose, but I think that's deliberate for the character she has invented

flazio · 23-01-2021 11:17AM

I won't spoil how but this episode has connections to Captain Marvel.

Nope, still don't have a clue WTF is going on.
Interestingly I've been watching the last series of Agents of S.H.E.I.L.D. on Disney+ (didn't bootleg it, last episode next Friday) and they had an interesting take on time jumps as well.

FunLover18 · 23-01-2021 12:54PM

siblers wrote: »

I don't see how anyone could find any of the episodes funny. Are they actually trying to make them funny? It feels more like parody to me

Episode 3 was much better though. Last ten minutes or so in particular

Parodies by definition are meant to be funny though. I don't think it is parody though, I think it's closer to homage.

Some bits I thought were funny in the first episode; Vision panicking when his colleagues said he was like a super computer, Vision saying he has no skeleton when his boss asks remarks that he better not have any skeletons in his closet. I didn't guffaw but they raised a chuckle. I've already mentioned that the magic show is episode two was great, not necessarily the jokes but Paul Bettany's performance was fantastic (FLOURISH!) I did laugh when Wanda transformed the piano into a cardboard cutout and everyone was laughing except the guy who said "that was my grandmother's piano". There are definitely intentional jokes in this show, just because people don't find them funny doesn't mean they aren't there. The whole thing with Wanda trying to keep Geraldine from seeing first her pregnancy and then the stork is a classic sitcom trope, it's not one I particularly enjoy but even if I don't find it funny, they're at least finding ways to tie it into the narrative and not just doing it because it's a trope. The sitcom format bold move given the divisive nature of comedy, let's hope they don't do a Mrs Brown's Boys episode.

siblers · 23-01-2021 01:29PM

Yeah, homage is more accurate than Parody.

One of the future episodes is meant to be based of off Modern Family, will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Thelonious Monk · 23-01-2021 06:10PM

Watched the 3rd episode, I mean I'll continue watching it but it's not very engaging and I'd mark it off as "sh*te" so far tbh.

scouttio · 23-01-2021 06:25PM

I think an issue may be the drawing out of the episodes weekly. Hard to know for sure obviously before seeing the whole thing but I remember reading along the lines that these shows are almost seen as long form marvel movies to an extent.
I get the feeling the show would sit better if binged in a few sittings, rather than 25 minutes a week. One poor or slow episode could be forgotten about quickly if you watch another 3 in a row straight after, but if it is the only new episode until next week, you dwell on it longer

E mac · 23-01-2021 08:27PM

Can't help but be reminded of that final part of Captain America the first avenger when he wakes up in 1940s but it's the 2000's ...

setanta1000 · 24-01-2021 12:24PM

So to offer a counterpoint to all the "Barry Norman's" on this thread

I'm watching this with my 12 year old and he loves it.

He completely gets that it's some sort of world that Wanda has created for herself to keep herself safe, he doesn't get any of the references to old sitcoms and he doesn't care - he loves trying to spot what's "normal" sitcom and what is Marvel world trying to break in - so based on my scientific survey of one it looks like Marvel have hit their target audience.

I quite like it as well, i also liked the piano gag, and i thought the stork was a laugh - but I really like the sinister edge that is there - like the doc saying he'll never go on holidays because he can never leave......quite Hotel California...

RobbingBandit · 24-01-2021 12:56PM

You are not watching a sitcom this is a play within a play sphere that is going to evolve very fast as has been said the ending of ep3 and the symbolism seen so far is showing that this is not what it seems and the fact that sone characters are willing to just go for the ride in the car seems to me they're more self aware than others.

Funny thought on the hedge trimmer was the neighbour trying to break the 4th wall???

Busi_Girl08 · 24-01-2021 01:28PM

RobbingBandit wrote: »

You are not watching a sitcom this is a play within a play sphere that is going to evolve very fast as has been said the ending of ep3 and the symbolism seen so far is showing that this is not what it seems and the fact that sone characters are willing to just go for the ride in the car seems to me they're more self aware than others.

Funny thought on the hedge trimmer was the neighbour trying to break the 4th wall???

Was wondering that too, thought at first it was a glitch in the matrix since her powers started going haywire during the pregnancy, but he seemed perfectly aware of what he was doing. Unless it was a deliberate attempt to throw Vision off?

Midnight_EG · 24-01-2021 02:55PM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

Was wondering that too, thought at first it was a glitch in the matrix since her powers started going haywire during the pregnancy, but he seemed perfectly aware of what he was doing. Unless it was a deliberate attempt to throw Vision off?

The people are real, they're stuck in Wandas little world... They're trying to get out.

24-01-2021 03:53PM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

The people are real, they're stuck in Wandas little world... They're trying to get out.

Is Vision real? That is the question.

Midnight_EG · 24-01-2021 05:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is Vision real? That is the question.

Of course not, she's holding onto him

24-01-2021 05:15PM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Of course not, she's holding onto him

He seems to be independent of her though. Who knows.

brianregan09 · 24-01-2021 05:24PM

I'd argue he's somewhat real , I mean they did copy alot of him in wakanda at the end of Infinity War

Ave Sodalis · 24-01-2021 05:49PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is Vision real? That is the question.

I think when it gets to the point that's in the trailer, where the neighbour asks

am I dead?

, that question will get answered.

RedRochey · 24-01-2021 05:58PM

Midnight_EG wrote: »

The people are real, they're stuck in Wandas little world... They're trying to get out.

But on the radio the man was saying "who's doing this to you Wanda?" so I think Wanda created the world but someone might be trying to infiltrate it

Snotty · 24-01-2021 05:59PM

Episode 3 slight better but feel like these 3 episodes should have really been condensed to 1

Midnight_EG · 24-01-2021 06:31PM

RedRochey wrote: »

But on the radio the man was saying "who's doing this to you Wanda?" so I think Wanda created the world but someone might be trying to infiltrate it

We know SWORD are infiltrating it as Monica (Geraldine) got in, and then thrown back out again.

kerplun k · 24-01-2021 10:49PM

E:3
That final scene looked a bit like an anomalous zone. I’m thinking Wanda created an impenetrable bubble that both shield and hydra are trying to infiltrate. I think Vision is alive, but not the Vision that was killed in infinity war, I think this Vision was pulled from an alternative timeline that’s creating the anomaly/fantasy world that we are watching.

Mr.Nice Guy · 24-01-2021 11:00PM

First half of episode 3 was poor. I thought it picked up in the second half. My main concern with this storyline is I don't see how the payoff can be remotely worth it. It feels like a one episode idea (or at most a two-parter) that is being dragged out far too long.

24-01-2021 11:52PM

There was enough timey wimey universe hopping going on for a Vision to come through

FunLover18 · 25-01-2021 02:27PM

I have a theory ... Or at least half a theory. I'm going to spolier tag it.

Herb was about to say something in episode 3 "she came here because we're all ...", I think they're all dead. The sign for the town looked old and not well looked after, I wonder if maybe a small town got destroyed during the final battled in Endgame. Wanda is the Avenger who has experienced the most personal trauma and so to see this small innocent town completely obliterated combined with her grief for Vision, she's recreated the town and the people. I'm not sure why Agnes would be trying to hide it, maybe she's afraid they'll die again. I think maybe SWORD think someone is doing to Wanda, has trapped her and they're trying to infiltrate to save her, not knowing she's doing it to herself.

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