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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #8702
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I watched BBC NI news at 6pm tonight, and they had an interview with a man who has throat cancer and now suspected bowel cancer, but he has been told his operation has been put on hold for the forseeable future as they have to deal with Covid.

    What makes one illness so important at the exoense of other important ones?

    I found it shocking that they still aren't trying to do important cancer ops as well. This delay, and other like it, will be a death knell for many.

    They should be trying and they probably are trying but until Covid is under control, it is impossible to deliver anything near a normal health service.

    Maybe the surgeon has Covid. Maybe four more surgeons also have Covid and four more surgeons are close contacts. Maybe the anaesthetist has Covid and half of his/her colleagues too. Maybe he needs an ICU bed after his surgery and there are none. Maybe the number of cases of Covid in the hospital he was scheduled to have surgery is so high that are no general surgery beds either. Maybe there is an outbreak on the surgery ward. Maybe there are no nurses to look after him pre and post op as about 100,000 NHS staff are currently off work at the moment due to Covid. Maybe the concern is his risk of catching Covid in hospital which will dramatically increase his peri-operative mortality rate.

    It is not Covid versus everything else. It is not that Covid is more important. It’s all of the above. Until Covid is suppressed, everything else will suffer. It’s another reason for needing to get Covid under control.


  • #8703
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭jams100


    Can someone provide some evidence of this uk being more deadly?
    Other than it being more transmisable is it actually more deadly?
    It seems all the newspapers are just running the same line with no material evidence in the article. (Not surprising really, I guess)
    Is it just more deadly because more people are contracting it and that is putting more pressure on hospitals etc?


  • #8704
    Steve012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 938 ✭✭✭Steve012


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    That's the thing, I mean Trump got it at 74.


    He's overweight, he eats crap ... and he kicked it in 2 days, they gave him some drug called regeneron (sp?)



    Can't they just go all out on that fucking drug instead of spending billions on fucking vaccines that don't fucking work!!!!


    I mean Jesus fucking H fucking Christ!!!

    Did he have it though?


  • #8705
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Apologies if posted already but positivity below 10% is a big positive. I think.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


  • #8706
    BlondeBomb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭BlondeBomb


    https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1352719891632181248

    COVID-19: AstraZeneca to cut COVID-19 vaccine delivery to EU by 60%, reports | World News | Sky News

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-astrazeneca-to-cut-covid-19-vaccine-delivery-to-eu-by-60-reports-12195923


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  • #8707
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Immediacy. Most of the people in ICU with covid are dead without it.

    The man with bowel and throat cancer might be 50/50 if operated on today and 30/70 if operated in a months time but he will probably still be here in a months time. Its not as immediate a risk. They won't operate on him if they don't have icu capacity.

    It really sucks.

    Yes that's the sad truth. Caused by people behaving selfishly and recklessly and giving two fingers to all those trying to do the right thing. Some of them seem to think they're being brave mavericks standing up to some kind of oppressive power, when they're actually weak willed idiots putting their fellow citizens at risk and trampling with no compassion all over people's livelihoods and futures.


  • #8708
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭jams100


    BlondeBomb wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1352719891632181248

    COVID-19: AstraZeneca to cut COVID-19 vaccine delivery to EU by 60%, reports | World News | Sky News

    https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-astrazeneca-to-cut-covid-19-vaccine-delivery-to-eu-by-60-reports-12195923

    Good news is at least the UK wont be affected by that cut, so the North won't be effected. The norths gain is also our gain in this case


  • #8709
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    We're 2 jurisdictions on the 1 Island. New Zealand is 1 spread out over 2 islands.
    That small border you mention is 500km long.... That's not small at all.
    You're dismissing a large issue (the border) as something trivial and small, or as you say.... tiny. How do you police a tiny border of 500km with 300 crossing points? Maybe build a wall? Could get Trumps wall cheap now that Joe Biden has stopped it.

    Checkpoints and massive fines.


  • #8710
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,639 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Steve012 wrote: »
    Did he have it though?
    UrbanFret wrote: »
    ]Did he even have it?:confused:

    Yeah but, did he die?


  • #8711
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    The Journal have a question: Should there be mandatory quarantine for people who arrive in Ireland from abroad? and over 90% have said yes.

    I think this is a timely and excellent question that should prompt swift government action....if this were January 2020.

    The question now should be exactly how much time leading government officials should spend in prison for destroying the country while letting the virus spread almost unopposed. I don't care if it is incompetence or malice, prison must be had.


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  • #8712
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    We can wish for a lot of things. It doesn't necessarily follow that our desires are realistic. Mandatory quarantine would be really useful. How the fck we'd implement though is beyond me? I just wish we'd invested resources and did a full review on what our options are.

    It also feels like politicians are reluctant to backtrack on their previous position no matter the cost. Some of their dismissals of others concerns have been very condescending.


  • #8713
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Ah **** off Tubridy with this depressing ****, it's Friday night and we are all miserable enough. We need something upbeat.


  • #8714
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Why in Gods name would you ever resort to the Late Late Show for uplifting escapism?


  • #8715
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Apologies if posted already but positivity below 10% is a big positive. I think.

    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    I can't understand how so many people are coming forward for testing since we are on symptomatic people only.

    I guess there is amss testing in nursing homes and the psoitivity there is around 2% but mass testing there is only a few thousand cases a day.


  • #8716
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    The ladies story on late late show is so sad. Crying her eyes out.


  • #8717
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The ladies story on late late show is so sad. Crying her eyes out.

    Doesn't sit well with me, they are taking advantage of her to peddle their doom. Nobody asking tubridy how he was one of the first to get it.


  • #8718
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,786 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Henley Tangy User wrote: »
    Caused by people behaving selfishly and recklessly and giving two fingers to all those trying to do the right thing. Some of them seem to think they're being brave mavericks standing up to some kind of oppressive power, when they're actually weak willed idiots putting their fellow citizens at risk and trampling with no compassion all over people's livelihoods and futures.

    But by the laws of how this virus spreads around, many of those who acted selfishly and stupidly now have loved ones in hospitals and ICUs because of their actions.

    Of course it will have spread to strangers in a more roundabout way, but if they caught it, then its inevitable that they gave it to close relatives first.


  • #8719
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I can't understand how so many people are coming forward for testing since we are on symptomatic people only.

    I guess there is amss testing in nursing homes and the psoitivity there is around 2% but mass testing there is only a few thousand cases a day.

    Infection rate is that bloody high. In the briefing on Thursday when they excluded serial testing NPHET had estimated community positivity at around 13%. That's far too high to have any accurate handle on the true number of infections within the community. If deaths and hospitalisation are a decent proxy we may had more infections in the third wave than the first!


  • #8720
    Roger_007
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    The ladies story on late late show is so sad. Crying her eyes out.

    Irish people love to wallow in misery. The LLS is supposed to be a light entertainment show, an opportunity to take our minds off all the gloom that surrounds us for an hour or two. Instead that LLS uses that opportunity to heap more misery on us.


  • #8721
    patnor1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,301 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    The current wave if you want to call it that is mainly influenced by the weather.


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  • #8722
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Ah **** off Tubridy with this depressing ****, it's Friday night and we are all miserable enough. We need something upbeat.

    You tuned into the LLS and you’re surprised it’s depressing? Turn on GN.


  • #8723
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Doesn't sit well with me, they are taking advantage of her to peddle their doom. Nobody asking tubridy how he was one of the first to get it.

    Their not taking advantage of her. See someone cry their eyes out, would you reconsider any meet-ups or parties this weekend? People just don't get it. Her husband that died was only 51. Far too young to die.


  • #8724
    NeuralNetwork
    Closed Accounts Posts: 727 ✭✭✭NeuralNetwork


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Irish people love to wallow in misery. The LLS is supposed to be a light entertainment show, an opportunity to take our minds off all the gloom that surrounds us for an hour or two. Instead that LLS uses that opportunity to heap more misery on us.

    This is where remote controls, Netflix, Prime, etc come in.

    I've absolute sympathy for the person and their situation but I am aware of how serious the national emergency is, fully taking care of ensuring my contribution to this will be to reduce the R0 number. However, I think at this stage I need to switch off for the sake of mental health.

    Watched Fleabag instead!


  • #8725
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You tuned into the LLS and you’re surprised it’s depressing? Turn on GN.

    Herself put it on, it's off again.


  • #8726
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,088 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    patnor1011 wrote: »
    The current wave if you want to call it that is mainly influenced by the weather.

    Waves are caused by lockdowns. It would be a continuous increase in infections and deaths etc if there was no lockdown.
    On the plus side that would mean herd immunity is reached quicker- as long as the virus didn’t mutate quick enough to negate any immunity gained in the population.
    On the negative side, ya know, deaths and cases etc.


  • #8727
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Irish people love to wallow in misery. The LLS is supposed to be a light entertainment show, an opportunity to take our minds off all the gloom that surrounds us for an hour or two. Instead that LLS uses that opportunity to heap more misery on us.

    It's a talk show, not an entertainment show. You can switch channels instead of watching the misery.


  • #8728
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,404 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Their not taking advantage of her. See someone cry their eyes out, would you reconsider any meet-ups or parties this weekend? People just don't get it. Her husband that died was only 51. Far too young to die.

    No you don't get it. The sort of people ignoring restrictions right now are not going to be sat in watching the late late show. RTE are broadcasting this for ratings and social media "buzz" for want of a better word. It's not to scare people who don't give a s**t into compliance.


  • #8729
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    HSE operations report 22/1.

    Covid cases hospitalised as of 8pm 1846 - decrease from 1923.
    8 hospitals with over 100 cases.

    ICU confirmed Covid cases as of 6.30pm 215 - increase from 211.
    5 deaths in ICU 24 hours up to 8am.
    Confirmed Covid cases ventilated 137 as of 6.30pm - increase from 135.

    Available ICU beds 28 as of 6.30pm.
    12 ICUs with no available beds.
    Total open and staffed ICU beds 345.


  • #8730
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    No you don't get it. The sort of people ignoring restrictions right now are not going to be sat in watching the late late show. RTE are broadcasting this for ratings and social media "buzz" for want of a better word. It's not to scare people who don't give a s**t into compliance.

    I agree people who don't care won't be watching it. But even if you listened to the lady who said that her husband just didn't feel right at first. Somebody might listen and might self isolate if they didn't feel right.

    It's a very scary virus, didn't feel too good, and dead three weeks later.


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  • #8731
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    I can't understand how so many people are coming forward for testing since we are on symptomatic people only.

    I guess there is amss testing in nursing homes and the psoitivity there is around 2% but mass testing there is only a few thousand cases a day.

    I think the highest positivity rate was circa 25%. If only the other 75% who may have had other symptoms did not come forward.

    But anyway - it seems that every silver lining has a cloud.


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