Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

carr62 · 22-01-2021 12:25PM

I guess for us here, it's not a matter of the logistics of actually sitting the exam on the day, but the fact that with such bad internet ( apparently fibre broadband might be available to us here in 5 years!!) my kids are getting very little of the online classes that the teachers have been running. They are managing, with the bit of connection they have, and going through their text books by themselves but I certainly don't think it's enough to see them through success in the Leaving Cert. I'm hoping for some kind of assessment based on what they've done up til now over the past 5 years but I'm probably clutching at straws here !

Icyseanfitz · 22-01-2021 12:26PM

Deleted User wrote: »

DES didn't open schools based on the advice of NPHET after New Year They still planned to until NPHET issued their recommendation. Until NPHET issue official advice to delay opening, which they will in all likelihood, they are still going with the previous timeline

I don't recall nphet making any statement regarding the opening of schools after Christmas, or long before that tbh. I could be wrong.

doublejobbing 2 · 22-01-2021 12:29PM

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

wirelessdude01 · 22-01-2021 12:31PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

The PUP rubbish is boring at this stage. Also nasty comment with regards to direct provision.

tabby aspreme · 22-01-2021 12:36PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

I don't recall nphet making any statement regarding the opening of schools after Christmas, or long before that tbh. I could be wrong.

During the Webinar for teachers, and the Dept of Ed earlier this week, Ronan Glynn was asked was it safe for schools to reopen, he did not say in his reply, that it was, so teachers took that as a No.

There is a huge level of covid in creches, over 20 creches in Dublin alone, reported cases in one day this week.

JP100 · 22-01-2021 12:38PM

Think SEN pupils will return to classrooms the week beginning Monday the 1st of February. With the rest of the school population then returning to classrooms after the mid term break.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-01-2021 12:39PM

TheValeyard wrote: »

Just drop the JC frees up a huge amount of space for students to sit the LC

Think that's going to happen regardless, can't see JC happening

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-01-2021 12:41PM

TTLF wrote: »

Yeah they're talking about how Orals and Practical's are going to work because they don't see them taking place currently when they're supposed to. Also you're correct with that meeting with the Education stakeholders, Norma was saying how she was "Waiting on the ISSU survey" to make a decision, which I posted earlier in the thread, had an overly confident level of "Traditional exams cannot be sat" influence from 20,000 people. :pac:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKUaP1Zh49U/
Here's the post to the oral/practical's since I can't find the original article.

Students and teachers currently wasting their time preparing for them so. Joke

They prob do exact same as last year, give full marks for orals and practicals only to later take them away again.

The Wordress · 22-01-2021 12:44PM

JP100 wrote: »

Think SEN pupils will return to classrooms the week beginning Monday the 1st of February. With the rest of the school population then returning to classrooms after the mid term break.

I can't see SEN classes going back that quick with case number being so high and the situation in hospitals being dire.

I do think we will go back before Mainstream though.

penny piper · 22-01-2021 12:46PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

Teachers are working from home...both my children are secondary teachers and doing their very best (like other teachers), in the circumstances....You should retrain as a teacher.....if you feel they are overpaid/underworked...I think you would be suprised......you are a very stupid person if you think there is no risk in a school environment at the moment....to both student's/student's families and Teachers/teacher's families...

22-01-2021 12:47PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

I don't recall nphet making any statement regarding the opening of schools after Christmas, or long before that tbh. I could be wrong.

They didn't make any official statement, but made their advice in a letter to the government dated 5th January. There as no update on this advice in the latest letter dated the 14th January

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/ba4aa0-letters-from-the-cmo-to-the-minister-for-health/#january-2021

Icyseanfitz · 22-01-2021 12:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

They didn't make any official statement, but made their advice in a letter to the government dated 5th January. There as no update on this advice in the latest letter dated the 14th January

https://www.gov.ie/en/collection/ba4aa0-letters-from-the-cmo-to-the-minister-for-health/#january-2021

So nphet have made no recent statement regarding the safety of schools.

JP100 · 22-01-2021 12:51PM

The Wordress wrote: »

I can't see SEN classes going back that quick with case number being so high and the situation in hospitals being dire.

I do think we will go back before Mainstream though.

I agree they shouldn't be back as early as February the 1st but they'll be a massive drive by the government to do so, so that they can stop a light being shone on the other myriad inadequacies in the system.

TTLF · 22-01-2021 12:52PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Students and teachers currently wasting their time preparing for them so. Joke

They prob do exact same as last year, give full marks for orals and practicals only to later take them away again.

Mad to think my mocks are a month away and Idk what is happening :pac:

billy_beckham · 22-01-2021 12:53PM

c montgomery wrote: »

My sister is on school board and said they are working on an assumption that schools will be closed until case's are below 300 a day.
They are thinking Feb 22nd

Curious as to where that figure was plucked from?
Dublin alone could have that number for another 6 weeks? I really hope that's not the threshold for returning, in Oct/Nov it was 1000+ and schools were running..

daheff · 22-01-2021 12:57PM

billy_beckham wrote: »

Curious as to where that figure was plucked from?
Dublin alone could have that number for another 6 weeks? I really hope that's not the threshold for returning, in Oct/Nov it was 1000+ and schools were running..

Latest figures are that numbers reduce 7-10% a day, so halving every 7-10 days. With numbers at 2,500 we'd be looking at mid-end Feb to get daily cases to 300ish

Stateofyou · 22-01-2021 12:57PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Why did you use the term "Irish people"?

They won't change them now, that would be admitting they had fcuked up. It will be done under the guise of a smaller reshuffle.

Ha, I'm not sure, I think because I was reading loads of articles from the UK and US this morning so I was probably subconsciously distinguishing from the different shít shows.

Crocodile Booze · 22-01-2021 12:58PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

Original, innovational, unfamiliar, unprecedented, avant-garde, experimental, inventive and ingenious post.

TheValeyard · 22-01-2021 12:59PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

Why didn't anyone else on this thread think of this idea already!!!!!

billy_beckham · 22-01-2021 01:00PM

daheff wrote: »

Latest figures are that numbers reduce 7-10% a day, so halving every 7-10 days. With numbers at 2,500 we'd be looking at mid-end Feb to get daily cases to 300ish

I understand that, but why 300? Why THAT number? Because it aligns with the midterm!!

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-01-2021 01:03PM

TTLF wrote: »

Mad to think my mocks are a month away and Idk what is happening :pac:

It's very annoying. Most language classes wud be increasing oral prep now, cud be all in vain.

doublejobbing 2 · 22-01-2021 01:04PM

penny piper wrote: »

Teachers are working from home...both my children are secondary teachers and doing their very best (like other teachers), in the circumstances....You should retrain as a teacher.....if you feel they are overpaid/underworked...I think you would be suprised......you are a very stupid person if you think there is no risk in a school environment at the moment....to both student's/student's families and Teachers/teacher's families...

You think teachers have been in hiding since last March? You think none of them were in a pub or a house party over Christmas? All single teachers out there haven't dared hop on Tinder in nearly a year? From what I've heard there's plenty of teachers doing absolutely FA over lockdown and it doesn't surprise me, they were the same union dependent do nothings when I was in school as well (secondary that is. The gulf of responsibility between primary and secondary was fairly plain to see)

I agree teachers with vulnerable family members should be allowed opt out. But fit and healthy teachers in their 20's to 50's are taking the piss. Average teacher must take home what, 800 per week? Cut that to 350 and see how afraid they are of the virus then.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Also nasty comment with regards to direct provision.

:pac::pac:

You're meant to leave this blinkered nonsense behind when you leave college and realise your taxes are paying for this shiet.

khalessi · 22-01-2021 01:04PM

billy_beckham wrote: »

Curious as to where that figure was plucked from?
Dublin alone could have that number for another 6 weeks? I really hope that's not the threshold for returning, in Oct/Nov it was 1000+ and schools were running..

In October we were not dealing with multiple virulent strains heading out direction, such as B117 etc.

We also didnt have a 40% cut to cleaning budget.

As it stands with the latest strains, a face covering is not enough.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 22-01-2021 01:05PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Put all the teachers on 350 a week same as the rest of us who have been laid off from low risk workplaces over a virus that is generally so benign in most under 60's they barely know they have it. See how fast their "concerns" last then once their bloated paycheque is cut by a half to two thirds. They would give direct provision residents a run for their money in the entitlement stakes.

Back in my day, WUMmery was so much better than this.

This is an insult to all the hardworking WUMs out there

daheff · 22-01-2021 01:06PM

billy_beckham wrote: »

I understand that, but why 300? Why THAT number? Because it aligns with the midterm!!

No idea...you quoted c Montgomery who posited that number.

daheff · 22-01-2021 01:08PM

Crocodile Booze wrote: »

Original, innovational, unfamiliar, unprecedented, avant-garde, experimental, inventive and ingenious post.

You may not like this suggestion, but it doesn't make it wrong.

I'd agree that if teachers were put onto a lower wage because of not being in schools due to the pandemic that teachers would be more eager to return to schools.

Stateofyou · 22-01-2021 01:08PM

Instead of all of us guessing what is going to happen with school returns, government in all their wisdom from what should be groups of expertise surrounding them, should be able to publish guidelines of what will happen when we're at very specific ranges of criteria.

This so-called 'leadership' is just abysmal. There is no excuse for not being able to put forward concrete guidelines so people know what to expect and when. FFS.

monkeybutter · 22-01-2021 01:09PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

You think teachers have been in hiding since last March? You think none of them were in a pub or a house party over Christmas? All single teachers out there haven't dared hop on Tinder in nearly a year? From what I've heard there's plenty of teachers doing absolutely FA over lockdown and it doesn't surprise me, they were the same union dependent do nothings when I was in school as well (secondary that is. The gulf of responsibility between primary and secondary was fairly plain to see)

I agree teachers with vulnerable family members should be allowed opt out. But fit and healthy teachers in their 20's to 50's are taking the piss.

:pac::pac:

You're meant to leave this blinkered nonsense behind when you leave college and realise your taxes are paying for this shiet.

it seems the education system has failed you, no need to be bitter about it

doublejobbing 2 · 22-01-2021 01:17PM

Crocodile Booze wrote: »

Original, innovational, unfamiliar, unprecedented, avant-garde, experimental, inventive and ingenious post.

OK. Think of it like this.

You're a 35 year old teacher and mother of two healthy children. Your husband is a bus driver. Neither of you live with an elderly relative.

Why does he have to work, but she doesn't? The chances of either suffering anything worse than a bad cold are negligible. In fact the chances of any of them not suffering even a headcold are around 80%.

Smacruairi · 22-01-2021 01:17PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

IAverage teacher must take home what, 800 per week?

Thsts the funniest bit of the whole thing.

Yeah all teachers are on 60k a year. Lol

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01