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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ShyMets wrote: »
    I'm kind of one those. Until last December I hadn't been to see my GP in over a 11 years. The only reason I went is because they wouldn't my prescription for an asthmatic inhaler without a visit.

    My reasons for not going for 11 years is that simply I haven't needed to go. Although granted I know i should go more often

    A recent British documentary with Dr Ronx, a female, demonstrated that men are 44% more likely to die than women from Covid, relative to all other risk aspects and that they should be prioritised. I say this as a female in a relatively vulnerable category, that younger, healthier men are probably more likely to die from it than I am.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    A recent British documentary with Dr Ronx, a female, demonstrated that men are 44% more likely to die than women from Covid, relative to all other risk aspects and that they should be prioritised. I say this as a female in a relatively vulnerable category, that younger, healthier men are probably more likely to die from it than I am.


    It really is the oddest of illnesses, so many different symptoms, outcomes and issues, mind boggling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭seamie78


    A recent British documentary with Dr Ronx, a female, demonstrated that men are 44% more likely to die than women from Covid, relative to all other risk aspects and that they should be prioritised. I say this as a female in a relatively vulnerable category, that younger, healthier men are probably more likely to die from it than I am.

    cant imagine vaccinating men first going down well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,577 ✭✭✭JTMan


    https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352170736056627200

    - Retail sectors likely to remain shut until the end of February.
    - Restaurants may be shut until May.
    - Schools will be looked at separately.

    Translation? Mid Feb for schools/construction, 1 March for non-essential retail/gyms, 1 May for indoor restaurants?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    ShyMets wrote: »
    I'm kind of one those. Until last December I hadn't been to see my GP in over a 11 years. The only reason I went is because they wouldn't my prescription for an asthmatic inhaler without a visit.

    My reasons for not going for 11 years is that simply I haven't needed to go. Although granted I know i should go more often

    Trouble is you may detect a problem much later than you otherwise would have. More importantly though imo is you'll know what your GP is actually like. Last thing you want is there being a health problem and you're stuck with a crappy GP.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭OwenM


    Ce he sin wrote: »
    If my maths is correct that would mean that 1% are no longer alive.

    You'd go up on a plane if you had a 1% chance of being splattered along the ground would you?

    If that plane was taking you out of jail, and you only had to take that flight once ever, would you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    A recent British documentary with Dr Ronx, a female, demonstrated that men are 44% more likely to die than women from Covid, relative to all other risk aspects and that they should be prioritised. I say this as a female in a relatively vulnerable category, that younger, healthier men are probably more likely to die from it than I am.


    This is something that is almost never mentioned in major news outlets.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    PmMeUrDogs wrote: »
    Are they able to do that, though? Surely if the patient has one or more of the listed illnesses making them vulnerable, they are given the vaccine without the GP picking and choosing?


    One of my parents is very high risk - lung disease, heart problems, other issues. They're currently in hospital and have been for a few weeks (and were also in for the month of December). They are very high risk but because they're not old, they're far enough down on the list to receive the vaccine even though their consultants have said covid could easily kill them. They're asking their consultant today about vaccination because they're terrified, especially with being so ill they keep being hospitalized.

    That's absolutely mad. It is very difficult to be exact about priority. Which is more risky, heart disease, cancer, a very severe autoimmune disease etc. I don't envy anyone actually sorting it out. But if, eg, a person who doesn't attend medical services much, but has some very severe underlying disease whose relatively silent symptoms they were studiously ignoring, is indeed not going to get onto a GP priority list in the same way as somebody with who has been under continuous medical care. Advanced liver disease, underlying cancers, etc might be examples.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    ek motor wrote: »
    This is something that is almost never mentioned in major news outlets.

    It would cause too much outrage from
    My own gender :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 859 ✭✭✭OwenM


    It would cause too much outrage from
    My own gender :D

    Yeah, no sympathy for "The Patriarchy"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    OwenM wrote: »
    If that plane was taking you out of jail, and you only had to take that flight once ever, would you?

    Base rate of 1 in 12 million versus 1 in 100? You'd have to be pretty fcking desperate to take on such an increased risk. We talking some post apocalyptic prison or something?

    Even on the absolute scale 1 in 100, if that's what we're going with, is a very high level of risk for anything in our society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    I see that Galway is the one county which has continued growth in cases. Any idea what’s going on there?
    It'll be Macnas

    https://twitter.com/Macnas/status/1277936607136493568?s=20


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    It would cause too much outrage from
    My own gender :D

    https://www.nwhn.org/the-pandemic-is-disproportionately-affecting-women-heres-why/

    I have regularly seen articles about Covid disproportionately affecting women. Imagine if articles started with - yes we know women die more often of Covid but it is hurting men more because of losing jobs and the kids being at home.
    Emmm...what?!

    Silly billys everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    No wonder the swab data gets confusing

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1351912637462929415


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    No wonder the swab data gets confusing

    https://twitter.com/RiochtConor2/status/1351912637462929415

    Never good practice to change published data.

    I think it is good practice. Better to have corrected historical data than have days with negative counts as it was in spring/summer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Eod100 wrote: »

    What about non citizens ? ! Member of my family is and EU citizen


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,376 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    KrustyUCC wrote: »

    Did they miss Sunday there? The first two figures correspond to last Fri and Sat, Sundays 2,871 swabs not there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,961 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Thats me wrote: »
    I think it is good practice. Better to have corrected historical data than have days with negative counts as it was in spring/summer.

    I think it's good as well. There was one day in April where we reported 214 deaths. Obviously these weren't all from one day and the geohive stats have since been updated to show the correct daily numbers. But over on the worldometers site they've chosen to interpret this 214 deaths literally and as a result Ireland's daily death graph is unreadable due to this huge single data point needing a big scale, with the other figures all down at the bottom. If they'd corrected the data to to reflect reality it'd be far more readable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What about non citizens ? ! Member of my family is and EU citizen

    Yeah that's funny wording. I've a few non citizens in my family. I presume he was using "citizen" as a synonym for "everyone"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    ZX7R wrote: »
    Support in Australia is starting to wane to the measures in place, the Australian open has highlighted a new problem for there government, they were relying heavily on international sporting this year to boost their economy sporting bodies are happy to observe their quarantine measures but a large proportion of participating teams are pulling out especially motorsports as it's not financially viable for them to attend.
    After the announcement that there borders would be closed for another year, support for there covid enforcement dropped also mostly because the government could not give a time frame of when border restrictions would end.

    I actually find the opposite, most people here want the international border restrictions tightened even more... the government actually had to relent and reduced the intake by 50%.

    I'm sure there are some people who were hoping to travel overseas for whatever reason but the majority have absolutely no intention, really were do you go aside NZ and a few of Asian counties? other places like Europe and US are practically wipe your feet on the way out. No one really wants to visit countries that everything is closed, even with vaccines this is not going be over for another year there's still going be varying restrictions around the world for the rest year

    The Australian open charter flights and quarantine were all external to the government quarantine program, paid by Tennis Australia and ITF the Victorian government only allowed it because they were afraid to lose out to another city. A lot of people were opposed to it as its very risky but there's been no problem with Cricket and Rugby, I doubt F1 will happen but there's very little other international sport affected. Really there was no relying on sport boosting the economy the minuscule money from sport compared to actually destroying your country economy by closing everything up is not worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,768 ✭✭✭timsey tiger


    Thats me wrote: »
    I think it is good practice. Better to have corrected historical data than have days with negative counts as it was in spring/summer.

    Maybe, if they were labeled provisional until finalised,everybody could be happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Yeah that's funny wording. I've a few non citizens in my family. I presume he was using "citizen" as a synonym for "everyone"

    I believe there's over 500,000 non-Irish living here.

    It wouldn't just be offensive to neglect them, it'd be stupid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    I believe there's over 500,000 non-Irish living here.

    It wouldn't just be offensive to neglect them, it'd be stupid

    Yeah it would make no sense at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,978 ✭✭✭Russman


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What about non citizens ? ! Member of my family is and EU citizen

    I'd honestly say it was just his turn of phrase rather than any message regarding non-nationals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    What about non citizens ? ! Member of my family is and EU citizen

    Poor use of language from him alright https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1352206417546063873?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    I think it's good as well. There was one day in April where we reported 214 deaths. Obviously these weren't all from one day and the geohive stats have since been updated to show the correct daily numbers. But over on the worldometers site they've chosen to interpret this 214 deaths literally and as a result Ireland's daily death graph is unreadable due to this huge single data point needing a big scale, with the other figures all down at the bottom. If they'd corrected the data to to reflect reality it'd be far more readable.

    540197.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,854 ✭✭✭zuutroy


    RTE at it again. Front page headline:

    "Retail sectors 'likely' to stay shut until end of May"

    Text of article:

    "Taoiseach Micheál Martin has not explicitly ruled out the idea of restaurants being shut until May or even longer."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Hespy


    I see that Galway is the one county which has continued growth in cases. Any idea what’s going on there?

    There were 604 cases reported in Galway on January 12th. As this was multiples higher than any or the days preceeding or after this, it is obvious that there was a backlog of cases reported in one go on this day. In fact, the numbers in Galway were suspiciously low in the lead up to this day.
    The 14 day incidence rate at the moment is all the cases between the 6th and 20th, divided by the population of the county. If as suspected, the cases between the 6th and 11th were being underreported, then new daily case numbers will likely be higher than the figure two weeks previosu to that which they are displacing.
    I wonder of the Connacht Tribune headline on the 27th of the month will be "Galway sees largest drop in infection rate in the country". :p


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