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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭capefear


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I've a friend, 50 years old with no underlying conditions in ICU with covid.

    I have one 49 years old mate, no underlying conditions and in ICU with COVID afew days now, we thing they got it from a younger family member.

    I hope all in icu make a speedy recovery as it’s a scary time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Beasty wrote: »
    The poster may have long since departed, but their words survive:

    A year today, 30 threads and 289,339 posts ago:

    Must be a record for the site?

    Some sub forums probably dont hit those numbers in a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    Beasty wrote: »
    The poster may have long since departed, but their words survive:

    A year today, 30 threads and 289,339 posts ago:

    That poster is such a scaremonger!
    /S


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Newuser2


    Certainly plenty of budding virologists here


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,458 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Must be a record for the site?

    Some sub forums probably dont hit those numbers in a year.

    Only one other forum, Current Affairs, had more posts than these 31 threads over the past year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    The UK's sorry tale of it's fight against COVID just never seems to improve..bad news only over there
    https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1352050856842190850

    https://www.ft.com/content/5f7b58fb-97ad-4fef-bbc9-b71d328c6700
    Excess deaths in the UK have also reached a grim milestone of 100,000 since the beginning of the pandemic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,869 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Another old poster from the earlier covid threads, Fritzelly, what happened to him/her, was it not them who would always find a way around a newspaper paywall and provide these important links.

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The UK's sorry tale of it's fight against COVID just never seems to improve..bad news only over there

    I know their numbers are bad, but isn't 30k-40k cases a decline compared to the 50k-60k cases they had recently?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,196 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Text messages in both English and Portuguese have been sent to 1,511 travellers who have arrived in Ireland from Brazil in the past 28 day advising that they self-isolate and arrange a Covid-19 test, the Department of Health has said.

    Up to four text messages per person have started being sent out to arrivals from Brazil where a new strain of the Covid-19 virus has emerged in recent weeks. It follows the appearance of a more transmissible coronavirus strain in the UK and South Africa.

    The Government is currently advising against “all travel to and from countries in South America” while the Minister for Health called on everyone who had arrived from Brazil over the past fortnight to contact their GP to organise a Covid-19 test free of charge and to restrict their movements.

    A Department of Health spokeswoman underlined that all passengers arriving into the State were required to fill out a Covid-19 passenger locator form and to present evidence of a negative PCR test.

    “In recent days a series of SMS text messages have been sent to 1,511 passengers people who arrived from Brazil in the last 28 days to bring this advice to their attention,” she told The Irish Times. “These text messages were sent in both English and Brazilian Portuguese. The recent arrivals will receive up to four text messages in the 14-day period following their arrival to Ireland.”

    Source - Irish Times


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 107 ✭✭Newuser2


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Text messages in both English and Portuguese have been sent to 1,511 travellers who have arrived in Ireland from Brazil in the past 28 day advising that they self-isolate and arrange a Covid-19 test, the Department of Health has said.

    Up to four text messages per person have started being sent out to arrivals from Brazil where a new strain of the Covid-19 virus has emerged in recent weeks. It follows the appearance of a more transmissible coronavirus strain in the UK and South Africa.

    The Government is currently advising against “all travel to and from countries in South America” while the Minister for Health called on everyone who had arrived from Brazil over the past fortnight to contact their GP to organise a Covid-19 test free of charge and to restrict their movements.

    A Department of Health spokeswoman underlined that all passengers arriving into the State were required to fill out a Covid-19 passenger locator form and to present evidence of a negative PCR test.

    “In recent days a series of SMS text messages have been sent to 1,511 passengers people who arrived from Brazil in the last 28 days to bring this advice to their attention,” she told The Irish Times. “These text messages were sent in both English and Brazilian Portuguese. The recent arrivals will receive up to four text messages in the 14-day period following their arrival to Ireland.”

    Source - Irish Times

    They'll be working in meat factories now a lot of them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    quokula wrote: »
    There really should be a process or legal route to hold employers who do this to account, the same as if they tried to force someone to work through maternity leave or whatever.

    They may well face legal consequences if a bad outcome comes of that. I would suspect that situations like that are potential legal minefields when it comes to duties of care, negligence etc etc

    It’s just it’s a fat lot of good after the fact. We need some proper enforcement of accommodation now, not suing people after someone’s become ill or died as a result of stuff like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Newuser2 wrote: »
    They'll be working in meat factories now a lot of them

    I would be wary of saying “contact your GP” many people don’t have a regular GP and that may particularly apply if you’ve only recently set up here.

    Something like that should be handled more directly by the HSE public health doctors or by direct arrangement through a dedicated phone number for this incidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Text messages in both English and Portuguese have been sent to 1,511 travellers who have arrived in Ireland from Brazil in the past 28 day advising that they self-isolate and arrange a Covid-19 test, the Department of Health has said.

    Up to four text messages per person have started being sent out to arrivals from Brazil where a new strain of the Covid-19 virus has emerged in recent weeks. It follows the appearance of a more transmissible coronavirus strain in the UK and South Africa.

    The Government is currently advising against “all travel to and from countries in South America” while the Minister for Health called on everyone who had arrived from Brazil over the past fortnight to contact their GP to organise a Covid-19 test free of charge and to restrict their movements.

    A Department of Health spokeswoman underlined that all passengers arriving into the State were required to fill out a Covid-19 passenger locator form and to present evidence of a negative PCR test.

    “In recent days a series of SMS text messages have been sent to 1,511 passengers people who arrived from Brazil in the last 28 days to bring this advice to their attention,” she told The Irish Times. “These text messages were sent in both English and Brazilian Portuguese. The recent arrivals will receive up to four text messages in the 14-day period following their arrival to Ireland.”

    Source - Irish Times

    Splendid ...you get people in Dublin being turned away from going to the Pheonix park .......meanwhile every Tom, Dick and Carvahal are flying in from one of the biggest ****holes in the world in their many 100's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Splendid ...you get people in Dublin being turned away from going to the Pheonix park .......meanwhile every Tom, Dick and Carvahal are flying in from one of the biggest ****holes in the world in their many 100's

    Mod

    Make your point without brandishing other nations as ****holes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,393 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    wadacrack wrote: »
    We need a sustainable plan, most people realise this now. 2 to 3 weeks of normality if we open with a new strain and basically back to severe restrictions. Countries will eventually follow the NZ and Australia model. Vaccination hopefully makes it easier

    Support in Australia is starting to wane to the measures in place, the Australian open has highlighted a new problem for there government, they were relying heavily on international sporting this year to boost their economy sporting bodies are happy to observe their quarantine measures but a large proportion of participating teams are pulling out especially motorsports as it's not financially viable for them to attend.
    After the announcement that there borders would be closed for another year, support for there covid enforcement dropped also mostly because the government could not give a time frame of when border restrictions would end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Text messages in both English and Portuguese have been sent to 1,511 travellers who have arrived in Ireland from Brazil in the past 28 day advising that they self-isolate and arrange a Covid-19 test, the Department of Health has said.

    Up to four text messages per person have started being sent out to arrivals from Brazil where a new strain of the Covid-19 virus has emerged in recent weeks. It follows the appearance of a more transmissible coronavirus strain in the UK and South Africa.

    The Government is currently advising against “all travel to and from countries in South America” while the Minister for Health called on everyone who had arrived from Brazil over the past fortnight to contact their GP to organise a Covid-19 test free of charge and to restrict their movements.

    A Department of Health spokeswoman underlined that all passengers arriving into the State were required to fill out a Covid-19 passenger locator form and to present evidence of a negative PCR test.

    “In recent days a series of SMS text messages have been sent to 1,511 passengers people who arrived from Brazil in the last 28 days to bring this advice to their attention,” she told The Irish Times. “These text messages were sent in both English and Brazilian Portuguese. The recent arrivals will receive up to four text messages in the 14-day period following their arrival to Ireland.”

    Source - Irish Times

    Good to see the Irish authorities as proactive and on the pulse as ever. I think that horse has well and truly bolted. 28 days later!
    I've never believed a zero covid policy was suitable for us here given many circumstances but the absolute lack of any plan to curtail, test or keep tabs on incoming travellers has been shocking. This goes for both essential and non essential resons for travel.
    Probably doesn't help having a minister for transport who is obsessed with cycle lanes and neglects every other remit of his portfolio, being against air travel and having his head in the sand about people arriving must have a factor too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    I see that Galway is the one county which has continued growth in cases. Any idea what’s going on there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭Renjit


    prunudo wrote: »
    28 days later!

    Heartbeat intensifies :pac:


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I see that Galway is the one county which has continued growth in cases. Any idea what’s going on there?

    Galway, despite having one of the largest population centres in the country had been relatively low throughout. Anecdotally from cases I know of at work, there are a large number of young people from all over the country living and working in Galway city. After Xmas / New Year people returned from their families and in a lot of cases the virus spread throughout their shared accommodation when one person brought it back


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Covid Nightmares - where you are in a succession of perfectly ordinary places doing mundane boring tasks but randomers nearby are coughing. :)


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,458 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    Covid Nightmares - where you are in a succession of perfectly ordinary places doing mundane boring tasks but randomers nearby are coughing. :)

    The pandemic has appeared in my dreams. I got the vaccine somehow. Don't remember much else.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    One factor that is rarely mentioned in all this is that a significant number of people (particularly under or single 40s men from what I have learned) are not registered with a GP, haven't attended a doctor in years, maybe decades, unless having been forced to when carted off to a hospital for likes of an acute injury like a broken limb. I can't believe of the number of guys I've personally heard about who just don't attend doctors. These wouldn't have ready recourse to accessing Covid tests (and wouldn't have any inclination to seek out such help) and may be weathering through quite bad infections without knowledge of anybody in the health services, and could possibly be contributing to the spread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    This is good to see as well, in terms of public trust in the vaccination process.
    Patients are being warned that GPs will have “zero discretion” in the pecking order for Covid-19 vaccinations amid phone calls to surgeries asking for injections.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/no-queue-jumping-for-covid-vaccine-as-doctors-call-for-publics-patience-39993778.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    One factor that is rarely mentioned in all this is that a significant number of people (particularly under or single 40s men from what I have learned) are not registered with a GP, haven't attended a doctor in years, maybe decades, unless having been forced to when carted off to a hospital for likes of an acute injury like a broken limb. I can't believe of the number of guys I've personally heard about who just don't attend doctors. These wouldn't have ready recourse to accessing Covid tests, and may be weathering through quite bad infections without knowledge of anybody in the health services, and could possibly be contributing to the spread.
    I believe they can go through HSE Live anyway for possible tests. There are also the out of hours services.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,956 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    What's the other option?

    The option that should have been taken from the very start, aggressively target and invest in protecting the known vulnerable sectors while allowing the remainder of society to co-exist with the virus.

    And yes, that would require some adult decisions about death.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »

    Trouble is that when it comes to the next risk groups involving those with serious illness, one GP's very vulnerable patient is another GP's marginally vulnerable patient. It becomes difficult to tease out the relative risks, and a person the GP knows better, not necessarily by virtue of their health status illness, is more likely to then give the shots to them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    One factor that is rarely mentioned in all this is that a significant number of people (particularly under or single 40s men from what I have learned) are not registered with a GP, haven't attended a doctor in years, maybe decades, unless having been forced to when carted off to a hospital for likes of an acute injury like a broken limb. I can't believe of the number of guys I've personally heard about who just don't attend doctors. These wouldn't have ready recourse to accessing Covid tests (and wouldn't have any inclination to seek out such help) and may be weathering through quite bad infections without knowledge of anybody in the health services, and could possibly be contributing to the spread.

    I'm kind of one those. Until last December I hadn't been to see my GP in over a 11 years. The only reason I went is because they wouldn't my prescription for an asthmatic inhaler without a visit.

    My reasons for not going for 11 years is that simply I haven't needed to go. Although granted I know i should go more often


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    is_that_so wrote: »
    I believe they can go through HSE Live anyway for possible tests. There are also the out of hours services.

    They can, but I imagine, going by guys I know, that a significant cohort don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Trouble is that when it comes to the next risk groups involving those with serious illness, one GP's very vulnerable patient is another GP's marginally vulnerable patient. It becomes difficult to tease out the relative risks, and a person the GP knows better, not necessarily by virtue of their health status illness, is more likely to then give the shots to them.
    Those groups are not very big in the general scheme of things and should be vaccinated very quickly. The criteria for Group 7 are already defined. Once we get to Groups 12 and above, it's book your timeslot. The only exception might be 18-34s.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 769 ✭✭✭PmMeUrDogs


    Trouble is that when it comes to the next risk groups involving those with serious illness, one GP's very vulnerable patient is another GP's marginally vulnerable patient. It becomes difficult to tease out the relative risks, and a person the GP knows better, not necessarily by virtue of their health status illness, is more likely to then give the shots to them.

    Are they able to do that, though? Surely if the patient has one or more of the listed illnesses making them vulnerable, they are given the vaccine without the GP picking and choosing?


    One of my parents is very high risk - lung disease, heart problems, other issues. They're currently in hospital and have been for a few weeks (and were also in for the month of December). They are very high risk but because they're not old, they're far enough down on the list to receive the vaccine even though their consultants have said covid could easily kill them. They're asking their consultant today about vaccination because they're terrified, especially with being so ill they keep being hospitalized.


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