Joe Biden Presidency thread Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21

namloc1980 · 20-01-2021 08:12PM

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20-01-2021 08:15PM

Overheal wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1351969134737809408?s=20

I hope Joe brought a tan suit.

Factually correct I suppose

Tell me how · 20-01-2021 08:17PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Watched the inauguration ceremony of President Joe Biden and Vice-Predident Kamala Harris and although the ceremony itself was somewhat subdued, given the huge security detail, there was the definite tone of a fresh start, of hope and healing.

The young black girl doing the poem towards the end was brilliant. The highlight of the ceremony for me.

Biden and Harris have been handed a sh*tshow left by the Trump administration - 400K + Americans dead from Covid, its international reputation close to tatters, huge unemployment, disastrous decisions made on environmental issues by Trump, racial tensions and a hugely divided nation. The task is immense and seems close to insurmountable. But it has to be tackled head on.

Biden won't fix everything in America. There is a wide gap between people on opposing sides which will not be easily fixed, if at all.

But, his words sounded the right tone. And that was something the last guy failed to even achieve and at the least, I expect Biden will indeed be focused on trying to improve the quality of life for those living in America.

As time goes on, clips of some of Trumps behaviour and speeches will look more and more bizarre that they actually happened.

Dempo1 · 20-01-2021 08:20PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Watched the inauguration ceremony of President Joe Biden and Vice-Predident Kamala Harris and although the ceremony itself was somewhat subdued, given the huge security detail, there was the definite tone of a fresh start, of hope and healing.

The young black girl doing the poem towards the end was brilliant. The highlight of the ceremony for me.

Biden and Harris have been handed a sh*tshow left by the Trump administration - 400K + Americans dead from Covid, its international reputation close to tatters, huge unemployment, disastrous decisions made on environmental issues by Trump, racial tensions and a hugely divided nation. The task is immense and seems close to insurmountable. But it has to be tackled head on.

Yep, Amanda Gorman (curious is there another Irish connection), she was incredibly impressive, Youth Poet Laureate 2017.

joseywhales · 20-01-2021 08:20PM

I think realistically it will be a successful term if he only gets some control and confidence in dealing with covid. The rest is nice to signal his intent for america in general but let's not get high expectations here, noone can solve the divide in 4 years. Just get covid under control.

prinzeugen · 20-01-2021 08:21PM

Apparently Trump just called Biden to apologise because Barron had forgotten to switch the immersion off.

Its funny watching all these Q nutters on twitter. Most finally realise they have been conned but some are still saying its "part of the 5D chess game"..

12gauge dave · 20-01-2021 08:29PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Watched the inauguration ceremony of President Joe Biden and Vice-Predident Kamala Harris and although the ceremony itself was somewhat subdued, given the huge security detail, there was the definite tone of a fresh start, of hope and healing.

The young black girl doing the poem towards the end was brilliant. The highlight of the ceremony for me.

Biden and Harris have been handed a sh*tshow left by the Trump administration - 400K + Americans dead from Covid, its international reputation close to tatters, huge unemployment, disastrous decisions made on environmental issues by Trump, racial tensions and a hugely divided nation. The task is immense and seems close to insurmountable. But it has to be tackled head on.

Covid 19 response is decided by individual states so goveners should be held responsible maybe?

States enjoy unchallenged primacy in what constitutional scholars call “police powers”—those involving the health, safety, and well-being of their citizens.

In the last year of Trump’s presidency, the unemployment rate reached a 50-year low of 3.5% in February before the coronavirus hit globally and surely we're not gonna blame him for the coronavirus are we.

joe40 · 20-01-2021 08:47PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Covid 19 response is decided by individual states so goveners should be held responsible maybe?

States enjoy unchallenged primacy in what constitutional scholars call “police powers”—those involving the health, safety, and well-being of their citizens.

In the last year of Trump’s presidency, the unemployment rate reached a 50-year low of 3.5% in February before the coronavirus hit globally and surely we're not gonna blame him for the coronavirus are we.

I wouldn't blame Trump for the coronavirus, and even with a competent administration in power it would still have had a devastating affect.

I do blame Trump for the utter incompetence and lack of leadership he displayed with the pandemic.
He totally dismissed his own medical experts, mocked measures such as masks and social distancing.
He even actively supported anti lockdown protests in some states.
So no, Trump is not responsible for all the deaths but he is directly responsible for a proportion of them.
He took a catastrophe and made it worse.

Anyway this thread is about Biden. F*ck Trump he is best forgotten about at this stage.

Boggles · 20-01-2021 08:49PM

joe40 wrote: »

I wouldn't blame Trump for the coronavirus, and even with a competent administration in power it would still have had a devastating affect.

I do blame Trump for the utter incompetence and lack of leadership he displayed with this thing.
He totally dismissed his own medical experts, mocked measures such as masks and social distancing.
He even actively supported anti lockdown protests in some states.
So no Trump is not responsible for all the deaths but he is directly responsible for a proportion of them.
He took a catastrophe and made it worse.

Anyway this thread is about Biden. F*ck Trump he is best forgotten about at this stage.

You forgot he hosted several super spread events, some in the actual White House.

DraftDodger · 20-01-2021 08:51PM

Deleted User wrote: »

There are reportedly quite a few "Hawks" appointed by Biden.

I look forward to seeing Team America crashing into the Middle East very soon. Yemen or Syria? Not sure. Maybe Iran?

I'd be looking at them going the Iran route in the next 2 years.

Christy42 · 20-01-2021 09:01PM

DraftDodger wrote: »

I'd be looking at them going the Iran route in the next 2 years.

I imagine going the other way. Getting peace with Iran was one of the successes of the Obama/Biden presidency. Trump put a spanner in the works but it may well be salvaged and I have to figure Biden wants that.

briany · 20-01-2021 09:13PM

Seems very quiet regarding protests from those opposed to Biden's presidency. Not surprising, given the security measures taken, but wonder how discontent from those groups will manifest itself over the coming months. Hopefully whatever does manifest will be peaceful.

Kilboor · 20-01-2021 09:17PM

Interested to see where Biden goes economically, American debt is heading towards crazy levels and China is gaining power in Europe and Africa. It's a shame Trump for all his talk could not deal with these issues. Foreign policy wise though, let's hope Biden at least keeps the same trajectory as Trump in terms of not starting any major conflicts with Middle Eastern countries over the next 4 (Maybe 8) years.

Tell me how · 20-01-2021 09:18PM

briany wrote: »

Seems very quiet regarding protests from those opposed to Biden's presidency. Not surprising, given the security measures taken, but wonder how discontent from those groups will manifest itself over the coming months. Hopefully whatever does manifest will be peaceful.

I heard that many of those who might protest stayed away because they thought it was a trap for them.

I'm not overly concerned about Biden or Harris's safety given the security they will have. But, I would be concerned for many prominent Democrats and in particular AOC. We saw an MP being killed in the UK by a radicalized person and in the US we've seen House Representatives shot though thankfully both survived.

jill_valentine · 20-01-2021 09:25PM

briany wrote: »

Seems very quiet regarding protests from those opposed to Biden's presidency. Not surprising, given the security measures taken, but wonder how discontent from those groups will manifest itself over the coming months. Hopefully whatever does manifest will be peaceful.

I think an awful lot of the ringleaders are probably still in jail or keeping their heads down after last time, but yeah, thankfully. The lack of forthcoming pardons for any of the previous insurrectionists seems to have been a bit of a system shock, too.

That said, I wouldn't be surprised if there are scuffles in the next few days or nights, or around the eventual impeachment hearings. As Tell Me How says, Id be more concerned now about people like AoC or Ilhan Omar who don't have the same security apparatus as Biden or Harris, and there's some manner of almighty mess brewing in the Michigan militia movements if it's not addressed aggressively soon.

I don't think we're going to see anything on the scale of a coup attempt again, but sadly, I do expect more McVeigh wannabes in the four years to come.

12gauge dave · 20-01-2021 09:28PM

joe40 wrote: »

I wouldn't blame Trump for the coronavirus, and even with a competent administration in power it would still have had a devastating affect.

I do blame Trump for the utter incompetence and lack of leadership he displayed with the pandemic.
He totally dismissed his own medical experts, mocked measures such as masks and social distancing.
He even actively supported anti lockdown protests in some states.
So no, Trump is not responsible for all the deaths but he is directly responsible for a proportion of them.
He took a catastrophe and made it worse.

Anyway this thread is about Biden. F*ck Trump he is best forgotten about at this stage.

Have you anything to back up that he is DIRECTLY responsible for a proportion of US citizens deaths?

If you do I will I happily digress but that is a a heavy accusation to make against a us president.

flazio · 20-01-2021 09:30PM

Cortez is a New Yorker. NYPD tend to be one of the better police forces, though they too need to address some social injustices.
Bottom line though is I think AOC will be just fine.

eagle eye · 20-01-2021 09:36PM

12gauge dave wrote:

Have you anything to back up that he is DIRECTLY responsible for a proportion of US citizens deaths?

Have you anything to back up that he's not?
You know like his rallies with crowds at them, his supporting protests against lockdowns. You don't think these caused massive spreads of the virus and deaths?

mcmoustache · 20-01-2021 09:37PM

briany wrote: »

Seems very quiet regarding protests from those opposed to Biden's presidency. Not surprising, given the security measures taken, but wonder how discontent from those groups will manifest itself over the coming months. Hopefully whatever does manifest will be peaceful.

This guy did his best.

https://twitter.com/morganfmckay/status/1351934178493935620

Galwayguy35 · 20-01-2021 09:38PM

JupiterKid wrote: »

Watched the inauguration ceremony of President Joe Biden and Vice-Predident Kamala Harris and although the ceremony itself was somewhat subdued, given the huge security detail, there was the definite tone of a fresh start, of hope and healing.

The young black girl doing the poem towards the end was brilliant. The highlight of the ceremony for me.

Biden and Harris have been handed a sh*tshow left by the Trump administration - 400K + Americans dead from Covid, its international reputation close to tatters, huge unemployment, disastrous decisions made on environmental issues by Trump, racial tensions and a hugely divided nation. The task is immense and seems close to insurmountable. But it has to be tackled head on.

Its a mess now all right but to be fair up until the start of 2020 the economy was strong but Trump made a balls of the whole thing by not listening to the advice he was getting on how to handle the pandemic.

Galwayguy35 · 20-01-2021 09:40PM

Martin will be gutted if his 2 year term is up before he gets to hand the shamrock to Biden on Paddys Day.

Melanchthon · 20-01-2021 09:40PM

Kilboor wrote: »

Interested to see where Biden goes economically, American debt is heading towards crazy levels and China is gaining power in Europe and Africa. It's a shame Trump for all his talk could not deal with these issues. Foreign policy wise though, let's hope Biden at least keeps the same trajectory as Trump in terms of not starting any major conflicts with Middle Eastern countries over the next 4 (Maybe 8) years.

Your likely to be pretty disappointed re China

“China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,” the former vice president said.

“I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us,”

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-comments-downplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

Biden is weak on China and as I highlighted earlier, in the past has specifically stated he would not aid Taiwan if they declared independence and China invaded. Interestingly he was ok with Kosovo's and the war following that so it's not unilateral independence he has a problem with.
Makes you wonder why he is weak on it?

mcmoustache · 20-01-2021 09:45PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Have you anything to back up that he is DIRECTLY responsible for a proportion of US citizens deaths?

You mean like a photo of him injecting someone with covid? Because I think that that's all that you will accept.

In case you're being serious, I would point to his denial about the disease, his inaction on sorting it out and his encouragement of superspreader events (one of which killed Herman Cain) as having led directly to a significant proportion of those deaths.

Kilboor · 20-01-2021 09:46PM

Melanchthon wrote: »

Your likely to be pretty disappointed re China

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/biden-s-comments-downplaying-china-threat-u-s-fires-pols-n1001236

Biden is weak on China and as I highlighted earlier, in the past has specifically stated he would not aid Taiwan if they declared independence and China invaded. Interestingly he was ok with Kosovo's and the war following that so it's not unilateral independence he has a problem with.
Makes you wonder why he is weak on it?

I think once Biden gets into full swing he will realise the threat of China, no way the advisors at all levels of government won't be alert to what the Chinese are up to. The reason he said that is most likely to appear the opposite of what Trump stands for.

osarusan · 20-01-2021 09:48PM

Tell me how wrote: »

I heard that many of those who might protest stayed away because they thought it was a trap for them.

I'm not overly concerned about Biden or Harris's safety given the security they will have. But, I would be concerned for many prominent Democrats and in particular AOC. We saw an MP being killed in the UK by a radicalized person and in the US we've seen House Representatives shot though thankfully both survived.

I actually think that Republicans are just as likely to be targeted as Democrats.

There's a cohort of Trump fans who are fans only of Trump, and while the Democrats have always been the enemy, they have a special hatred for those Republicans who, in their eyes, betrayed their saviour.

20-01-2021 09:48PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Have you anything to back up that he is DIRECTLY responsible for a proportion of US citizens deaths?

No one is directly responsible for someone dying from it except for either the person who died, the person who transmitted it to them, both parties or neither party. I'm not even sure what your question means.

If someone else was president, be it a republican or democratic, then less people would have died as long as, unlike Trump, that person had listened to the experts rather than mocking their advice.

Water John · 20-01-2021 09:51PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Its a mess now all right but to be fair up until the start of 2020 the economy was strong but Trump made a balls of the whole thing by not listening to the advice he was getting on how to handle the pandemic.

Borrowing by Trump had gone skywards long before Covid and no good use made of it.

Melanchthon · 20-01-2021 09:57PM

Kilboor wrote: »

I think once Biden gets into full swing he will realise the threat of China, no way the advisors at all levels of government won't be alert to what the Chinese are up to. The reason he said that is most likely to appear the opposite of what Trump stands for.

He was vice-president in 2016, he's visited China numerous times, he's met with Xi a bunch of times, his relative has business dealings there

He should be about as clued in as it's possible to be on China without actually being in the Pentagon or directly in government.

joe40 · 20-01-2021 10:01PM

12gauge dave wrote: »

Have you anything to back up that he is DIRECTLY responsible for a proportion of US citizens deaths?

If you do I will I happily digress but that is a a heavy accusation to make against a us president.

Statistically it would be virtually impossible to assume that there would not have been no transmission of the virus at the many Rallies he held.
That transmission leads to more transmission so a proportion will result in death.
So yes, deaths directly attributable to Trump. That is only one example.

12gauge dave · 20-01-2021 10:21PM

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/24/us/coronavirus-cases-protests-black-lives-matter-trnd/index.html

Strange how trump rallies are seen as such superspraders and cause of death but cnn and others think months of BLM protests across 300 US cities had no effect on virus spreading.

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