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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #7772
    Theboinkmaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Theboinkmaster


    rob316 wrote: »
    When the cases fall to under 1000 day the pressure will ratchet up to get retail open to some degree.

    they can stay closed, schools is priority


  • #7773
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Psychedelic Hedgehog wrote: »
    Do people really think that the government/NPHET want to keep the lockdown in place for as long as is possible? Remember that the cost of PUP and other social welfare supports, plus the lack of taxable service trade has to go on the national debt, which impacts any political party's ability to loosen the purse strings anytime in the near future.

    Occam's razor, lads.

    Thats a bit blunt these days. Most probably would go with a Gillette!


  • #7774
    snotboogie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,795 ✭✭✭snotboogie


    Elessar wrote: »
    Depressing as f*ck that news.

    I was willing to accept going to the end of March while the people most at risk were vaccinated but if we still have these draconian restrictions there should be 100,000 people marching on Leinster house in protest. But being Ireland, we'll just moan and complain to ourselves and then accept and take it like good little boys and girls.

    "The vulnerable" will be vaccinated by end of March but some other group will be the new "vulnerable" mark my words. They could keep us restricted to 2030 and we'd still take it like sheep.

    Its probably better to err on the side of caution. The government have been badly burned by the Christmas catastrophe and will rightly be reticent to rush into another opening.

    I still think official projections for after March are a waste of time as by then we are likely to be in full swing with 4 vaccines (Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca and Janssen). This will vastly change the landscape to now. At the same time politicians are understandably cautious about making predications for capacity extending beyond Pfizer, Moderna and AZ. Even with AZ they are being very cautious in predictions. A single shot Janssen vaccine is arguably a bigger game changer than the cheap and easy to produce AZ.

    This applies even more so for the summer as Curevac, Novavax and even Sputnik V are all likely to be approved by the EMA sometime between now and the end of the summer.


  • #7775
    y2k2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭y2k2020


    techdiver wrote: »
    Now lets be honest here. I fully support all the current measures but to not recognise them as draconian is disingenuous. Not being able to go 5km from your home, no public amenities, no social outlets open. That's the definition of draconian.

    Wuhan only had 80 days, once

    We are looking at 120 days

    And for the 3rd time


  • #7776
    Purple Papillon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭Purple Papillon


    Elessar wrote: »
    Depressing as f*ck that news.

    I was willing to accept going to the end of March while the people most at risk were vaccinated but if we still have these draconian restrictions there should be 100,000 people marching on Leinster house in protest. But being Ireland, we'll just moan and complain to ourselves and then accept and take it like good little boys and girls.

    "The vulnerable" will be vaccinated by end of March but some other group will be the new "vulnerable" mark my words. They could keep us restricted to 2030 and we'd still take it like sheep.

    All well and good vaccinating the most vulnerable but it still leaves a lot of people outside of the most vulnerable vaccination group vulnerable to the virus and it will be many months before they will get offered a vaccine. Many people currently in hospital are under 65.


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  • #7777
    Elessar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    Russman wrote: »
    Ronan Glynn said last week that 1 in 3 hospitalisations is under 65.

    There we go so. Another bullet ready for the chamber. After that it will be some other group, and maybe the cats and dogs.
    bennyl10 wrote: »
    these arent draconian for one thing

    What did you honestly think would happen?

    :confused: What do you class as draconian exactly?!

    Honestly I wasn't expecting much else from government. But I had hoped non-essential retail and restaurants with social distancing would be good to go by April. Not too much to ask when those most at risk are no longer at risk and pressure on hospitals won't nearly be as bad?


  • #7778
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Almost 2k deaths in the UK alone today.


  • #7779
    DraftDodger
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 284 ✭✭DraftDodger


    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.


  • #7780
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.

    This type of rhetoric is fierce boring at this stage


  • #7781
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.

    Ha good one


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  • #7782
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.
    Ah, the man who tells it like it is. You'd learn 'em, wouldn't you!


  • #7783
    sonofenoch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    1,820 deaths in the UK today.

    Grim.

    Off the scale mental.........remember not so long ago everyone losing their **** reading about 900 deaths a day in Italy ......seems par for the course now


  • #7784
    y2k2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭y2k2020


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Off the scale mental.........remember not so long ago everyone losing their **** reading about 900 deaths a day in Italy ......seems par for the course now

    That was in Lombardy, one area

    That's all UK

    UK covid death is anyone that died within 28 day's of infection


  • #7785
    y2k2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭y2k2020


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.

    99% of those people are still alive and will continue to do so


  • #7786
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    14,600 cases in Portugal today.
    They appear to have been under some wishy washy restrictions since quite recently that weren't being well adhered to. Yesterday they've announced new tougher restrictions, but still quite wishy washy. Schools open. Non essential retail open, though no January sales apparently.

    I think they're in deep trouble.


  • #7787
    Sconsey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭Sconsey


    Elessar wrote: »
    There we go so. Another bullet ready for the chamber. After that it will be some other group, and maybe the cats and dogs.



    :confused: What do you class as draconian exactly?!

    Honestly I wasn't expecting much else from government. But I had hoped non-essential retail and restaurants with social distancing would be good to go by April. Not too much to ask when those most at risk are no longer at risk and pressure on hospitals won't nearly be as bad?

    Not a hope of all the vulnerable being vaccinated by April. If you look at the plan the medically vulnerable are in group 6. There are large numbers to be vaccinated before they begin to look at the medically vulnerable. Add about three months to your plan.


  • #7788
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    y2k2020 wrote: »
    UK covid death is anyone that died within 28 day's of infection

    ....in the last 24 hours.


  • #7789
    ednwireland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,732 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.

    i didnt

    My weather

    https://www.ecowitt.net/home/share?authorize=96CT1F



  • #7790
    y2k2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭y2k2020


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    ....in the last 24 hours.

    Read it again


  • #7791
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    y2k2020 wrote: »
    Read it again

    Read it twice...

    1,820 people in the UK died in the last 24 hours - people who tested positive for Covid in the last 28 days.

    Their real death toll from Covid is probably a good deal higher.


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  • #7792
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    DraftDodger wrote: »
    Unfortunately the people of Ireland acted like children over Xmas and must be treated like children with these continuing restriction measures.

    Oh how I wish they had!

    IF they'd acted like children, then they'd have done as they were told, but that didn't happen, Government and NPHET gave advice, and didn't lay down hard and fast rules, and a significant number of people decided that they knew better, and that the guidance they'd been given wasn't applicable to their unique special circumstances, so they did what they have always done, and had the same sort of Christmas as they always do, and we've seen the result of that over the period since, and we really don't need a repeat of that crass stupidity any time soon.

    If we'd reduced contacts, and been happy to have smaller family groups over the Christmas period, then we might have been looking at a shorter lockdown, and a quicker unwind of the restrictions, but the numbers infected right now mean that it is going to take longer to get back to a position where it's safe to start unwinding the restrictions.

    A number of European countries did a complete lockdown over Christmas, and yes, they don't do Christmas to the same degree as Ireland, but it does look as if their path resulted in fewer cases and less death.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • #7793
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    14,600 cases in Portugal today.
    They appear to have been under some wishy washy restrictions since quite recently that weren't being well adhered to. Yesterday they've announced new tougher restrictions, but still quite wishy washy. Schools open. Non essential retail open, though no January sales apparently.

    I think they're in deep trouble.

    They have double our population. Is that 1 days cases?


  • #7794
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    They have double our population. Is that 1 days cases?

    pretty much regular output for cases. Much lower numbers at the weekends, but all in all fairly typical reporting.

    219 deaths today too. So they're already in the ****, and it's just going to get worse and worse


  • #7795
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    2488 cases
    61 deaths.

    1923 in hospital as of 2pm of which 210 are in ICU


  • #7796
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    2488 cases
    61 deaths.

    923 in hospital as of 2pm of which 210 are in ICU

    Im presuming you mean 1923 in hospital or can we have an a party about 1000 hospital discharges?

    Rip to those who died.


  • #7797
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,684 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    923 in hospital, I thought there was around 2000. I presume thats 1923


  • #7798
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    2488 cases
    61 deaths.

    923 in hospital as of 2pm of which 210 are in ICU

    wherent there like 2000 or so people in hospital a day or two ago with covid? thats some drop if so

    just saw you edit it to 1923, my bad


  • #7799
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Im presuming you mean 1923 in hospital or can we have an a party about 1000 hospital discharges?

    Rip to those who died.

    Yup my bad missed the 1 there.

    Post edited


  • #7800
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,449 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Icyseanfitz wrote: »
    wherent there like 2000 or so people in hospital a day or two ago with covid? thats some drop if so

    Its not, I missed the 1.

    1923


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  • #7801
    y2k2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭y2k2020


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    people who tested positive for Covid in the last 28 days.

    That part is important

    People have other things wrong with them as well you know


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