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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**
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save the trouble and jazz it upJoin Date:Posts: 741
History Queen wrote: »Hi carr62, predicted grades are inherently unfair. Our system isn't set up for it. There is a lack of consistency in the data used (my English HL class got x amount of tests while the teacher in the class next to me gave Y amount of tests multiply this out across every subject and school). The Department of Education are incapable of applying a bell curve in the impartial way that the SEC applies it (as evidenced by last year's debacle). Teachers and students were treated awfully last year. Also remember we had NO contact with our students once predicted grades were called last year. If they were to be brought in LC students would finish classes now. Anyone looking for predicted grades this year,in my opinion, much like last year, does not understand the ramifications of what they are asking for.
Also I'm reading a lot of cases where people are using the excuse of "not having the course covered " as a justification for predicated grades. In an ordinary year most subjects the course would not be covered at this stage of the year.
The way forward in my opinion, is to bring classes in on rota when safe (50% in at a time) week on week off. Homework/exam papers/ study during week off and adjust the exam papers to allow greater flexibility in answers to allow for inconsistencies in access to remote learning.
Interesting insight there History Queen, as you're a secondary school teacher I do fully agree going fully predictive grades probably isn't the best route of action, but then again, what is? I'm able to admit that I'm not sure really how predictive grading would work and I know you're in the position where you know how that works, but I'm also in a position where I would probably do well with predictive grading in regards to my first choice course which isn't a ridiculous big amount of points. I'm not really sure as of right now, there IS a way to go forward.
The idea behind people being behind in their course/it not being covered is somewhat true. I've had a great quality of teaching in lockdown, but there's certainly schools/students at a disadvantage when it comes to class, and they really are way behind where the course should be for this time of year even if it's not usually all covered by now, (with frequent drop outs of calls, messy online teaching and worse quality due to technical issues etc.) Even in my own example, as I've mentioned this before we should be done our Geography Field study and the writeup by now, but we have to leave it until February at the earliest. This is quite late to be doing it, (it was originally planned for Easter last year!) I think the idea that students also struggle to really retain the information taught during home school is also a real issue to many families. I know we had to re-go over Brazil again when it was taught in Lockdown for Geography, because the information was taught very quickly and poorly Online, where I was just doing pass paper questions and not really retaining anything properly, everyone is different in that regard too, remember that.
The theory of the 50% capacity is interesting, and does have logic to it, I would like to be in school being taught at some point, even if it's only a day or two a week, but we really need to let transmission be suppressed until then. We'll never get to the point of a safer community on Ireland if we jump the gun, I mean it took 3 months to get transmission on the island down back in the first lockdown, and now we're about 10x worse than that.
Even if we have to sit a LC, I do hope the exams are really amended to knock stuff off instead of just "adding extra questions." Many students would be doing grinds now in subjects they struggle in, but as of currently, for some people I know, they can't do grinds because of the pandemic at this point in time, so they can't improve with help on their subjects, (like me and German, or my gf and Maths) in a 1 on 1 basis.
We're just going to see how things go, hopefully there's a safe and fair option for everyone, and I very much value your insights as a teacher towards this thread, so thank you for that!
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