Wifi mesh systems

Bluefoam · 18-01-2021 02:11PM

54and56 wrote: »

The TT router admin app doesn't use a password, instead it uses a form of 2 factor authentication. You enter your email address as the username and then hit a "send code" button which emails a 6 digit code that you have 5 minutes to enter in the app to gain access.

I tried entering the code into the Chrome login/password option but no joy.

Have you tried not putting in any information and clicking to log in? Just a stab in the dark.

RangeR · 18-01-2021 02:15PM

54and56 wrote: »

The TT router admin app doesn't use a password, instead it uses a form of 2 factor authentication. You enter your email address as the username and then hit a "send code" button which emails a 6 digit code that you have 5 minutes to enter in the app to gain access.

I tried entering the code into the Chrome login/password option but no joy.

A bit off topic but not sure I like that. What happens if you have no internet to send the email?

54and56 · 18-01-2021 03:55PM

Bluefoam wrote: »

Have you tried not putting in any information and clicking to log in? Just a stab in the dark.

:eek: Worked a treat. I skipped straight past that option this morning thinking it couldn't possibly be left wide open and tried admin / admin etc etc but yep it's wide open!!!

Thanks.

Now to figure out how it's set up etc.

One step at a time starting with creating a username and password!!

54and56 · 18-01-2021 04:10PM

RangeR wrote: »

A bit off topic but not sure I like that. What happens if you have no internet to send the email?

Yeah, I thought the same thing. The app is phone based and you remain logged in indefinitely so I guess it's low risk unless someone gets hold of your phone and has the unlock code/pattern and/or you are unable to access email on the phone for some reason.

It doesn't sound like a great / comprehensive solution but I do use Google Authenticator for other apps so it seems the assumption increasingly is if you're accessing an app / online facility you must have internet access and by extension (for TT anyway) email access.

Damien360 · 18-01-2021 06:12PM

dam099 wrote: »

By default Virgin usually have customers on a hybrid IP4/IP6 system DS-Lite. You need to ring them and ask them to switch you to IP4, modem mode should be available once they do that (may need a reboot).

I forgot that. I have it in IPV4 only mode as I asked for it. I use a VPN for work from home and it’s not IPV6 compatible.

whowantstwoknow · 18-01-2021 10:33PM

I have the tplink deco m4, running in ap mode connected to my router hub. Having constant problems with the WiFi mesh having no Internet access, while the vf gigabox WiFi signal shows I have Internet.

I've reset these twice, getting hassle from family to fix. Before turning my chips in with amazon any suggestion for troubleshooting?

Thanks W.

Should these units be given static ip addresses from the router DHCP server?

Gooey Looey · 18-01-2021 10:38PM

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

I have the tplink deco m4, running in ap mode connected to my router hub. Having constant problems with the WiFi mesh having no Internet access, while the vf gigabox WiFi signal shows I have Internet.

I've reset these twice, getting hassle from family to fix. Before turning my chips in with amazon any suggestion for troubleshooting?

Thanks W.

You should disable WiFi on the Vodafone gigabox!

whowantstwoknow · 18-01-2021 11:13PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

You should disable WiFi on the Vodafone gigabox!

Why it's a different ssid and subnet?

Gooey Looey · 18-01-2021 11:30PM

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

Why it's a different ssid and subnet?

Because it can cause interference, there are limited channels available. You are just creating noise!
If you need a second SSID create a virtual ap on the mesh

Sheep Shagger · 18-01-2021 11:35PM

Dumb question, have had google WiFi for a couple of years. The original VM signal still comes up as an avaliable network (in addition to the Google WiFi network and that's what we have each device use).

Is that right or should thd original VM one be dead, sometimes devices can flick to the VM signal and we have to manually switch it back to the Google WiFi signal.

Gooey Looey · 18-01-2021 11:37PM

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Dumb question, have had google WiFi for a couple of years. The original VM signal still comes up as an avaliable network (in addition to the Google WiFi network and that's what we have each device use).

Is that right or should thd original VM one be dead, sometimes devices can flick to the VM signal and we have to manually switch it back to the Google WiFi signal.

You haven't disabled it, you need to. Some routers have a WiFi button not sure about the VM one

whowantstwoknow · 18-01-2021 11:45PM

Gooey Looey wrote: »

Because it can cause interference, there are limited channels available. You are just creating noise!
If you need a second SSID create a virtual ap on the mesh

Appreciate that is all true, but it allows me to verify the ISP is still up. Main unit Led remains Red while the Ethernet cable inbound to unit is fine using a laptop connected directly to said cable. power cycle no affect.

Thanks W.

Gooey Looey · 18-01-2021 11:51PM

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

Appreciate that is all true, but it allows me to verify the ISP is still up. Main unit Led remains Red while the Ethernet cable inbound to unit is fine using a laptop connected directly to said cable. power cycle no affect.

Thanks W.

Good luck with the troubleshooting of an intermittent wireless issue that could be interference! Have you ever tried disabling it to see do you still have issues? Wireless left on auto channel selection will hop about looking for a better channel giving you issues exactly like this.

whowantstwoknow · 18-01-2021 11:54PM

Its the units themselves which are having the issue, for example hard-wired devices at the end of the daisy-chain had no internet connectivity.

Gooey Looey · 18-01-2021 11:57PM

whowantstwoknow wrote: »

Its the units themselves which are having the issue, for example hard-wired devices at the end of the daisy-chain had no internet connectivity.

Oh. Sounds more like faulty devices if they are dropping out hardwired. I'd be returning them for a refund!

How many daisy chains we talking about here? Describe your setup. Daisy chaining switches can bring about it's own set of problems, you should always be aiming for hub and spoke.

RangeR · 19-01-2021 09:39AM

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Dumb question, have had google WiFi for a couple of years. The original VM signal still comes up as an avaliable network (in addition to the Google WiFi network and that's what we have each device use).

Is that right or should thd original VM one be dead, sometimes devices can flick to the VM signal and we have to manually switch it back to the Google WiFi signal.

You are double natting. Unless you know what you are doing, the VM router should be in bridge mode and wifi off.

Gooey Looey · 19-01-2021 09:43AM

RangeR wrote: »

You are double natting. Unless you know what you are doing, the VM router should be in bridge mode and wifi off.

Exactly. Or the mesh set in AP mode.

You will not troubleshoot issues when you have double NAT and other WiFi radios enabled. Remove these issues and your troubles will most likely vanish!

Clareman · 19-01-2021 11:30AM

Another option for those with Nest Wifi and SIRO is just to use the PPoE setting in the router, hook it up to the SIRO cable and it should work, will remove the ISP supplied router completely. I've never managed to get it to work but I haven't tried either.

Cyrus · 19-01-2021 11:34AM

Clareman wrote: »

Another option for those with Nest Wifi and SIRO is just to use the PPoE setting in the router, hook it up to the SIRO cable and it should work, will remove the ISP supplied router completely. I've never managed to get it to work but I haven't tried either.

ive been doing that with FTTH for 2 years now across 3 providers, works fine,

using a ubiquiti router.

dam099 · 19-01-2021 12:26PM

Clareman wrote: »

Another option for those with Nest Wifi and SIRO is just to use the PPoE setting in the router, hook it up to the SIRO cable and it should work, will remove the ISP supplied router completely. I've never managed to get it to work but I haven't tried either.

You would still need to do the VLAN tagging too which I didn't think Nest WiFi supported?

Fireball81 · 19-01-2021 11:04PM

RangeR wrote: »

You are double natting. Unless you know what you are doing, the VM router should be in bridge mode and wifi off.

Thanks, thats the problem, I don't really.

How do you put the VM router into bridge mode and turn the WiFi off? Just googled it and wasnt the clearest.

I should say our BB is pretty good apart from the occasional switching of devices between the Vm network and the Google one although sounds like what I'm doing isn't the best anyway.

RangeR · 20-01-2021 10:41AM

Fireball81 wrote: »

Thanks, thats the problem, I don't really.

How do you put the VM router into bridge mode and turn the WiFi off? Just googled it and wasnt the clearest.

I should say our BB is pretty good apart from the occasional switching of devices between the Vm network and the Google one although sounds like what I'm doing isn't the best anyway.

Not sure on the bridging part. I have mine bridged already so can't access the web ui unless I reset it. Don't really want to do that. However, it was a simple enough process. I went through the menus and it was there staring me in the face. Router mode or bridged mode [maybe labelled modem mode]. Don't be afraid of going through the menus.. You cannot break anything this way, once you don't change stuff willy nilly.

Turning off WIFI is just as easy. It's in one of the menus. There is a page that lists your 2.4 and 5Ghz SSID's. On that page there is the option to turn off or disable them both.

The WIFI thing might happen automatically when you enter bridge mode, not sure.

You want to turn off your VM wifi for a few reasons.
1. You want all of your wifi traffic going through your Google WIFI so it can manage connections effectively [port forwarding, static IP's, speed tests etc] and provide it's inbuilt security.
2. If you connect to the VM wifi while in bridge mode [assuming wifi even works while bridged], you are on the internet without any form of protection. There will be no firewall or NAT protecting you.
3. You want the least amount of WIFI transmitters as possible to reduce interference. Turning off the VM wifi will effectively give a boost to your Google WIFI.

Hurrache · 20-01-2021 11:47AM

Fireball81 wrote: »

How do you put the VM router into bridge mode and turn the WiFi off? Just googled it and wasnt the clearest.

When you log into your modem you may see a Bridge Mode option. If you don't, you're still on IPv6 so ask Virgin to switch you to IPv4. Once they do you'll be able to see it then and just select it to put it into bridge mode which will also turn off the WiFi.

RangeR wrote: »

I have mine bridged already so can't access the web ui unless I reset it.

It's at http://192.168.100.1/ in bridge mode so no need to reset it.

bonsai_73 · 23-01-2021 05:14PM

Hi, hoping someone here can answer a question if possible please. I recently set up the Deco M4 (3 units) in the house, and looking for advice on how to set the existing router to bridge mode. This is all completely new to me, so if anyone could tell me the steps I need to follow to sort this, I'd be very grateful. It's a Fritz Box 7530, and at the moment I have the Fritz Box and the Deco network both showing up as available to connect to. Thanks.

tobdom · 25-01-2021 10:15AM

bonsai_73 wrote: »

Hi, hoping someone here can answer a question if possible please. I recently set up the Deco M4 (3 units) in the house, and looking for advice on how to set the existing router to bridge mode. This is all completely new to me, so if anyone could tell me the steps I need to follow to sort this, I'd be very grateful. It's a Fritz Box 7530, and at the moment I have the Fritz Box and the Deco network both showing up as available to connect to. Thanks.

As far as I'm aware you don't need to put the FritzBox in bridge mode, just disable the wifi network on it and let the Deco take over

RangeR · 25-01-2021 10:24AM

tobdom wrote: »

As far as I'm aware you don't need to put the FritzBox in bridge mode, just disable the wifi network on it and let the Deco take over

Then you will get double NAT. Not a thing you want if asking the original question. Actually, you probably wouldn't notice unless you are into online gaming or running services/services in your home. For general browsing, double NAT shouldn't effect you too much.

I'm seeing a lot of contradictory bits of info as to if the Fritzbox can be bridged at all. Maybe that's just carrier FUD. Look back a few pages. Some people have Fritz Boxes and may have already answered the question.

54and56 · 25-01-2021 11:34AM

Hi all,

With a lot of help from you guys I recently purchased a three node Tri-Band AC3000 mesh system which is working very well.

I want to forward port 25565 so I can host a MineCraft server but despite setting up a virtual server the port remains closed.

Apologies if this isn't a mesh specific question but on the old Asus router port forwarding was a 5 second login, set and forget job. Apologies if I'm being dumber than usual

Gooey Looey · 25-01-2021 12:40PM

54and56 wrote: »

Hi all,

With a lot of help from you guys I recently purchased a three node Tri-Band AC3000 mesh system which is working very well.

I want to forward port 25565 so I can host a MineCraft server but despite setting up a virtual server the port remains closed.

Apologies if this isn't a mesh specific question but on the old Asus router port forwarding was a 5 second login, set and forget job. Apologies if I'm being dumber than usual

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Are you double NATting or have you an IPV4 or IPV6 IP address? Need more info on your setup, provider etc

Damien360 · 25-01-2021 02:04PM

54and56 wrote: »

Hi all,

With a lot of help from you guys I recently purchased a three node Tri-Band AC3000 mesh system which is working very well.

I want to forward port 25565 so I can host a MineCraft server but despite setting up a virtual server the port remains closed.

Apologies if this isn't a mesh specific question but on the old Asus router port forwarding was a 5 second login, set and forget job. Apologies if I'm being dumber than usual

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Edit that and remove your IP addresses. You need to port forward for the IP of the PC on your network not the external IP. I did it with mine so I reserved an IP on network for the PC in question(192.168.....) and then port forwarded to that IP both UDP and TCP.

BoardsMember · 25-01-2021 03:57PM

Hi - hoping someone can help. I have VF broadband, wired from the router to Ubiquiti Networks UBI-UAP-AC-PRO 24/5Ghz 450/1300Mbps 122m.

Issue I am trying to solve is weak signal at the back of house. The Ubiquiti is on the front wall, near the ceiling. Old house, solid walls.

I know mesh is not the right answer, but we're about 12 months from a re-wire, so am looking for some kind of stop-gap solution to get better signal into the back bedroom for schooling from home.

Any thoughts?

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