Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

I see the true MAGA believers online reckon Trump is still going to be inaugurated on the 20th January. They are claiming Trump is going to make an address to the world no less and all the Democrats including Joe Biden and Mike Pence will be arrested on live TV at the inauguration after which Trump will be sworn in. Batshit crazy stuff.

Muahahaha wrote: »

I wonder when Trumps pardon list will land, the days are running out now. One man who is desperate to be on it is rapper Lil Wayne, he endorsed Trump before the election no doubt in a quid pro quo to get a pardon. He was arrested on his private jet with a gold plated Glock, coke, heroin and amphetamines and it wasnt his first offence. His sentencing date is Jan 28th so if Trump doesnt come through for him he is looking at around 10 years in prison.

The reports are that Trump has been told by his advisors that he can't pardon himself because it would open him to massive civil cases. As Trump only thinks of himself his attitude will likely be: if there's no pardon for me, then there's no pardon for anyone else.

Overheal wrote: »

Trump is being a HUGE crybaby about Rudy now:

“Trump has instructed aides not to pay Giuliani’s legal fees, two officials said, and has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president’s behalf to challenge election results in key states.

This sums up Trump.
Rudy is no use now, time to stiff him.
Same as he stiffed all those contractors and anyone else that did some work for him.
Only out for himself and no-one else matters.

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

IMO, in four minutes Tom McClintock (Ca) sums up the sorry state of affairs in the US at the moment and what is to come. The only honesty since the 6th. The very people who contradict such an obvious statement act in bad faith.

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1349462585226231811

Very difficult to take anyone seriously when they are wearing a mask that has written on it 'this mask is useless'.

Also, you can't get any more bad faith than trying to blame BLM for the actions of these white terrorists. Absolute nonsense to claim they weren't held accountable for their actions over the summer when you compare the treatment of those protesters by the police and the soft touch policing last week.

Cruz Stocky Steak wrote: »

If Trump is anything in his character traits, he is predictable.

I doubt he'd even be loyal to his own kids if it came to it.

He just torched any future political careers they might have been considering as well as putting the Trump brand name in the dirt.

There is a sense of schedenfraude about the whole thing.

stoneill wrote: »

This sums up Trump.
Rudy is no use now, time to stiff him.
Same as he stiffed all those contractors and anyone else that did some work for him.
Only out for himself and no-one else matters.

It’s fundamentally stupid though. As soon as he leaves office he’s under indictment. It’s a guarantee at this point. E Jean Carrol is coming for his DNA sample too.

He just signaled to every attorney in the country that he will stiff their payment, too. So the likelihood of one of these big firms who didn’t sign on to fight his election conspiracies for him will certainly not be back to fight for him in a criminal court proceeding. And he doesn’t have the money to pay up front. He’s snookering himself. He will only get folks like Alan Dershowitz who do it for their own infamy.

gutenberg wrote: »

Apologies if this has been posted already: Trump & Guiliani have fallen out in the past week, the Guardian (via Washington Post) reports:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/14/trump-refusing-to-pay-rudy-giuliani-legal-fees-after-falling-out

The report says the falling out has increased the president’s sense of isolation and abandonment since the events of 6 January. And of course, it also calls into question whether Giuliani will receive a pardon.

Rudy has come out of the all this as as bad, if not worse than Trump...

walshb wrote: »

Rudy has come out of the all this as as bad, if not worse than Trump...

That hair dye must be covering him head to toe at this stage.

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

IMO, in four minutes Tom McClintock (Ca) sums up the sorry state of affairs in the US at the moment and what is to come. The only honesty since the 6th. The very people who contradict such an obvious statement act in bad faith.

https://twitter.com/willchamberlain/status/1349462585226231811

What did you think was the core message and was it all truth?

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1349730838045290500?s=19

Tell me how wrote: »

Absolute nonsense.

He must have stopped listening to Trumps speech after the first few minutes.
So much for the Republicans being the party of 'Law and Order' with a supposed love for the constitution and the flag.

They want to let someone off with inciting a mob to interrupt Congress from carrying out their constitutional duties while some of this mob removed the American Flag from the Capitol and replaced it with the Flag of the insurrectionist.

And the icing on the cake of hypocrisy, many of these people who spent the last year bleating about Blue Lives Matter, attacked several police officers at the Capitol resulting in the death of one of them.

I laughed with this clown gave the speech in the first place, I laughed again now watching it.
And as for you, saying it is the only honesty since the 6th? Are you for real?

Leaving aside the accusation of incitement where his supporters will always remind everyone that Trump did use the word, 'peacefully', Trump did tell a mob of supporters to go down, gather at Capitol hill as a way to encourage those inside to overturn an election that he insists was rigged, even though no credible evidence of this has been found. That, by itself, is seismic. He wanted to subvert a democratic election.

And before anyone chimes in with, "Yes, but the Democrats and Trump and Russia!"...


No.

A) Hillary Clinton conceded the day following election night. I'm sure she was sick, but she did concede. How long did it take Trump, again?

She didn't lead an angry mob of her supporters down to the Capitol building, hoping this could get those inside to overturn the result.

C) The Russia investigation produced a lot of evidence of Russian interference and the arrests of several people who worked for Trump. What's the 'stolen election' legal battle produced besides utter humiliation for Trump's legal teams?

So, the two are in no way comparable. Trump's behaviour has been absolutely and especially disgraceful these last 2 and a bit months, and those defending it don't really have a leg to stand on.