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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4652
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    SleetAndSnow wrote: »
    It’s 3% higher today

    7-day has dropped 1.2%, and there is generally a little uprise on a wednesday in daily figures.


  • #4653
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Is this effect of the resumption in mass testing in nursing homes and hospitals? Or is that still to come in?
    Restarted today.


  • #4654
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Restarted today.
    Might lead to dip in positivity then tomorrow or Friday.


  • #4655
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,754 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    7-day has dropped 1.2%, and there is generally a little uprise on a wednesday in daily figures.

    Yeah I know I was just replying to his general positivity down a bit more comment. Trend is still good overall.


  • #4656
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Restarted today.

    So it's not the source if extra swabs today.

    Probably people ringing their gp on monday as they were closed over the weekend.


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  • #4657
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    SpacialNeeds wrote: »
    Luke O'Neill that diabolical cretin seemed to suggest with some inside knowledge that the deaths are going to be going up and up in the coming days. I thought 46 was absolutely appalling but I'm prepared to be even more shocked today.

    Tony Holohan said it yesterday. Philip Nolan and Ronan Glynn have both said it recently, it's not news and nothing got to do with inside knowledge.

    You must not have been paying attention.


  • #4658
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    So it's not the source if extra swabs today.

    Probably people ringing their gp on monday as they were closed over the weekend.
    Yep. Every Wednesday, like clockwork.

    Could probably accurately predict the % bump at this stage :)


  • #4659
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    HSE operations report from last night
    Still 6 hospitals with over 100 cases each and 6 Hospitals with over 10 cases in critical care an increase of 1 hospital.
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  • #4660
    Pete_Cavan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,374 ✭✭✭Pete_Cavan


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Restarted today.

    Do we have capacity for 23k tests per day on top of mass testing in nursing homes and hospitals or will general testing drop to facilitate mass testing?

    The positivity rate probably should be reported including and excluding the mass testing element to allowfor like for like comparisons.


  • #4661
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,056 ✭✭✭✭fits


    There are lots and lots of pages of recent deaths on rip.ie I don’t know how it compares to a normal january. Lots of younger people too.


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  • #4662
    c68zapdsm5i1ru
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,709 ✭✭✭c68zapdsm5i1ru


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Within minutes of my last post my wife told me about a family where someone went out to different restaurants before Christmas over a few nights with a few different groups and brought it home. Her Mother is ventilated since last night. She passed it to her boyfriend and 3 year old, and then the mother on Christmas Day. Went to visit a friend on Christmas Eve and it’s spread through that family too. One of those in hospital, but recovering. The girl herself is absolutely fine, both physically and mentally, by mentally I mean her conscience is apparently absolutely clear as she “stayed within the rules” and sure the government said restaurants were safe.

    I absolutely despair, while at the same time am a little envious people could be that ignorant and anxiety free about it all. I think the thing I’m struggling most with, and will continue to struggle with after this is over, is the sheer amount of stupidity and selfishness there is out there.

    She's either very very stupid, or self centred to an almost dangerous level. Most people would be absolutely gutted to think their own lack of responsibility had done that much damage.


  • #4663
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    fits wrote: »
    There are lots and lots of pages of recent deaths on rip.ie I don’t know how it compares to a normal january. Lots of younger people too.

    Seamus Coffey (economist) tracks the overall data here - quite an increase in January compared to last year.

    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1349292577498009600


  • #4664
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    While the overall trend is downward, and will be, if we were told on 1st December that we'd have 3,856 positive swabs on 13th January, almost mid month, there would be gasps.

    1,250 swabs was considered huge in October. This is 3 times that. To filter down through an already creaking health system.


  • #4665
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Seamus Coffey (economist) tracks the overall data here - quite an increase in January compared to last year.

    https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1349292577498009600

    Hardly unexpected really is it. 44 deaths yesterday is a lot in a country the size of Ireland


  • #4666
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    This chart represents how often the people from every country in the EU plus the UK did things like visit pubs, restaurants, museums, shopping centres etc.
    I couldn't find data on Cyprus.

    I think it's pretty damn conclusive from this what went wrong, but I'm sure others will manage to draw different conclusions so I'll present it without comment for now.

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  • #4667
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    seamus wrote: »
    There's today's hiccup

    3,856 positive swabs out of 23,590 tests. 16.35%.

    Still a very downward trajectory.

    This day last week was 6,862 swabs @ 24.19%

    Was expecting a bump up, but a little disappointed with the scale of it. Anyway, the GP referral data was particularly good today so better numbers tomorrow I hope!


  • #4668
    Rebelbrowser
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,348 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    This chart represents how often the people from every country in the EU plus the UK did things like visit pubs, restaurants, museums, shopping centres etc.
    I couldn't find data on Cyprus.

    I think it's pretty damn conclusive from this what went wrong, but I'm sure others will manage to draw different conclusions so I'll present it without comment for now.

    539337.png


    That does also show how rules compliant we are. Tracks very closely the regulations.


  • #4669
    pauldry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,461 ✭✭✭pauldry


    fits wrote: »
    There are lots and lots of pages of recent deaths on rip.ie I don’t know how it compares to a normal january. Lots of younger people too.

    I actually looked at our normal death rate and whats excess at the moment if you go by rip.ie theres approximately 10 extra deaths a day at present than normal.


  • #4670
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Pete_Cavan wrote: »
    Do we have capacity for 23k tests per day on top of mass testing in nursing homes and hospitals or will general testing drop to facilitate mass testing?

    The positivity rate probably should be reported including and excluding the mass testing element to allow for like for like comparisons.
    The HSE said they were doing it at last week's briefing. Capacity is now about 27K-28K, with the German lab added. There is also a "new" lab coming but no details on that so far.


  • #4671
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Arduach wrote: »
    While the overall trend is downward, and will be, if we were told on 1st December that we'd have 3,856 positive swabs on 13th January, almost mid month, there would be gasps.

    1,250 swabs was considered huge in October. This is 3 times that. To filter down through an already creaking health system.
    I can't find it now, but there was a poster on one of the threads in mid December who said we were on track for over 1000+ cases a day come New Years and they were given dogs abuse and called a doom monger who must love misery and lockdown etc.

    In response others reassured us that we'd probably be down to double figures by New Years since there's actually a conspiracy to hide the truth that schools are the major spreader, and with schools closed transmission will drop to almost nothing.


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  • #4672
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I can't find it now, but there was a poster on one of the threads in mid December who said we were on track for over 1000+ cases a day come New Years and they were given dogs abuse and called a doom monger who must love misery and lockdown etc.

    In response others reassured us that we'd probably be down to double figures by New Years since there's actually a conspiracy to hide the truth that schools are the major spreader, and with schools closed transmission will drop to almost nothing.

    I remember, said 1000 or so on xmas eve and was scoffed at, it was 922. Christmas day went over 1k.


  • #4673
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I can't find it now, but there was a poster on one of the threads in mid December who said we were on track for over 1000+ cases a day come New Years and they were given dogs abuse and called a doom monger who must love misery and lockdown etc.

    In response others reassured us that we'd probably be down to double figures by New Years since there's actually a conspiracy to hide the truth that schools are the major spreader, and with schools closed transmission will drop to almost nothing.



    That's the worst thing about this pandemic and life in general now because of social media. People being suspicious of everything. It's funny people think there's a big conspiracy and their government is trying to contol them when really it's more likely that China and Russia etc post false stories to destabilise democracies in the west.

    They dont understand the amount of freedom we actually have. They can spread any kind of lies they want. In other less free countries this doesn't happen because it wouldn't be tolerated.


  • #4674
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    https://twitter.com/byrne_padraig/status/1349377037421735937?s=20


  • #4675
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    CrabRevolution wrote: »
    I can't find it now, but there was a poster on one of the threads in mid December who said we were on track for over 1000+ cases a day come New Years and they were given dogs abuse and called a doom monger who must love misery and lockdown etc.

    In response others reassured us that we'd probably be down to double figures by New Years since there's actually a conspiracy to hide the truth that schools are the major spreader, and with schools closed transmission will drop to almost nothing.

    In the run up to reopening (late November) I remember sayi g that the decision guaranteed new lockdown in early January if we were lucky. If we were unlucky Martin and Veradker would be addressing the nation as we sat down to Christmas Dinner to tell us that we were locking down to Stephens day.

    That was the reaction I got (along with I want to gargle pints shut up)


  • #4676
    Datacore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 178 ✭✭Datacore


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's more of control in Ireland.. Whose fault is it in each country?
    Rebelbrowser wrote: »
    That does also show how rules compliant we are. Tracks very closely the regulations.

    It also shows we had a rather poor understanding of how the virus behaves. Instead of being sensible about it, around Christmas many people seemed to behaving like school kids when the bell rings. So the minute the rule changed they went off on a mad rush to do everything.

    I think the fundamental issues were 1) over hyping Christmas and going into this mad notion that we had done all this hard work to somehow “save Christmas” and 2) People who seemed to have gone mad on going home for Christmas, both Irish people and those living in the U.K.

    The communication was poor, but it wasn’t just from government. A lot of it came from our Hallmark ideas of “the magic of Christmas”. Most of Europe isn’t as hyped about Xmas. It tends to be a lot more sedate in many countries on the continent. In France for example it’s often quite boringly a religious festival.

    That’s a cultural difference and I think when it comes to Christmas we are a lot more like Americans than we are like Europeans. We can’t get enough of Santa and shopping!

    I think many just assumed you could lock down, save Christmas, lock down again and somehow the virus would be contained and give us a break for the few days of magic and Santa hats. Unfortunately, it’s a virus and has no sentiment or brain.


  • #4677
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,135 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    Stheno wrote: »
    Positivity down a little bit more

    https://twitter.com/COVID19DataIE/status/1349364334368088064?s=20

    Compared to yesterday 5753 extra tests carried out and 1400 more positive swabs.


  • #4678
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,056 ✭✭✭✭fits


    Datacore wrote: »

    That’s a cultural difference and I think when it comes to Christmas we are a lot more like Americans than we are like Europeans. We can’t get enough of Santa and shopping!

    Christmas seems like a much bigger deal here than anywhere else I can think of. The spending is incredible. Multiples of our European neighbours. It’s not as big a deal in US either.

    I love Christmas in Ireland but yes it was a recipe for disaster this year. It’s awfully sad


  • #4679
    griffdaddy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭griffdaddy


    I wonder when things do open up again (whenever that may be) is there anything to be said for a more gradual easing of restrictions rather than opening everything from a single date? I'd imagine the stop/start nature of the opening and closing is driving demand when things finally do open. If restaurants/pubs opened, say Monday to Thursday for lunch and between 5 and 9 and/or with a third of capacity allowed and gradually increased over a number of weeks, would that be reflected in more manageable case numbers while satisfying some of the pent up demand? This might be problematic from a supply/staffing point of view though.


  • #4680
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,677 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Johnson sounding the alarm bells regarding the new variant circulating in Brazil.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1349379986449428483


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  • #4681
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    In the run up to reopening (late November) I remember sayi g that the decision guaranteed new lockdown in early January if we were lucky. If we were unlucky Martin and Veradker would be addressing the nation as we sat down to Christmas Dinner to tell us that we were locking down to Stephens day.

    That was the reaction I got (along with I want to gargle pints shut up)

    17 december was fun as well. TonyMaloney posted a google activity file called wearef***ed and got the same abuse.


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