Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

pixelburp wrote: »

Like I've said before, Trump's the poor man's idea of a rich man. Ye Gods. That's horrendous decor really; if you didn't know any better you'd assume it was the interior of some tinpot dictator's "Presidential Palace"

Yet we had a poster here (forgot which one) who claimed Trump retiring and living in his golden palace with his trophy wife is the life we should all aspire to and we were just jealous of him :pac:

briany wrote: »

Pretty high stakes gambit from Trump to become president in order to duck some charges and some debts. Why not just feck off to Dubai?

Firstly, I don't think the initial plan was actually to become POTUS. It was a PR exercise. He needed to boost his brand since his TV career had waned and this seemed like a good way to do it. Lots of free airtime. I don't think he thought he would get through the primaries.

Then, he saw the potential that an actual campaign could deliver. I still don't think he thought he had a change, and IMO when things like the Pussy Tape appeared he probably wished he hadn't. But he fought back and with such a poor candidate of HC he managed to win.

I do think he really enjoyed that campaign. He had nothing to lose. His Trump name, ie brand, was everywhere. He was nearly 24hr on every news station. He was the main man for the GOP, finally being given the respect and accorded the prominence he always felt was his right.

After the shock and bemusement of winning, he soon realised the gold mine he had won. He had the entire country under him. He had all these amazing powers. He didn't just have people that worked for him, he had people that wanted to work for him and would do anything he said.

He had the military to play with, anything was possible. Think of the real estate deals he could make.

But slowly he dawned on him the true extent of the job. The actual decisions. The fact he couldn't possibly, not him but POTUS position, ever make everyone happy. And there were plenty of people out to get him just because. And he didn't get to choose when he wanted to be in the limelight. It was everyday, everywhere. And people were forever asking him questions, and saying he could o this or that.

My guess is he thought that as POTUS he could do anything. There was literally nothing he couldn't do. But suddenly the SCOTUS, the House, the media, hell even the Senate were telling him he couldn't do this, he couldn't say that.

This wasn't fun anymore. So rather than tryo to adapt t the job, he said feck it all, I'm just going to do what I want. If I can't win, then don't even bother. Get what you can out of this.

But greed and hubris got the better of him. Instead of accepting the prize he had won in 2016, taken the spoils and gone back to the life he actually wanted, he wanted to win for no other reason than winning became the end in itself.

2020 was never about MAGA, or policies, or the future. It was simply about not losing. And now he has ended up with nothing. He has lost all that respect he though he had gained. Nobody seems to want to stick with him. Poeple openly mock him.

So it was never about avoiding charges, it started off as a shot to nothing, at worst people would want to visit his hotel, maybe he could charge more at his gold courses. And that would protect him for lawsuits, because money protects you from everything

It looks like the set of Showgirls.

So I see he’s going to Alamo, Texas and not the famous Alamo but maybe there’s an Alamo landscaping company there. I mean it’s happened before. I doubt where he’s going is be accident. He sees himself as victim in this whole mess of his own creation.

There's a brilliant hour-long video on YouTube called 'A Portrait of Donald Trump' by Vic Berger and Vice News which perfectly captures the mental fever dream that was his presidency. The 5 minutes of him saying 'billions and billions and billions' over different clips is incredible.

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

To reinforce this point, he didn't even have an actual policy platform for his 2nd run. Normally they present that at the R.N.C. This year they didn't bother. When asked about what he wanted for a second term he couldn't say anything beyond meaningless platitudes like "Keep America Great".

Actually on this point. Does the Republican party not have a policy now? Isn't their policy for the next 4 years just whatever their great and glorious leader says if I recall correctly?

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Seems to have forgotten his roots. His mother was born and raised as one of ten children in a bothán.

Having listened to multiple books it appears his mother shunned that particular heritage . Disavowing her own past and looking down on others especially new comers from Scotland to the US.

He didn't pick his attitude up all by himself , it was learned from both the parents.

Deleted User wrote: »

Alamo, Texas is the Alamo where the Battle of the Alamo occurred.

Alamo Texas is named for the place where it took place but the building isn’t in Alamo Texas.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Alamo, Texas is the Alamo where the Battle of the Alamo occurred.

No, The Alamo is in the centre of San Antonio. Alamo, Texas is about 4 hours drive away

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

To reinforce this point, he didn't even have an actual policy platform for his 2nd run. Normally they present that at the R.N.C. This year they didn't bother. When asked about what he wanted for a second term he couldn't say anything beyond meaningless platitudes like "Keep America Great".

Well, tbf, he did say that he was now used to sleeping in Washington DC, so you know, there was that!

Trump today insinuating that there will be violence if they try and get rid of him. He really hasn't learned a thing.

Hearing him today I was struck by how pleasant it was not hearing him for the better part of a week. Looking forward to this becoming months.

I’ve tried to limit watching or listening to Donald trump talk for most of this year because what he says is just verbal mush. I do see that he believes his statement about the riots was perfect and it’s been analysed so it’s good. He somehow brought the protests in the summer which are the real problem not the ****show last Wednesday.

I also see that Jonathan Karl of abc news is reporting that trump is of the opinion that if he can’t pardon himself then nobody gets a pardon. So those waiting for a pardon including his adult children wouldn’t want to hold their breath. He’s such a child it’s amazing.

BluePlanet wrote: »

I don't see why Republicans wouldn't move to impeach Trump along with the Dems.
It's an opportunity to put Trump to pasture permanently and quickly get some closure on Trumpism so they can reclaim some of those conservative 'principles' they used to talk about.

There going down a rabbit hole with over 20 years, it's not just Trump. Very hard to turn back.