Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

Philip Nolan explanation of backlog cases was shocking.

We can see the swab numbers, does he think were fools.

Why is he defending the indefensible.

Something like that would really bring into question anything they try to tell us.

Half truths, mis-truths, shocking

BBC NI reporting that 91,954 vaccines have been administered in NI so far.

68,664 have received one Pfizer dose
13,949 he received two Pfizer doses
9,341 have received Astra Zeneca

So 78,005 individuals have had at least one injection so far which amounts to about 4% of the population of NI. Long way to go, but I think that represents a doubling of vaccinations in a week.

BringBackMick wrote: »

Philip Nolan explanation of backlog cases was shocking.

We can see the swab numbers, does he think were fools.

Why is he defending the indefensible.

Something like that would really bring into question anything they try to tell us.

Half truths, mis-truths, shocking

NPHET and the HSE are a joke . Same posters defending everything they do on here . Would make you think

mean gene wrote: »

Norths a basket case has a lot to do with our high numbers

On a positive they have 4th highest vaccination rate in the world.

Anyone have the number of people vaccinated in Ireland handy?

bilston wrote: »

BBC NI reporting that 91,954 vaccines have been administered in NI so far.

68,664 have received one Pfizer dose
13,949 he received two Pfizer doses
9,341 have received Astra Zeneca

So 78,005 individuals have had at least one injection so far which amounts to about 4% of the population of NI. Long way to go, but I think that represents a doubling of vaccinations in a week.

Sweet.Science wrote: »

NPHET and the HSE are a joke . Same posters defending everything they do on here . Would make you think

We are vaccinating with what we have, how do you expect to administer vaccines we don't yet have in our hands?

runawaybishop wrote: »

We are vaccinating with what we have, how do you expect to administer vaccines we don't yet have in our hands?

How do you know . Last we knew 15k were done

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

It was all a bit odd. He was showing us a chart which showed there was a backlog (cases today could be tests from the last 3 days) while telling us there wasn't a backlog.

He actually said there's always a delay with reporting cases. Generally it's 24-72 hours. So some cases reported today are from swabs over the previous 72hrs. That's the norm. The backlog (taking in excess of 72hrs) has been cleared.
So going forward the cases being announced are from swabs over the past 72hrs.

Makes sence, then swabs start going up, your reporting over the previous 3 days, so cases will look lower then swabs. Then when swabs reduce like now, the cases are being reported over 72hrs when the swabs were higher.

caveat emptor wrote: »

I nearly lost you there at main stream media but hung in for the rest of the post. So it's their fault people lost the run of themselves in December and Christmas?
Wouldn't be partially the governments fault for opening up during silly season?

That's some mental gymnastics but ok.

There is one thing I blame the main stream media for though. Sh!te telly.

Mainstream media’s role in Ireland over Covid would make a very interesting study. I’ve posted on this many times before. If they stuck to more facts instead of worry metrics, Amárach polls, and the politics of it all, people might not have switched off.
Do you agree or disagree that George Lee is supposed to be a Science / Environment reporter for RTE? He seems to have morphed into NPHET spokesperson instead, and to top it off - doesn’t even understand the data he’s spewing and constantly makes erroneous statements. I find this extremely irritating. Does he report on any other scientific news?
Fergal Bowers is much more balanced.
I didn’t anywhere in my post suggest it was the media’s fault or NPHET’s re Christmas. I’ve previously also posted re the perfect storm of conditions re Christmas surge:
1. Lockdown for Spring - last to emerge from it in Europe.
2. First into Lockdown in Europe in October - told Christmas could be ‘meaningful’. Cue people making all sorts of plans to get through the latest restrictions then, this lockdown with poor Communication from NPHET - aka Level 2-5 overnight and the Government questioning its rationale - had many people doubtful of its necessity. I say this as meeting people daily who would always pull together in a crisis - there were question marks from the public re Level 5 in Oct.
3. Pressure cooker activities - people cooped up for weeks set free in December - frantically shopping, meeting people, getting in as much as possible. Some clearly completely losing the run of themselves, shebeens, house parties, big family gatherings, you name it.
4. U.K. variant and increased transmissibility. What people got away with before re parties etc, before - they didn’t at Christmas as we’d a new arrival in town - Covid B 117 U.K. variant. This message from NPHET this evening was lost on me - they seem to be at pains to limit the new variant as the single major issue that’s changed despite even Prof Nolan’s forecasting models not predicting these numbers. It seems they’re more focused on figure pointing and reopening and it just seems bizarre. What is the intention of that? I also would be concerned about this moving forward - will NPHET want Level 5 indefinitely?

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Saw a tweet (which could be straight from a WhatsApp conspiracy group for all I know) that a medical person 9n BBC said today that there may be many people with immunity to covid 19 as a result of catching previous covid variants of the common cold.

Could be/probably nonsense, and has that ring of plausibility that means it could be just another one doing the rounds but maybe someone has a view.

I would not discount it. There is still a lot to learn about this virus. Unfortunately many people may never know they even had it.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The vaccine roll out order was supposed to be
1.over 65s in care homes
2. Health care workers
3. Over 70s
4. Health care workers not in direct contact with patients

Why are we seeing health care workers going before over 65s in care homes? My friends missus is a nurse on maternity leave. She was booked in for last Friday even though she won't have contact with patients for another 6 months.

Seems like the order has been pissed all over.

They are doing Group 1 and Group 2 simultaneously .

I would imagine for operational and/or logistics reasons. If you cannot vaccinate care home patients on a particular date/time, you might as well start on the next group if they're available. Otherwise you'll cause even further delays.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The vaccine roll out order was supposed to be
1.over 65s in care homes
2. Health care workers
3. Over 70s
4. Health care workers not in direct contact with patients

Why are we seeing health care workers going before over 65s in care homes? My friends missus is a nurse on maternity leave. She was booked in for last Friday even though she won't have contact with patients for another 6 months.

Seems like the order has been pissed all over.