When will it all end?

Speakerboxx · 10-01-2021 9:04pm #1

When will things go back to normal?

With vaccines now available will we be here In January 2022 with covid dominating the news headlines? I would love to know.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 10-01-2021 9:06pm

Speakerboxx wrote: »

When will things go back to normal?

With vaccines now available will we be here In January 2022 with covid dominating the news headlines? I would love to know.

It won't be dominating the news in January 2022. It may still be a news item.

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:07pm

Not this year is my realistic view. Positive view is maybe by Xmas this year.

Vaccine rollout will be slower than they say and then we’ll have supply issues.

The people who haven’t followed the rules so far will go mad in the summer months causing lockdown 4 with the HSE saying we’re too close now to go back to square one.

Just my view of course.

Richard Hillman · 10-01-2021 9:21pm

They'll still try and make you wear masks for flu season. I wouldn't be surprised if the pub time limit restrictions remained. Holohan ain't going away unless his book deal is spectacular. Although he probably won't be able to walk away from a role where he can control people.

10-01-2021 9:22pm

It won't end!

ShineOn7 · 10-01-2021 9:25pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Holohan ain't going away unless his book deal is spectacular. Although he probably won't be able to walk away from a role where he can control people.

:rolleyes:

(it doesn't deserve more effort than a smilie)

Cerveza · 10-01-2021 9:28pm

I am hopeful for the summer. If people just stick with the agenda for a few more months then we can all get some normal back.

FintanMcluskey · 10-01-2021 9:29pm

Cerveza wrote: »

I am hopeful for the summer. If people just stick with the agenda for a few more months then we can all get some normal back.

1st heard this in March 2020

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:31pm

Cerveza wrote: »

I am hopeful for the summer. If people just stick with the agenda for a few more months then we can all get some normal back.

Absolutely no chance that things will be back to normal in 6 months, we won’t even be out of full lockdown for another month at least. They’ll barely have the over 60’s vaccinated by then either.

Birdie086 · 10-01-2021 9:36pm

I wonder what we will be arguing, on the internet, about when all this is finally over

Donald Trump · 10-01-2021 9:37pm

Speakerboxx wrote: »

When will things go back to normal?

With vaccines now available will we be here In January 2022 with covid dominating the news headlines? I would love to know.

Things are normal now.

Just a new normal

prunudo · 10-01-2021 9:38pm

Oscar Madison wrote: »

It won't end!

I'd agree with this, it will get better but don't think it will ever go away. Hopefully come April we'll be back to some sort of level 2 or 3 type restrictions. Beyond that, Jan 2020 style normal may be a long long time away.

ByTheSea2019 · 10-01-2021 9:39pm

I saw Matt Hancock in the UK saying most likely we need vaccination on an annual basis. If it takes a year to vaccinate the population, we'll need a group of professionals dedicated to doing this as their permanent job.

Man Vs ManUre · 10-01-2021 9:39pm

This world will end in August 2021. Better book that tkt to Mars.

Man Vs ManUre · 10-01-2021 9:40pm

ByTheSea2019 wrote: »

I saw Matt Hancock in the UK saying most likely we need vaccination on an annual basis. If it takes a year to vaccinate the population, we'll need a group of professionals dedicated to doing this as their permanent job.

Will it be free again next year??

beggars_bush · 10-01-2021 9:41pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

. Although he probably won't be able to walk away from a role where he can control people.

Chief Medical Officer in shock attempt to try and protect people's health!!

Montage of Feck · 10-01-2021 9:43pm

The old curse of "it'll be over by Christmas" strikes again.

ByTheSea2019 · 10-01-2021 9:43pm

No idea whether the vaccine will be free every year. Imagine it would have to be to incentivise everyone to do it.

10-01-2021 9:44pm

Expect things to improve this year but we won't be out of the woods. My expectation as a 33 year old healthy individual is not to be vaccinated this year. I expect them to have to loop back around to the people being vaccinated now before it gets to me.

Sure Trump could pull a hissy and press the red button in the next 10 days the way he is going on.

Pauliedragon · 10-01-2021 9:45pm

ByTheSea2019 wrote: »

I saw Matt Hancock in the UK saying most likely we need vaccination on an annual basis. If it takes a year to vaccinate the population, we'll need a group of professionals dedicated to doing this as their permanent job.

There's plenty of out of their head heroin addicts who manage to inject themselves regularly so surely it can't be that hard to train sober people to do it.

cazzer22 · 10-01-2021 9:47pm

I think it will follow the path of the Spanish flu and we will be dealing with it until March/April 2022. It will more than likely just disappear and like another poster said, we I'll need to be vaccinated for it annually.

snowcat · 10-01-2021 9:48pm

Next 2 weeks are critical.

antimatterx · 10-01-2021 9:49pm

When would vaccines be available to people in their mid 20s? Probably Fall by the looks of things?

Cerveza · 10-01-2021 9:49pm

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

1st heard this in March 2020

We are a year on now, think about it.

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:50pm

snowcat wrote: »

Next 2 weeks are critical.

Care to elaborate on how or why?!?!

PTH2009 · 10-01-2021 9:51pm

Sooner rather than later hopefully

Think we cant have a repeat of last summer with us still in a very strong lockdown with most of Europe opened up. Cant see Dr Tony letting go of his hold on the pubs

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:51pm

Cerveza wrote: »

We are a year on now, think about it.

Yep and the cases now are exponentially higher than a year ago. So what are we thinking about, not sure what point you’re making.

snowcat · 10-01-2021 9:52pm

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Care to elaborate on how or why?!?!

Google it

antimatterx · 10-01-2021 9:53pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Sooner rather than later hopefully

Think we cant have a repeat of last summer with us still in a very strong lockdown with most of Europe opened up. Cant see Dr Tony letting go of his hold on the pubs

They should have vaccination centres in a pub, once you get a vaccine, you can order a pint (without food). I guarantee it would increase uptake.

snowcat · 10-01-2021 9:53pm

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Yep and the cases now are exponentially higher than a year ago. So what are we thinking about, not sure what point you’re making.

Cases are but we were not testing a year ago.

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:56pm

snowcat wrote: »

Google it

Wow great input. Thanks for coming, you’ve been very helpful!

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:57pm

snowcat wrote: »

Cases are but we were not testing a year ago.

We didn’t know about it a year ago!! If you’re not going to say anything of use what’s the point?

snowcat · 10-01-2021 9:57pm

HalfAndHalf wrote: »

Wow great input. Thanks for coming, you’ve been very helpful!

No worries

The HorsesMouth · 10-01-2021 9:57pm

I have no idea why people think we still be in lockdown in the summer...am I missing something here? Why are we vaccinating the vulnerable, elderly and HCW in January and February which will lead to a dramatic fall in deaths? What is it all for if we don't get back to some normality?
Also...the money is gonna run out sometime!

HalfAndHalf · 10-01-2021 9:59pm

snowcat wrote: »

No worries

Ok, I’ll bite. What’s your problem?

normanoffside · 10-01-2021 10:01pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

T Holohan ain't going away unless his book deal is spectacular. Although he probably won't be able to walk away from a role where he can control people.

He'll probably want a movie, who will he want to play him?

Cerveza · 10-01-2021 10:01pm

The sooner pubs open the better, some one in the horrors it seems.

daheff · 10-01-2021 10:02pm

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

I have no idea why people think we still be in lockdown in the summer...am I missing something here? Why are we vaccinating the vulnerable, elderly and HCW in January and February which will lead to a dramatic fall in deaths? What is it all for if we don't get back to some normality?
Also...the money is gonna run out sometime!

Younger people get sick and die from Covid too...it's not just old and frail that die from it.

In my view it'll be mid 22 before we get back to anything like the old normal.
I can see 21 being a lot of lockdowns gradually easing as we vaccinated more people. But until all countries are vaccinated we won't be out of this.

If it gets to a stage where we need annual boosters, well then we might see a number of flare ups for a few years across the globe until it burns out.

never_mind · 10-01-2021 10:02pm

I’d imagine the roll out will happen quicker with new vaccines coming down the pipeline. Once front liners get their vaccines they’ll be able to work and will no longer be on covid leave meaning we’d have a better team of people sorting it. The Johnson and Johnson one is a single dose so that could be a winner.

No one knows but I’d imagine things will be vastly improved by summer and once October hits and a budget is being revealed, the economic rather than the health results or covid will be centre stage

snowcat · 10-01-2021 10:04pm

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

I have no idea why people think we still be in lockdown in the summer...am I missing something here? Why are we vaccinating the vulnerable, elderly and HCW in January and February which will lead to a dramatic fall in deaths? What is it all for if we don't get back to some normality?
Also...the money is gonna run out sometime!

Anyone hoping the death rate will fall rapidly with vaccines are in for a shock surprise. It wont happen. The people who die with Covid are 90 % on the way out already. UK have been vaccinating for a month allready and there is still the same death rate. Israel no real reduction in death rate with 15% of population vacinated

Atlantic Dawn · 10-01-2021 10:05pm

The wind will be blown out of its sail by summer 2021, there simply won't be enough people dying from it then as they will be vaccinated.

Beasty · 10-01-2021 10:06pm

There is a limit. We cannot go beyond LXXXVII. It will all end before then....

:P

mcburns07 · 10-01-2021 10:06pm

daheff wrote: »

Younger people get sick and die from Covid too...it's not just old and frail that die from it.

In my view it'll be mid 22 before we get back to anything like the old normal.
I can see 21 being a lot of lockdowns gradually easing as we vaccinated more people. But until all countries are vaccinated we won't be out of this.

If it gets to a stage where we need annual boosters, well then we might see a number of flare ups for a few years across the globe until it burns out.

In a tiny numbers of cases. Even now with cases at an all time high, how many young people are seriously ill or dying from it? Do you have some stats to back up your claims or is it based on RTE rounding up every horror story they can find?

And please don't Long Covid me...

Van.Bosch · 10-01-2021 10:06pm

snowcat wrote: »

Anyone hoping the death rate will fall rapidly with vaccines are in for a shock surprise. It wont happen. The people who die with Covid are 90 % on the way out already. UK have been vaccinating for a month allready and there is still the same death rate. Israel no real reduction in death rate with 15% of population vacinated

15% in Israel aren’t vaccinated, they are partially vaccinated.

PTH2009 · 10-01-2021 10:07pm

normanoffside wrote: »

He'll probably want a movie, who will he want to play him?

Gerard McSorley

A mix between his John Gilligan and the judge character he played in Inside i'm dancing

Atlantic Dawn · 10-01-2021 10:08pm

Covid has kicked the winter flu's ass, not heard a single case of it since March 2020.

The HorsesMouth · 10-01-2021 10:08pm

daheff wrote: »

Younger people get sick and die from Covid too...it's not just old and frail that die from it.

In my view it'll be mid 22 before we get back to anything like the old normal.
I can see 21 being a lot of lockdowns gradually easing as we vaccinated more people. But until all countries are vaccinated we won't be out of this.

If it gets to a stage where we need annual boosters, well then we might see a number of flare ups for a few years across the globe until it burns out.

But if we are mostly vaccinated by June say...why wouldn't restrictions be lifted? I'm genuinely asking this question here...why is it going to take 2 years of vaccination??
And if 90% of deaths occur in the elderly and vulnerable...are we really going to stay under serious restrictions for the other 10%? Again...a genuine question here.

sibersha · 10-01-2021 10:09pm

I think we are in for another couple of months of harsh lockdowns.

Then in spring / summer when most of the vulnerabile have been vaccinated, we will be living with some iteration of level 3/4 restrictions.

Hopefully as the year progresses, vaccination supplies are ramped up. But I think once there is adequate supply of vacancies the next hurdle will be convincing the skeptics to receive it.

LordBasil · 10-01-2021 10:09pm

I think the vaccine rollout will accelerate significantly both here and across Europe in the coming months, especially when the Oxford vaccine is approved and many of the current problems have been resolved. There will be growing pressure from the media, business groups and the public to get it going much more efficiently, this has already started to happen.

If I had to guess on the timescales for re-opening of Ireland;

Mid Feb: Schools and Construction.

March: Non-Essential retail, Golf, Tennis

April: Outdoor Dining, Gyms, Larger attendance at weddings and funerals.

May: Indoor dining.

June: Wet pubs, Theatres, Bingo Halls, Cinemas. Family gatherings.

July: Non-essential foreign travel allowed without having to isolate for 2 weeks if you have been vaccinated or get negative Covid test.

August: Work from home recommendations gradually lifted. Capacity limits on public transport increases.Crowds can attend sports events outdoors but not full capacity.

September: On campus attendance for 3rd students. All staff can return to offices. Conferences and exhibitions can take place.

October/ November: Most restrictions lifted as concerts can go ahead and nightclubs open. Full attendance at sporting events.

Christmas as normal. Hopefully....

The HorsesMouth · 10-01-2021 10:09pm

snowcat wrote: »

Anyone hoping the death rate will fall rapidly with vaccines are in for a shock surprise. It wont happen. The people who die with Covid are 90 % on the way out already. UK have been vaccinating for a month allready and there is still the same death rate. Israel no real reduction in death rate with 15% of population vacinated

WTF is the point of the vaccine then???

Silentcorner · 10-01-2021 10:11pm

This current surge will be past us in a couple of weeks....we will mistakenly credit the lockdown for this.

We will go back to testing healthy people and chasing cases which in my view is a huge mistake...we won't see a surge like this again until next winter, but we will see cases every day until then.

We need to stop the daily numbers pantomime.
We need to stop testing healthy people.

The reason we saw the current surge was not because of people celebrating Christmas, there was similar behaviour witnessed when the restrictions were relaxed back in the summer and there was no surge...it is the time of year when our immune systems are at their weakest.

We should be back to normal by March....but I can't see that happening if we keep on doing what we have been doing since the thing began....it's like we haven't learned a thing!!!

When will it all end?

Comments