Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Transcript of Hitler's 1923 Beer Hall Pitsch speech

Some very familiar themes in there.

Note how Hitler never outright tells them to commit violence, and instead just uses a lot of violent rhetoric. These same people 98 years ago would be using the same defense that this was all being twisted against Hitler by the media and politicians of the time.

Of course the beer hall putch failed, and many of those same people claiming this wasn't a big deal, 98 years ago would have also taken this proof that everyone was overreacting, creating a mountain out a molehill, and trying to vilify his supporters who were only interested in ha ing their voices heard.

One key difference of course, is that Hitler partook in the Putsch while Trump only told his supporters he would do the same... before waddling back go the White House to try and use the situation to force the senators who were in fear for their lives, to switch their vote. Had that succeeded, it would have been a relatively bloodless coup (e.g. Not hundreds/thousands dead) similar to Mussolini March on Rome (which Mussolini also did not join).

Beer Hall Putsch, for anyone unfamiliar.

March on Rome.

pjohnson wrote: »

And as for "only wanting to talk" her new group (that she was loyal to, not America) bludgeoned a police officer (who would have sworn to protect) to death.

ABC News is reporting that authorities believe the officers death was driven by a medical condition. That reports of an attack on police officer haven't been confirmed and they are seeking video or imagery that might support that claim.

At the same time his family made a statement: "Many details regarding Wednesday's events and the direct causes of Brian's injuries remain unknown and our family asks the public and the press to respect our wishes in not making Brian's passing a political issue".

I think people should tone down the claims until the cause of death, and indeed the events leading up to it, are clarified.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It's quite amazing that some people justify the shooting and/or killing of a black person by what they were doing (however minor), what they did in the past, what they may have been thinking of doing, what the shooter thought they were thinking of doing or what the person they were with was doing (and so forth).
Yet when a white person gets shot after invading government buildings with an armed mob having threatened to capture and/or murder members of the government and trying to climb through a window with armed guards on the other side protecting the area where these government members under threat were located, all of a sudden it "could have been handled better".

That's pointless statement because it can very easily be used in both directions.

When a <insert race here> person is killed by police it's justified, but when a <insert other race here> person is killed it 'could have been handled better'.

Not everything is about race.

Sand wrote: »

ABC News is reporting that authorities believe the officers death was driven by a medical condition. That reports of an attack on police officer haven't been confirmed and they are seeking video or imagery that might support that claim.

At the same time his family made a statement: "Many details regarding Wednesday's events and the direct causes of Brian's injuries remain unknown and our family asks the public and the press to respect our wishes in not making Brian's passing a political issue".

I think people should tone down the claims until the cause of death, and indeed the events leading up to it, are clarified.

None of that really matters when he'd be alive today if the capital hadn't been attacked by terrorists.

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm pretty sure some posters would be claiming the Nazis weren't actual Nazis at this stage.

Oh they already do, they say there were actual socialists!

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm pretty sure some posters would be claiming the Nazis weren't actual Nazis at this stage.

Hitler: Instructs army to invade neighbouring countries

Allies: Invade Germany

Hitler: You're so vicious, you know that? So vicious. So unfair.

Christy42 wrote: »

Just stop. They wore nazi apparel. They hung nazi flags. They were same type who were happy to march alongside the nazi flag in Charlottesville. They went to marches advertised with nazi symbology. They are nazis. We know they are nazis. You are arguing for nazis.

The claim made was Trump was leading a Nazi group to take over congress and murder the politicians inside. I don't recall any media making such a claim in their reporting. Trump/Qanon extremists is the terminology I recall being used.

Sand wrote: »

ABC News is reporting that authorities believe the officers death was driven by a medical condition. That reports of an attack on police officer haven't been confirmed and they are seeking video or imagery that might support that claim.

At the same time his family made a statement: "Many details regarding Wednesday's events and the direct causes of Brian's injuries remain unknown and our family asks the public and the press to respect our wishes in not making Brian's passing a political issue".

I think people should tone down the claims until the cause of death, and indeed the events leading up to it, are clarified.

Here you go knock yourself out, videos/pics of where the officer died.

https://mobile.twitter.com/No_Nazis_Please/status/1348033093647675395

One instance shows the officer face down on the steps being hit with poles, and his helmet being removed..

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

Here you go knock yourself out, videos/pics of where the officer died.

https://mobile.twitter.com/No_Nazis_Please/status/1348033093647675395

One instance shows the officer face down on the steps being hit with poles, and his helmet being removed..

Twitter is your source? Look, send that on to the police. I'm sure they'll be interested in reviewing it.

flazio wrote: »

Typical Boards thread. Actual news dies down and discussion goes down such a deep rabbit hole we've made it to Nazi Germany.

What I'll say is this. It's fantastic that Trump is leaving but let's not give Biden an easy ride of it. At the heart of the Black Lives Matter... whatever you want to call that action .... is a real social injustice. That seems to have got lost somewhere or drowned out by other legitimate cries of social injustice.
For those that called out social injustice during the Trump administration, what has Biden promised beyond getting Trump out of office. Whatever it is, pressure should remain to make sure he delivers. Whatever about the false promises of making America great. Keep pressure on the Democrats to make America better.

I think the whole matter of incitement to insurrection and the new impeachment had to be dealth with first.

But I see your opportunity to sweep and move on. Many GOP leaders attempting the same.


Not gonna happen though.

Kumejima wrote: »

How anyone can argue that Trump wanted these people to instigate a coup and overthrow democracy is beyond me? Really? Wow, I know Trump isn't a career politician but you would have thought that, if he wanted to instigate a coup, you know maybe don't rely on a bunch of Yahoos and hooligans? I don't know, maybe use, uh, the military? Isn't that Coup Planning 101?

Or, you know, infiltrate the universities, and over 3 generations have thousands of professors sympathetic to your cause pump out millions of True Believers from their Seminaries of Socialism who then go onto infiltrate media, local government, the legal system and politics so that when the time was right they could help you steal an election and cover for you in the government and media about it afterwards. You know like the Left have just done.

As to BLM vs Trump supporters attacking federal buildings, the difference between "resistance" and "insurrection" is merely corporate backing. Nothing else.

There is a chance that the military command would not follow his order.

Gob****e yahoos on the Mall? they'll do whatever he asks them. Plenty would be hoping that, given enough of a spark at the start that it would turn into a wildfire.

Don't forget that some of these people are seriously deluded to begin with.

Would it be likely? Probably not. Would it be impossible - I wouldn't say so either.

As I said before though and I'll repeat again, I was shocked that they overran the Capitol. I still am