Trump v Biden 2020,The insurrection (pt 6) Read OP

Looks like Parler is dead!

The big tech companies pulled support for the “free speech” social network, all but killing the service just as many conservatives are seeking alternatives to Facebook and Twitter.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/09/technology/apple-google-parler.html

Robert ninja wrote: »

Then resources like bricks left for rioters (with Bill Gates having financial connections) and buses driven around to resupply antifa terrorists. Not a peep about that on the news.

ROLF

Sometimes I am just amazed how human beings managed to out-evolve all other species on this planet.

jill_valentine wrote: »

So this line of guys turn out to be the Oathkeepers -

https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1348115530654347266

Oathkeepers are a far right group which recruits primarily from ex military and police. The name comes from their idea that they're holding true to the concept of their oaths, in a way serving soldiers and cops aren't by taking orders from the government (or rather, the people government they don't like).

It's a neat little trick in that it lets them off the hook for turning traitor and it renders soldiers and cops who stand in their way, like the cop killed, fair game.

I think a lot of the American myth about "military = hero" has been unravelling recently.

Hammer Archer wrote: »

It's quite amazing that some people justify the shooting and/or killing of a black person by what they were doing (however minor), what they did in the past, what they may have been thinking of doing, what the shooter thought they were thinking of doing or what the person they were with was doing (and so forth).
Yet when a white person gets shot after invading government buildings with an armed mob having threatened to capture and/or murder members of the government and trying to climb through a window with armed guards on the other side protecting the area where these government members under threat were located, all of a sudden it "could have been handled better".

Deleted User wrote: »

Weird, you're ignoring the multiple explosive devices found. The people who had tasers and cable ties to hold politicians hostage. The multiple resignations because of the response.. Do you think they're terrorists out of interest?

Also ignoring multiple guns found, and either ignoring or unaware of the fact that Trumps. Secretary of defense was refusing to send the national guard or any assistance) verified by the giver or of Maryland) while trump was at the same time delighted about all of this and calling senators inside trying to pressure them to put him back in as president (as per republican Ben sasse who was in the white house at the time).

pjohnson wrote: »

I think a lot of the American myth about "military = hero" has been unravelling recently.

The thing is, in the US, policing is a relatively easy route to prestige and power with little accountability. It's not like here where you have to write a thesis and all kinds of stuff to qualify, as bad as the Guards are, it's not very selective, so if you have a taste for playing strongman and didn't do great in school, it's perfect. It means that along with genuinely dedicated cops - that young fella caught in the doors - you have a lot of school bully types who now get to carry weapons and are almost immune from consequences. A friend of mine once told me to bear in mind that every traffic stop meant the chance of having the dumbest jerk you went to school with walking up to you with a gun on his hip while he stands up and you sit down.

The military has a little less leeway in what people can get away with at home, but abroad is another matter, and it needs so many bodies all the time it can't always afford to be picky.

In both cases, very easy and likely for white supremacists to infiltrate, both because it suits their goals (inside men) and because it scratches their angry powertrip arsehole urges. We know white supremacist groups encourage their members to sign up for reason 1 and that the FBI was raising the alarm about this for years.

There is an interesting flipside to the military stuff though - because for a lot of PoCs or young poor Americans the military can be the only chance for college or a trade, the ex military demo be a lot more diverse politically overall than people think. It's just that people who got into the military for crackpot reasons will take those crackpot reasons back out with them afterwards.

All these guys banging on about "BLM this.... BLM that.." - Do you know what BLM are not doing?

They're not on the same side as the Nazis. How that is not all people need to know is beyond me.

If you are on the same side as the Nazis, then you are on the wrong side.


These people who attacked democracy, their grand parents and great grandparents knew how to deal with Nazis.

Nice video of the peaceful protests here

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Transcript of Hitler's 1923 Beer Hall Pitsch speech

Some very familiar themes in there.

Note how Hitler never outright tells them to commit violence, and instead just uses a lot of violent rhetoric. These same people 98 years ago would be using the same defense that this was all being twisted against Hitler by the media and politicians of the time.

Of course the beer hall putch failed, and many of those same people claiming this wasn't a big deal, 98 years ago would have also taken this proof that everyone was overreacting, creating a mountain out a molehill, and trying to vilify his supporters who were only interested in ha ing their voices heard.

One key difference of course, is that Hitler partook in the Putsch while Trump only told his supporters he would do the same... before waddling back go the White House to try and use the situation to force the senators who were in fear for their lives, to switch their vote. Had that succeeded, it would have been a relatively bloodless coup (e.g. Not hundreds/thousands dead) similar to Mussolini March on Rome (which Mussolini also did not join).

Beer Hall Putsch, for anyone unfamiliar.

March on Rome.

pjohnson wrote: »

And as for "only wanting to talk" her new group (that she was loyal to, not America) bludgeoned a police officer (who would have sworn to protect) to death.

ABC News is reporting that authorities believe the officers death was driven by a medical condition. That reports of an attack on police officer haven't been confirmed and they are seeking video or imagery that might support that claim.

At the same time his family made a statement: "Many details regarding Wednesday's events and the direct causes of Brian's injuries remain unknown and our family asks the public and the press to respect our wishes in not making Brian's passing a political issue".

I think people should tone down the claims until the cause of death, and indeed the events leading up to it, are clarified.