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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #2882
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Suppose the numbers going down is a good thing

    I think the numbers mean very little at this stage. They've proved they can't even maintain a proper detection and reporting system.


  • #2883
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,456 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    To be fair we are blessed with the weather since Level 5+ kicked in. It does help keep people positive. It's like last Spring with people out walking and cycling again (when the roads thaw).
    There are a few elderly people living near me and they do seem a lot less scared than they were in March-May 2020 despite the hospital capacity concerns. I guess there were way more unknowns during the first lockdown.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #2884
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,362 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I think the numbers mean very little at this stage. They've proved they can't even maintain a proper detection and reporting system.

    My understanding is there the decider of lockdowns

    Dont knw about anyone else but **** me this is a slow month


  • #2885
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    My understanding is there the decider of lockdowns

    Dont knw about anyone else but **** me this is a slow month

    We will probably need to restore testing of close contacts before we talk about opening up.


  • #2886
    Bubbaclaus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭Bubbaclaus


    StevenToast wrote: »
    Its saturday

    How does the day of the week reduce the positivity rate of the swabs taken?


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  • #2887
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    My understanding is there the decider of lockdowns

    Dont knw about anyone else but **** me this is a slow month

    They might be, but that doesn't mean they are accurate.

    January is always a lockdowny kind of month anyway. I'd love a sun holiday. I'm so sick of snow and wind and rain.


  • #2888
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    While we need to hear it it must be incredibly difficult on sick people at home listening to the constant talk of ICU filling up
    There are people sick with Covid who must be panicking when they hear of hospitals being in crisis

    This. Everyone in my house has it at the moment..2 adults 3 kids..and just hoping our symptoms stay as they are...extremely mild


  • #2889
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Antares35 wrote: »
    They might be, but that doesn't mean they are accurate.

    January is always a lockdowny kind of month anyway. I'd love a sun holiday. I'm so sick of snow and wind and rain.

    Seriously what are you moaning about. Go bananas.Nobody is stopping you.

    https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en

    My user name is buyer beware in latin. I should change it to flier beware.

    https://twitter.com/AliNouriPhD/status/1346651705962856450?s=20


  • #2890
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Seriously what are you moaning about.

    Oh sorry I thought it was clear. I'm moaning about the weather and the lack of sun holiday. Did you not get that.


  • #2891
    Mike3549
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭Mike3549


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    I can't believe the seasonal myth persists. Like literally just look at Brazil, South Africa, Colombia, all facing much larger outbreaks in mid summer than they did during winter time. It may spread even faster in cold weather, but the only reason Europe didn't have COVID outbreaks in summer is because continent wide restrictions reduced levels of transmission to such minimal levels that it took a long time to build again, maybe hot weather and people being outdoors hammered that home, but it didn't cause it by itself.

    You are forgetting one major fact, that it was WINTER THERE during our summer.


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  • #2892
    PsychoPete
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,558 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Passed through a couple of towns today, didn't meet any checkpoints, plenty of traffic and alot of people out and about, young lads out playing football etc. I thought things would be a lot quieter


  • #2893
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Antares35 wrote: »
    They might be, but that doesn't mean they are accurate.

    January is always a lockdowny kind of month anyway. I'd love a sun holiday. I'm so sick of snow and wind and rain.
    Antares35 wrote: »
    Oh sorry I thought it was clear. I'm moaning about the weather and the lack of sun holiday. Did you not get that.

    Oh sorry I thought you were moaning about not being able to go on a sun holiday. Nothing is stoping you so you no point moaning. Some good deals going.
    You'd swear it was impossible.

    538917.jpg


  • #2894
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Just Vax and Go

    Its a bit like Shake and Vac


  • #2895
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I think the numbers mean very little at this stage. They've proved they can't even maintain a proper detection and reporting system.

    The same excuses were used to hush anything positive on this forum during the first wave. "we don't know what the real numbers are" "we can't rely in testing figures".

    The numbers are going in the right direction. We are locked down with a week now. By next weekend the figures will likely be below 1000 and hospital numbers will be starting to level off.


  • #2896
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    The same excuses were used to hush anything positive on this forum during the first wave. "we don't know what the real numbers are" "we can't rely in testing figures".

    The numbers are going in the right direction. We are locked down with a week now. By next weekend the figures will likely be below 1000 and hospital numbers will be starting to level off.

    Restrictions were increased on the 26th December


  • #2897
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Oh sorry I thought you were moaning about not being able to go on a sun holiday.

    538917.jpg

    I was. Your powers of comprehension astound me :)


  • #2898
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    The same excuses were used to hush anything positive on this forum during the first wave. "we don't know what the real numbers are" "we can't rely in testing figures".

    The numbers are going in the right direction. We are locked down with a week now. By next weekend the figures will likely be below 1000 and hospital numbers will be starting to level off.

    Yove made two different points here. One I agree with (things are going in a positive direction) and one is wildly optimistic.

    If cases are below 1,000 next weekend I will be dancing in the streets with happiness.


  • #2899
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Yove made two different points here. One I agree with (things are going in a positive direction) and one is wildly optimistic.

    If cases are below 1,000 next weekend I will be dancing in the streets with happiness.

    What are the chances of that? Seems we've passed the plateau so fingers crossed.


  • #2900
    Antares35
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    PsychoPete wrote: »
    Passed through a couple of towns today, didn't meet any checkpoints, plenty of traffic and alot of people out and about, young lads out playing football etc. I thought things would be a lot quieter

    Haven't seen any checkpoints then again only venture out with the dog. During the first one I encountered a few and heard anecdotally of others. Doesn't seem to be much Garda presence. Not sure it would make much difference either way.


  • #2901
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »
    This might be a dumb question but while I was out walking earlier I walked passed a guy who just blew a huge cloud of vape vapour (can't stand these vapers). As I passed I could smell it pretty clearly so I obviously breathed some of it in. Is there a tiny chance the virus could be transmitted this way?

    My uneducated view is that you could. Based on: It's pretty safe outdoors, and people walking by breathing normally are not too much of a threat to you once you are not on top of them. But vapers/smokers (and I say this as an ex smoker, not an anti smoker) generally exhale smoke/vape much more forcefully than normal exhalation. So you are clearly more likely to breath their vape in. If you are more likely to breathe their vape/smoke in, it seems reasonable that you are more likely to get contaminated by them, though I presume one breath as you pass is a low risk still.

    But personally, like joggers panting heavily as they pass me on the path, I'd prefer not to be in their downstream unnecessarily. I'm sure others will disagree.


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  • #2902
    iamwhoiam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,248 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    My uneducated view is that you could. Based on: It's pretty safe outdoors, and people walking by breathing normally are not too much of a threat to you once you are not on top of them. But vapers/smokers (and I say this as an ex smoker, not an anti smoker) generally exhale smoke/vape much more forcefully than normal exhalation. So you are clearly more likely to breath their vape in. If you are more likely to breathe their vape/smoke in, it seems reasonable that you are more likely to get contaminated by them, though I presume one breath as you pass is a low risk still.

    But personally, like joggers panting heavily as they pass me on the path, I'd prefer not to be in their downstream unnecessarily. I'm sure others will disagree.

    If I see a jogger coming towards me I will step out on the road to avoid their puffing in my space


  • #2903
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    The same excuses were used to hush anything positive on this forum during the first wave. "we don't know what the real numbers are" "we can't rely in testing figures".

    The numbers are going in the right direction. We are locked down with a week now. By next weekend the figures will likely be below 1000 and hospital numbers will be starting to level off.

    I'm not denying that numbers are positive or negative. I don't have an agenda either way and I'm not a doom monger though I'm aware there are plenty on here. I'm happy enough working from home and doing my own thing. Employer has also committed to allowing remote working in the future so I've no vested interest in hoping things remain bleak either.

    I'm just saying that I personally place little weight on the numbers.


  • #2904
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    Widdensushi wrote: »
    That might be frowned on by the curtain twitchers

    Exactly right. Its constantly the same. Its either the numbers won't go down because I seen 4 teenagers out on the green so things are out of hand or if the number are coming down they say we can't trust the numbers because testing isn't right.

    I see it this way. The lockdown works even if 10% of the population aren't complying fully and the numbers always reduce a week or so after the lockdown. 2 weeks after the lockdown we normally are in a lot better place. I think we can only really count January 1st as the start of things. There would still have been a lot of socialising between Xmas and New years but come Jan 1st most people were complying.


  • #2905
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Antares35 wrote: »
    What are the chances of that? Seems we've passed the plateau so fingers crossed.
    To go from 5000 swabs to 1000 swabs in a week (which is basically an average infection cycle would require an R number of 0.2.

    Thr lowest R number we have had according to Nolan is 0.5 iirc. During November lock down they don't think it ever got below 0.8.


  • #2906
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    To go from 5000 swabs to 1000 swabs in a week (which is basically an average infection cycle would require an R number of 0.2.

    Thr lowest R number we have had according to Nolan is 0.5 iirc. During November lock down they don't think it ever got below 0.8.

    Yes but you are not looking at what happened. We pretty much allowed a nationwide festival for two weeks which caused a huge increase in cases. Thats over. So i suspect the numbers will fall pretty quickly. Next week we will see the effect of no Xmas socialising etc.


  • #2907
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    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I travel across Galway county one evening a week and last night I was stopped at 3 Garda checkpoints during the 2 hour trip.
    I made the same journey around 40 times last year and only got stopped twice. Impressive increase of profile by the Gardaí.

    I have not been stopped at a single checkpoint in county Galway throughout the entire pandemic. Live 10k from the nearest supermarket and regularly drive to the city for work, so not as if I have been holed up at home. Have also traveled to Mayo at least once every two weeks to support an elderly relative including twice in the past week and again never say a checkpoint. Where do all these checkpoints be?


  • #2908
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,114 ✭✭✭prunudo


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Yes but you are not looking at what happened. We pretty much allowed a nationwide festival for two weeks which caused a huge increase in cases. Thats over. So i suspect the numbers will fall pretty quickly. Next week we will see the effect of no Xmas socialising etc.

    I tend to agree, maybe not to the 1000 mark but i think they will drop quickly over the next few days. Hopefully that allows them to test all close contacts again which might mean a rise again for a week or so but by the end of the month I think case numbers will be in a much better place. Unfortunately hospitals are another matter completely.


  • #2909
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,456 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    Yes but you are not looking at what happened. We pretty much allowed a nationwide festival for two weeks which caused a huge increase in cases. Thats over. So i suspect the numbers will fall pretty quickly. Next week we will see the effect of no Xmas socialising etc.

    I am thinking more like 18th before numbers start to fall quickly. I think there was a lot of socialising right up until the 3rd Jan. Then the big numbers (and backlog) came and people started reducing contacts again.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #2910
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I was. Your powers of comprehension astound me :)

    Don't be so negative. Take some agency. Go on a sun holiday if you really want to. I wouldn't be on an Internet forum saying I wish I could go on one when you clearly can.

    It's a choice. If you think it's a responsible thing to do or if your mental health requires it then do it. Literally nothing is stopping you.

    Life's to short to shoulda woulda coulda.


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  • #2911
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    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    If I see a jogger coming towards me I will step out on the road to avoid their puffing in my space

    Better being hit by a car I suppose


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