Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

caveat emptor wrote: »

Curve keeps going unfortunately. ~17% per day growth. Doubling time 4 days. Hopefully restrictions kick in and control it.

That's just cases though and doesn't take into account of the reporting backlog, isn't it? If so, it should be steeper on the uptick and starting to level off.

completedit wrote: »

Of course, we have a vaccine and there is an end in sight but we need perspective. It's not a tragedy if somebody dies at 83. It's many things but not a tragedy. We need to make sure that their death is graceful and the scenes of Lombardy are not repeated but I am hesitant to call it a tragedy. People can say what they want. Im not saying that to be heartless, I recognise that life is valuable and the people who passed have people who love them but we can't pretend like death is something we can avoid as if it's not something that will happen to us all.

So - in your mind - someone who dies early at 83 when they (without Covid) may have lived a full and lovely life until their nineties - is not a tragedy?

Who in the name of all that is good and pure are you to decide what deaths are tragic?

And BTW - you are heartless. I lost my father recently - and to me it was and still is a tragedy. And yes - I realize that I am sensitive.

Do you not think we should be doing all in our power to prevent this disease?

These types of posts make my blood boil. Have a heart.

Edit - apologies - I didn't see the threadban. Backing off!

Fly_away wrote: »

Has anybody in government, even with the benefit of hindsight (ignore for a moment that people predicted this - nobody was sure to what extent cases would rise), admitted that they made a massive mistake with the opening up around Xmas and allowing households to mix?

I think it's important for clarity sake and future communications that the government own up to this enormous error in judgment.

The public got what they asked for. Most of these decisions are in large part influenced and informed by public polls, most people in the country felt a relaxation of restrictions was necessary and appropriate. The government advised as much as they could,' you're not doing it right if Christmas feels the same 'campaign etc.. I really don't think the government can be blamed much for this.

How many strains / variants is there now, Wuhan China, UK, South Africa?

HereinBray wrote: »

So - in your mind - someone who dies early at 83 when they (without Covid) may have lived a full and lovely life until their nineties - is not a tragedy?

Who in the name of all that is good and pure are you to decide what deaths are tragic?

And BTW - you are heartless. I lost my father recently - and to me it was and still is a tragedy. And yes - I realize that I am sensitive.

Do you not think we should be doing all in our power to prevent this disease?

These types of posts make my blood boil. Have a heart.

I am very sorry for your loss , I lost my mum this year and she was far older than 83 . She was a huge loss to her large family

Endintheclowns wrote: »

I'm dumbfounded by these numbers and then seeing the amount of people out and about. I work as a truck delivery driver and in March and April the roads where virtually deserted with frequent Gardaí checkpoints now I hardly see any

At present all I see is a small reduction in traffic and people going about their lives as normal. We need to start taking this more seriously or else we are prolonging the lockdown even further.

Have you an update on the Dublin doctor that died in his bedroom overnight a couple of nights ago while self isolating? I haven't seen anything about it on the news, I'd have thought it'd be a major story.

lawred2 wrote: »

Is it?

Yes. There is an increase in the percentage admissions in younger age groups out of the total number of hospitalised cases.

Among admissions up to April 15th versus last 14 days up to 6th of January, the percentage of total hospitalised cases by age group has changed as follows:

0-24 years increased from 3.1% to 8.77%
24-34 years increased from 6.6 to 9.66%
35-44 years slight increase from 8.1% to 8.4%

435/901 people hospitalized in 14 day period up to 6/1/2021 are under 65 years.

kilkenny31 wrote: »

What a load of bull. Australia (A COUNTRY) has a hard border between its states during the pandemic. That is nonsense. Its inaction of the EU, nothing else just cowards not able to make tough decisions.

Elements in government ridiculously think they are protecting the economy by not protecting our borders. Ironically the exact opposite has occurred.

Billions have been lost on pup payments that would not have been necessary if sensible travel measures had been put in place.

Endintheclowns wrote: »

I'm dumbfounded by these numbers and then seeing the amount of people out and about. I work as a truck delivery driver and in March and April the roads where virtually deserted with frequent Gardaí checkpoints now I hardly see any

At present all I see is a small reduction in traffic and people going about their lives as normal. We need to start taking this more seriously or else we are prolonging the lockdown even further.

The fear is gone though, there will never be the same levels of compliance again like what we saw early last year. I used to get annoyed by other posters saying "well if you don't like it stay at home" but to be honest, every time I went out people were just acting the bollóx so much that I just decided to stay at home!

We are lucky both working at home. Get shopping delivered. Walk the dog on my lunch break might meet two or three other people max. And the rest of the world can do what it wants. Vaccine in sight, life is good.

But I feel sorry for anyone front line and healthcare workers etc who don't have the luxury to work from home and isolate, and who have to take on the fallout from other selfish gobshítes. Or elderly people living with their grownup kids who might be bringing covid back into the house etc.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

But as this is never going away, what happens when they open up? The entire population can’t be vaccinated every year. What’s the long game here? No supporters of zero Covid can answer that

It is
A) throw a wall around the country in perpetuity
live with the virus with as many getting vaccinated every year as possible (which realistically means the elderly, healthcare workers and the vulnerable)

Neither . C) roll out vaccinations every year to 2 years as necessary until either the virus dwindles due to lack of hosts or herd immunity achieved .

caveat emptor wrote: »

The figures vary wildly daily but the trend is clear. Here's hospitalisation if that helps.

If you rotate your screen we have flattened the curve I suppose

maebee wrote: »

When did the period of self-isolation from a positive result drop from 14 days to 10 days?

My son tested positive on Jan 4th and has been staying in his GF's house, where they're all positive, since then. He's asking can he come back home on the 14th

Isolation period varies depending on circumstances.

Positive test result:

Most people can stop self-isolating when both of these apply:

you have had no fever for 5 days
AND
it has been 10 days since you first developed symptoms

If you tested positive because you are a close contact, you may have no symptoms. In this case, you can stop self-isolating 10 days from the date of your test.

Negative test result

You may have been tested because you have symptoms of COVID-19 and your test was negative (virus not detected). If so, continue to self-isolate until you have no symptoms for 48 hours.

If the test was because you were a close contact, continue to follow advice for close contacts. You should restrict your movements for 14 days even if your test comes back negative.

https://www2.hse.ie/co...-self-isolating.html