BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

Andrew33 · 06-01-2021 08:40PM

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mazda-cx-7-2-3l-turbo-petrol/26678907

Manual CX7 with NCT til May, €2000

Tax is either €951 or €2400. These are class

That’s way too cheap for a CX7. Has to be a bad un

selectamatic · 07-01-2021 03:45AM

Andrew33 wrote: »

That’s way too cheap for a CX7. Has to be a bad un

Way too cheap is a bit of an exaggeration, to me it seems more like it's just simply priced to sell.

The only other one on DD is up for 3k dropped from €3500 with a full fresh nct but its been up over 20 days and still hasn't sold.

slipperyox · 07-01-2021 10:59AM

Tax is 1K. just contacted seller

punisher5112 · 07-01-2021 11:04AM

slipperyox wrote: »

Tax is 1K. just contacted seller

Some tax bands is It c have changed so ones that are high will most likely be even higher next renewal.

JCDUB · 07-01-2021 11:15AM

Is that the same engine as the 3/6 MPS?

If so and the tax is the cheaper of the two mentioned that's a great buy for someone with miles to munch who wants to have fun doing it.

bazz26 · 07-01-2021 11:56AM

I don't think you would be buying a CX-7 for mile munching, they are fairly thirsty. I also don't think it's suspiciously cheap, it's about right for what it is - a 13 year old petrol SUV with still a fairly meaty annual tax bill that isn't hugely desirable.

RandomViewer · 07-01-2021 03:59PM

punisher5112 wrote: »

Some tax bands is It c have changed so ones that are high will most likely be even higher next renewal.

Thought that was only new cars

kalkat2002 · 07-01-2021 04:07PM

2007 seat cordoba 1.4 tdi

950 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/22577001

kalkat2002 · 07-01-2021 04:10PM

2006 suzuki swift 1.3 petrol

1190 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/22576258

punisher5112 · 07-01-2021 04:10PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

Thought that was only new cars

Nope it's changed I believe so 2008 on and if one was to import now also will be higher.

colm_mcm · 07-01-2021 04:25PM

Anything existing over band C on emissions has an increase.

frozenfrozen · 07-01-2021 04:27PM

it's extra 10s of euro a year not 100s or anything though

Sam Russell · 07-01-2021 05:00PM

RandomViewer wrote: »

punisher5112 wrote: »

Some tax bands is It c have changed so ones that are high will most likely be even higher next renewal.

Thought that was only new cars

My tax renewal arrived yesterday - up from €570 to €600.

Checked the Gov.ie website and Motortax is quoted at €570. Every official website and not so official sites say €570. Now I do not recall any rise from the budget, so it must be Brexit or Covid.

Anyway, after much searching, it is the carbon tax loaded onto the higher CO2 rates - so €570 goes to €600. [Edit: Band D rate.]

CoBo55 · 07-01-2021 06:14PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

My tax renewal arrived yesterday - up from €570 to €600.

Checked the Gov.ie website and Motortax is quoted at €570. Every official website and not so official sites say €570. Now I do not recall any rise from the budget, so it must be Brexit or Covid.

Anyway, after much searching, it is the carbon tax loaded onto the higher CO2 rates - so €570 goes to €600. [Edit: Band D rate.]

Mine is unchanged at €200. 111-120 bracket, my car is 113.

Andrew33 · 07-01-2021 06:31PM

selectamatic wrote: »

Way too cheap is a bit of an exaggeration, to me it seems more like it's just simply priced to sell.

The only other one on DD is up for 3k dropped from €3500 with a full fresh nct but its been up over 20 days and still hasn't sold.

I accept your point, that other CX7 is the ONLY other one for sale I can find on DD or CZ. Still a not insignificant 33% cheaper though. Like anything of that age and complexity it would be wise to thread carefully.

Andrew33 · 07-01-2021 06:36PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

My tax renewal arrived yesterday - up from €570 to €600.

Checked the Gov.ie website and Motortax is quoted at €570. Every official website and not so official sites say €570. Now I do not recall any rise from the budget, so it must be Brexit or Covid.

Anyway, after much searching, it is the carbon tax loaded onto the higher CO2 rates - so €570 goes to €600. [Edit: Band D rate.]

Yikes, does this mean all my pre 2008 2ltr petrol and diesel yokes are going to cost more to tax or will pre 2008 stay the same?

Truckermal · 07-01-2021 06:45PM

Andrew33 wrote: »

Yikes, does this mean all my pre 2008 2ltr petrol and diesel yokes are going to cost more to tax or will pre 2008 stay the same?

No pre 08 will be the same except you import a pre 08 then that will be now taxed on CO2..

Truckermal · 07-01-2021 06:47PM

frozenfrozen wrote: »

it's extra 10s of euro a year not 100s or anything though

I know that but giving the bastards 600 a week between paye and usc it's annoying..

Andrew33 · 07-01-2021 06:55PM

Truckermal wrote: »

No pre 08 will be the same except you import a pre 08 then that will be now taxed on CO2..

Thanks, I know it’s only a tenner per vehicle but I hate giving it to them.

Markcheese · 07-01-2021 07:21PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

2007 seat cordoba 1.4 tdi

950 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/22577001

That seems good value ..
Although I suppose it is a 13 year car by now .

theoneeyedman · 07-01-2021 08:01PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

2009 Ford focus 1.4 petrol
1950 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/22570216

That's a straight car, or at least it was up until a year or so ago. It's not powerful, but is a decent starter model, is easy insured in particular.

I know the lad that had it until 12 months ago, it was straight when he sold it, had no crash damage and has been looked after well.

Nothing too exciting, nothing too powerful, but that particular one isn't a sh1te box anyway (or wasn't when he sold it).

colm_mcm · 07-01-2021 09:27PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

My tax renewal arrived yesterday - up from €570 to €600.

Checked the Gov.ie website and Motortax is quoted at €570. Every official website and not so official sites say €570. Now I do not recall any rise from the budget, so it must be Brexit or Covid.

Anyway, after much searching, it is the carbon tax loaded onto the higher CO2 rates - so €570 goes to €600. [Edit: Band D rate.]

Motortax.ie has the correct rates.

job seeker · 07-01-2021 10:07PM

theoneeyedman wrote: »

.... but that particular one isn't a sh1te box anyway (or wasn't when he sold it).

I was gonna mention that too! Generally, it may indicate that it was driven hard. Could well be a boy racer of sorts. Given that the exhaust is the only mod on the car.

carzony · 07-01-2021 10:20PM

Did that shape Focus always come with the 1.4 petrol engine? I'd say the majority were the 1.6 diesel. I didn't even know they sold that shape with a 1.4 petrol

colm_mcm · 07-01-2021 10:35PM

Up until mid 2008 it was the default engine for them.
They still had a good few sitting unsold at that stage, and would have done deals on them.

Rather than develop more economical petrols, Ford just stopped selling petrol in anything Focus sized or bigger for a few years.

Rows Grower · 07-01-2021 10:40PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

My tax renewal arrived yesterday - up from €570 to €600.

Checked the Gov.ie website and Motortax is quoted at €570. Every official website and not so official sites say €570. Now I do not recall any rise from the budget, so it must be Brexit or Covid.

Anyway, after much searching, it is the carbon tax loaded onto the higher CO2 rates - so €570 goes to €600. [Edit: Band D rate.]

In all fairness it's about an extra 50 cents a week, sell the car if it's too expensive to keep.

Sam Russell · 08-01-2021 03:23PM

colm_mcm wrote: »

Motortax.ie has the correct rates.

That is where my research took me.

I cannot understand why all the other gov.ie sites have the wrong values. Also SIMI site is wrong.

In fact, the only site that has the right values is motortax.ie which I suppose should not be a surprise that the one collecting it has it correct.

Sam Russell · 08-01-2021 03:26PM

Rows Grower wrote: »

In all fairness it's about an extra 50 cents a week, sell the car if it's too expensive to keep.

I am not complaining about the increase - just it was not flagged in the budget (afair) and the Dept of Transport has the wrong value, as does a search of Gov.ie.

It is gross incompetence.

CoBo55 · 08-01-2021 05:39PM

Sam Russell wrote: »

That is where my research took me.

I cannot understand why all the other gov.ie sites have the wrong values. Also SIMI site is wrong.

In fact, the only site that has the right values is motortax.ie which I suppose should not be a surprise that the one collecting it has it correct.

The rates applicable from 1/1/2021 are here https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/41c9cc-motor-tax-rates/ The government site.

This site https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/travel_and_recreation/motoring_1/motor_tax_and_insurance/motor_tax_rates.html
contains a link to the government site.
I don't see any gross incompetence.

theoneeyedman · 08-01-2021 07:37PM

kalkat2002 wrote: »

2009 Ford focus 1.4 petrol
1950 eur

http://www.adverts.ie/22570216

Just on this, as I did before I'd familiar with the car, up until about a year ago. I see now though, that it was advertised on Facebook and sold over the Xmas by the previous owner, and is now being sold again from Cavan. Sounds like a lad doing a bit of dealing, trying to turn a fast buck.

BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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