Machinery Photo/Discussion Thread II

Suckler · 06-01-2021 10:09PM

RedPeppers wrote: »

Can anyone recommend where I might be able to get a second hand door for a Mf 4255? Thanks

I struggled to get door for a ford Fritzmeier cab for a neighbour a few years ago, tried ebay and got one in the UK, might be something to look in to.

wrangler · 06-01-2021 10:10PM

I put my 2012 hilux through the test yesterday, failed due to the rust on the chassis.
Diesel tank has to be taken down and the chassis plated above it.
I'm very disappointed, I've had three hilux's that didn't rust and they were older than that.
The pick up body on the back is showing a lot of rust too, I'm afraid to lift the liner

FintanMcluskey · 06-01-2021 10:27PM

wrangler wrote: »

I put my 2012 hilux through the test yesterday, failed due to the rust on the chassis.
Diesel tank has to be taken down and the chassis plated above it.
I'm very disappointed, I've had three hilux's that didn't rust and they were older than that.
The pick up body on the back is showing a lot of rust too, I'm afraid to lift the liner

Is it an English import or Irish from new?

ruwithme · 06-01-2021 10:27PM

You should have pushed in a BIG €50 note into one off the dash vents wrangler &told the tester to turn on the heater that cold morning in her.

wrangler · 06-01-2021 10:28PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Is it an English import or Irish from new?

I have it since new

Albert Johnson · 06-01-2021 10:48PM

wrangler wrote: »

I put my 2012 hilux through the test yesterday, failed due to the rust on the chassis.
Diesel tank has to be taken down and the chassis plated above it.
I'm very disappointed, I've had three hilux's that didn't rust and they were older than that.
The pick up body on the back is showing a lot of rust too, I'm afraid to lift the liner

That's a poor outcome for a sub 10 year old vehicle especially from one of the name brands. I don't know would I have much faith in it after plating it tbh, you'd be wondering what the chassis will be like in another year or two given how quickly its rotted so far. My mechanic advised me of similar issues in the late noughties land cruisers although I don't know what the newest body shape is like. Either way it's a poor advertisement for Toyota especially given the prices of both new and secondhand jeeps.

wrangler · 07-01-2021 12:10AM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

That's a poor outcome for a sub 10 year old vehicle especially from one of the name brands. I don't know would I have much faith in it after plating it tbh, you'd be wondering what the chassis will be like in another year or two given how quickly its rotted so far. My mechanic advised me of similar issues in the late noughties land cruisers although I don't know what the newest body shape is like. Either way it's a poor advertisement for Toyota especially given the prices of both new and secondhand jeeps.

Yea, f..k it, only 110000kms on it

Albert Johnson · 07-01-2021 12:27AM

wrangler wrote: »

Yea, f..k it, only 110000kms on it

F..k it indeed, that's a disgust tbh. It wouldn't fill you with confidence if you were in the market for a second hand jeep.

The chassis cracked in a friend's 03 land cruiser before Xmas, I don't know how many miles were on it but he had it 15 years. It wore out 2 triaxle Hudsons drawing sheep and cattle to marts and rented land up the country. They definitely don't make them like that anymore. He went for an Amarok this time so it will be interesting to see how that fairs out. There's still a world of 97 to 02 regs Toyotas locally and they seem to be sticking the times better than the mid 2000's ones.

selectamatic · 07-01-2021 01:28AM

wrangler wrote: »

I put my 2012 hilux through the test yesterday, failed due to the rust on the chassis.
Diesel tank has to be taken down and the chassis plated above it.
I'm very disappointed, I've had three hilux's that didn't rust and they were older than that.
The pick up body on the back is showing a lot of rust too, I'm afraid to lift the liner

Have you full main dealer service history for it?

If you do it'd be worth getting onto Toyota Ireland about it see is there any good will forthcoming. Worth a shot like but I'd not be too hopeful.

Jb1989 · 07-01-2021 09:01AM

Albert Johnson wrote: »

That's a poor outcome for a sub 10 year old vehicle especially from one of the name brands. I don't know would I have much faith in it after plating it tbh, you'd be wondering what the chassis will be like in another year or two given how quickly its rotted so far. My mechanic advised me of similar issues in the late noughties land cruisers although I don't know what the newest body shape is like. Either way it's a poor advertisement for Toyota especially given the prices of both new and secondhand jeeps.

They must be reverting back to the quality of the 80s corollas, super engines, only the body fell apart around them.

Odelay · 07-01-2021 12:54PM

selectamatic wrote: »

Have you full main dealer service history for it?

If you do it'd be worth getting onto Toyota Ireland about it see is there any good will forthcoming. Worth a shot like but I'd not be too hopeful.

Do this. While the car may be out of warranty, there is a case that it is expected to have a serviceable life of more than 10 years. There is some European law on it. An 8 year old jeep having rust issues is pathetic.

davidk1394 · 07-01-2021 02:56PM

Odelay wrote: »

Do this. While the car may be out of warranty, there is a case that it is expected to have a serviceable life of more than 10 years. There is some European law on it. An 8 year old jeep having rust issues is pathetic.

I got a part for my rake that was five years old off the Irish distributor and it didn't cost anything. I got onto them and the manufacturer and kicked up a stink. Well worth a shot.

wrangler · 07-01-2021 03:57PM

Jb1989 wrote: »

They must be reverting back to the quality of the 80s corollas, super engines, only the body fell apart around them.

It looks to be water coming down between the cab and the pick up body, even so it shouldn't have happened. It has to be a problem on other hiluxs' too. It couldn't have been painted right the first day, I've emailed Toyota Ireland any way. They replied with an email advertising assuredusedcars.toyota.ie. Probably di that as soon as they got my email address, I was amused at them sending an ad for secondhand Toyotas, they also sent an email saying it'd be dealt with in rotation

blue5000 · 07-01-2021 04:11PM

wrangler wrote: »

It looks to be water coming down between the cab and the pick up body, even so it shouldn't have happened. It has to be a problem on other hiluxs' too. It couldn't have been painted right the first day, I've emailed Toyota Ireland any way. They replied with an email advertising assuredusedcars.toyota.ie. Probably di that as soon as they got my email address, I was amused at them sending an ad for secondhand Toyotas, they also sent an email saying it'd be dealt with in rotation

Mechanic that looks after mine was saying quality of the newer Toyota jeeps has dropped a lot. I think when they started galvanizing the bodies back in the mid 90s to mid 00s they laid it on good and thick. Then I reckon the accountants figured out how much they'd save if they put it on a lot thinner.

Could be a different steel type in the chassis too. If there's a small % of chromium, silica or nickel in the iron ore used then it would help the strength of the chassis. They might simply have changed the source of the ore.

Let us know how you get on. Might be a fb group for problem Toyotas, I know there was a Nissan one for cracked chassis.

emaherx · 07-01-2021 05:54PM

Similar issues with Nissan pickups over 10 years ago. They payed out on out of warranty repairs and even bought a lot of them back I think.

Odelay · 07-01-2021 07:09PM

emaherx wrote: »

Similar issues with Nissan pickups over 10 years ago. They payed out on out of warranty repairs and even bought a lot of them back I think.

This is true, they did it with jeeps well out of warranty.

selectamatic · 07-01-2021 08:06PM

Toyota have done similar in America on certain Toyota tundras and forerunners that suffered from chassis rust.

They repainted red cars here that suffered with fading and peeling. And also replaced a fair few 2.2d4d engines that went wallop. So they've form in going beyond warranty repairs.

MickeyShtyles · 07-01-2021 08:11PM

wrangler wrote: »

It looks to be water coming down between the cab and the pick up body, even so it shouldn't have happened. It has to be a problem on other hiluxs' too. It couldn't have been painted right the first day, I've emailed Toyota Ireland any way. They replied with an email advertising assuredusedcars.toyota.ie. Probably di that as soon as they got my email address, I was amused at them sending an ad for secondhand Toyotas, they also sent an email saying it'd be dealt with in rotation

I wouldn’t be holding your breath with Toyota Ireland.
I kicked up stink with them over my now three year old Auris regarding serious economy issues and I got passed around like a ragdoll.

wrangler · 07-01-2021 08:20PM

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

I wouldn’t be holding your breath with Toyota Ireland.
I kicked up stink with them over my now three year old Auris regarding serious economy issues and I got passed around like a ragdoll.

I had a run in with them with a new hilux in 2000 and have to say I was treated verrry generously but it was a serious issue.
Ironically I traded it in immediately it was sorted for a l200 and the buyer didn't even notice the issues. It was a jeep that was built for a different country

jd_12345 · 08-01-2021 08:44PM

I see the man farmflix made famous is gone out of business I think..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK5rvXNsHkU
https://bid.midulsterauctions.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/214
Jonny Neal was some craic to watch
Hopefully he'll be back going soon

Reggie. · 08-01-2021 09:00PM

jd_12345 wrote: »

I see the man farmflix made famous is gone out of business I think..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UK5rvXNsHkU
https://bid.midulsterauctions.com/m/view-auctions/catalog/id/214
Jonny Neal was some craic to watch
Hopefully he'll be back going soon

Yeah. Mad to think of him gone. It's a natural course tho

French Toast · 08-01-2021 09:06PM

Crazy amount of gear. Only recently watched the FarmFlix episode on him, some character.

K.G. · 08-01-2021 11:24PM

Reggie. wrote: »

Yeah. Mad to think of him gone. It's a natural course tho

If you go back over the lads that been on grassmen etc a good few have gone out the game.mackelvy s in green fever,luke furze left silage for a while but not sure is he back at it,theres someone else too but the name escapes me.some told me beckit on galway has had his ups and downs.i think contractors are one of irish agriculture s biggest risk factors.people say they cant justify the machinery to do their work whereas you have guys with 1.5 million euro outfits for250 to 300k of work ,its nuts

K.G. · 08-01-2021 11:25PM

French Toast wrote: »

Crazy amount of gear. Only recently watched the FarmFlix episode on him, some character.

And the tractors havent the hours done according to ads

jaymla627 · 08-01-2021 11:31PM

K.G. wrote: »

And the tractors havent the hours done according to ads

All the above machinery bar the older stuff is obviously on hire purchase, how can it be sold at auction by the man in question, remember him saying about the John deeres the time he bought the newer ones that they offered the best finance package which was their in-house finance something doesn’t add up, no viewing allowed of the gear either

K.G. · 08-01-2021 11:43PM

jaymla627 wrote: »

All the above machinery bar the older stuff is obviously on hire purchase, how can it be sold at auction by the man in question, remember him saying about the John deeres the time he bought the newer ones that they offered the best finance package which was their in-house finance something doesn’t add up, no viewing allowed of the gear either

Does it say who the auctioneer is acting for

Reggie. · 09-01-2021 12:55AM

K.G. wrote: »

Does it say who the auctioneer is acting for

Jn contracts

Reggie. · 09-01-2021 12:55AM

K.G. wrote: »

If you go back over the lads that been on grassmen etc a good few have gone out the game.mackelvy s in green fever,luke furze left silage for a while but not sure is he back at it,theres someone else too but the name escapes me.some told me beckit on galway has had his ups and downs.i think contractors are one of irish agriculture s biggest risk factors.people say they cant justify the machinery to do their work whereas you have guys with 1.5 million euro outfits for250 to 300k of work ,its nuts

I could possibly see the contracting game changing in the future

Grueller · 09-01-2021 12:58AM

Reggie. wrote: »

I could possibly see the contracting game changing in the future

In what way?

FintanMcluskey · 09-01-2021 01:04AM

Grueller wrote: »

In what way?

This is my irrelevant opinion but massive investment machinery that’s idle for months surely can’t make sense.

A 280hp+ tractor on a trailed harvester surely makes better sense than a SP. The tractor is useful all year round.

Precision chop silage isn’t as critical with diet feeders!

A local contractor used a trailed harvester behind a 180-90 fiat until 2002 when a SP was purchased.

By 2014 the SP was lifting less area than the trailed was 13 years previously

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