Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I'll tell you, honestly, I would love it if they're forced to teach the sixth years, LOVE IT!

You’ve got your wish - if you paid attention to the news you’d know we’re going to teach them remotely. Stick to the gambling forum mate and leave this matter to people in the know.

LuasSimon wrote: »

One class in a big school, why is it such a big problem .
Selfish teachers destroying the careers and life’s of this years leaving cert students .

Very few schools have a single 6th year class. Most have 3 or more 6th year classes. As such, it's not possible in most schools to do as you say.

LuasSimon wrote: »

Plenty of students want to be in school preparing for their leaving cert but lazy teachers will do every thing to get out of going to work

What a load of nonsense. It's harder to work from home than it would be to go to school. While some teachers will be lazy and take advantage, it won't make a difference, because they are the same teachers who are lazy and take advantage when in the classroom, expecting everyone else to pull their weight.

Responder XY wrote: »

Find the attitude of ASTI and teachers disgraceful. I'm disgusted but unfortunately not surprised.

Teachers and childcare professionals are absolutely essential workers and it's essential our young people get an education. Schools should have stayed open at almost any cost - we know that the risk to young people is minimal so closing schools to prevent spread is complete greed on behalf of older people who will sacrifice the future of our young people.

I don't understand how some people seem to have this idea that its ok to send kids to school because covid has much less impact on kids. Well, even if there is no impact to kids, these kids can carry and spread the disease and cause serious illness and death to others in the community.

The kids will bounce back from some lost time in education. The people who die from covid won't bounce back.

gifted wrote: »

Without a doubt....the worst minister ever ....really is very poor.

Nah, Shane Ross is still the medal holder for that title. He was best in class for photo ops and no good at literally anything else. The second he was voted in, he became minister for incompetence.

Responder XY wrote: »

interesting, please provide references. I have seen speculation, but no evidence that the new strain in the UK might spread quicker in children.

Even if that proves correct that it does spread quicker amongst children (And I repeat, there seems to be no evidence for that), the overwhelming evidence is that it doesn't make anyone any sicker and children rarely get sick from Covid. However they do suffer greatly from a lack of education. On balance it's not sensible to restrict education to protect them from Covid.

Unless of course you are greedy and you would rather harm children than take other steps to limit covid harm. For example, nobody is suggesting closing nursing homes in case the staff there get covid - they recongise that they are essential and they continue on as best they can.

I think its fair to give the benefit of the doubt regarding the new strain. Unless you have something else to offer as an answer to the surge?

They won't close nursing homes because this is where the unwell elderly live. It's an essential medical care environment which can't be done remotely. Education can be remote. It's not as effective, but it will prevent unnecessary risk to health and life.

ScummyMan wrote: »

The problem is, for every good teacher that will go over and above putting in the work to help their students, there are three more that will view this as a long Christmas break.

I have a relative in leaving cert year, and for the first lockdown he received nothing bar the odd bit of coursework set.

I think it is desperately unfair to play with 18 year olds futures like this.

So you are stating that 75% of teachers are failing to do their job. If you can back you that assertion contact the chief inspector Harold Hislop (harold_hislop@education.gov.ie). I'm sure he would be astonished by your findings.

meath4sam wrote: »

If ASTI teachers don’t go to work next week will they be paid?

They will be working remotely

meath4sam wrote: »

How if the kids are in school

Is a school really a school without teachers?

Stateofyou wrote: »

I work remotely. Most people I know work remotely. Should we be getting paid or shall we give up our salary, work, but get the pup. Asking for a bunch of friends and family.

No if you can preform your job from home as instructed by your employer

All I’m asking if the teachers are asked to go to school on Monday and don’t turn up will they be paid simple question not trying to start an argument

Mrsmum wrote: »

I think you are missing the point though. Those people are working remotely with their employers permission. What if some students turn up to school as per what the Government have told them to do.

This is a good question. It’s being asked by some of my colleagues too.

ASTI have just saved lives with that decision this evening - the naysayers and teacher haters need to appreciate that.

Darwin wrote: »

So DES and Foley have thrown in the towel

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1347262756974702595?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1347262756974702595%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2058147221page%3D115

That didn’t take long