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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #1472
    Amirani
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,554 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    That is surely a death sentence

    If they can't be guaranteed an ICU bed post-surgery, then they can't do surgery.

    Their situation does sound like a death sentence alright. That's the problem that people spouting stuff about there "only" being 90 Covids in ICU don't seem to get, our ICUs are running out of beds for all ailments, not just Covid.


  • #1473
    [Deleted User]
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    Drumpot wrote: »
    Did I hear It mentioned something about 5% of positive cases confirmed end up in hospital? I presume this is just an average trend of the gross amount infected (as we never know exactly how many are infected at any given time).

    But does that not mean that even over the last week that equates to over a thousand hospital beds and hundreds and maybe a few thousand over the coming 2 weeks? With 17 day average in hospital are we basically lighting candles to hope our hospitals don’t get overrun?

    Will this equate to basically triage of patients dieing who might of been saved has the services been available? How else might that affect us? Long term mental health issues for medical staff? Burnout?

    My sister works in a hospital up North, I am wondering how this may impact her.
    Haven't the North been running with cases this high for a couple of months now?


  • #1474
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hancock suggesting that vaccine may only provide immunity for up to 6/12 months.:eek:

    Pretty much like the flu vaccine.


  • #1475
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hancock suggesting that vaccine may only provide immunity for up to 6/12 months.:eek:

    Hancock

    Lets see what the science says


  • #1476
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,958 ✭✭✭political analyst


    When illicit parties at Christmas and on New Year's Eve night and the maximum time of incubation of coronavirus before Covid symptoms emerge are taken into account, it stands to reason that the peak of the third wave of the pandemic in this country will be reached by the end of this month, doesn't it? :confused:


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  • #1477
    blowitupref
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭blowitupref


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    6,368 swabs from 28,609 tests

    241 more tests carried out than yesterday and 494 less positive swabs.

    I'd expect another 7 to 8k cases to be confirmed this evening as they continue to work through the backlog.


  • #1478
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    blowitupref wrote: »
    241 more tests carried out than yesterday and 494 less positive swabs.

    I'd expect another 7 to 8k cases to be confirmed this evening as they continue to work through the backlog.

    Ya, I think with today's results, there's about 14-15k swabs there to be reported now so should get the 8k or so today again


  • #1479
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Hancock suggesting that vaccine may only provide immunity for up to 6/12 months.:eek:

    Where's that? If it keeps evolving the way it is I wouldn't be surprised.

    Of course many on here will dismiss what he saying will call him a wanker. Just like they did with the variant. Nobody mentioning that now I see. Hopefully we won't get caught on the hop again.

    What's clear is that the UK are not using this like a vaccine for life. They are trying to confer some protection to as many people as possible, as quickly as possible to reduce burden on the health system.


  • #1480
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Hancock suggesting that vaccine may only provide immunity for up to 6/12 months.:eek:

    His exact quote, he hasn't a clue like most people at the moment, it might become like the flu vaccine, who knows really, all to early to say how long protection lasts.

    "I anticipate that we will probably need to revaccinate because we don’t know the longevity of the protection from these vaccines… It might need to be every six months, it might need to be every year.”


  • #1481
    H8GHOTI
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭H8GHOTI


    The swab data that’s used to make this:
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Are there any of the datasets on the government’s covid hub that have this by county? Not confirmed cases but swabs. Or a dataset with confirmed date & swab date.

    If there’s 6300 yesterday, that number has to be made up of 1500 for Dublin, 1000 for Cork, 500 for Limerick etc.... Have they made that available?


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  • #1482
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,998 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    Amirani wrote: »
    If they can't be guaranteed an ICU bed post-surgery, then they can't do surgery.

    Their situation does sound like a death sentence alright. That's the problem that people spouting stuff about there "only" being 90 Covids in ICU don't seem to get, our ICUs are running out of beds for all ailments, not just Covid.

    Oh 100% agree...the folks who keep going on about covid19 has such a smaller death rate and we are over reacting...the secondary deaths from cancer is going to probably dwarf the covid19 deaths all because Mary & Paddy couldn't just sit on the couch and watch Netflix


  • #1483
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    political analyst wrote: »
    When illicit parties at Christmas and on New Year's Eve night and the maximum time of incubation of coronavirus before Covid symptoms emerge are taken into account, it stands to reason that the peak of the third wave of the pandemic in this country will be reached by the end of this month, doesn't it? :confused:

    That's the theory, but you have to take into account that in some cases it may be those less at-risk socialising during christmas, becoming infected, and then passing it through a household. So it wont be a consistent rise and fall, some from christmas day/new years may require hospitalisation around now, whereas there have been a number of infections seeded, which may come up later, in 1/2/3 infection cycles. It's hard to tell, the only thing we can 'hope' for, is that the current surge is due to a mix of christmas and pre-christmas socialising and we are seeing chains of transmissions come to an end soon.


  • #1484
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    H8GHOTI wrote: »
    The swab data that’s used to make this:
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Are there any of the datasets on the government’s covid hub that have this by county? Not confirmed cases but swabs. Or a dataset with confirmed date & swab date.

    If there’s 6300 yesterday, that number has to be made up of 1500 for Dublin, 1000 for Cork, 500 for Limerick etc.... Have they made that available?

    no only cases broken down by county.


  • #1485
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    political analyst wrote: »
    When illicit parties at Christmas and on New Year's Eve night and the maximum time of incubation of coronavirus before Covid symptoms emerge are taken into account, it stands to reason that the peak of the third wave of the pandemic in this country will be reached by the end of this month, doesn't it? :confused:

    Yes.

    Hopefully.

    The 'new variant' seemed to have an r number above 1 in England even with heavy restrictions so there is worries that we will still see growth with all the restrictions we are putting on but I doubt it.


  • #1486
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    H8GHOTI wrote: »
    The swab data that’s used to make this:
    https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

    Are there any of the datasets on the government’s covid hub that have this by county? Not confirmed cases but swabs. Or a dataset with confirmed date & swab date.

    If there’s 6300 yesterday, that number has to be made up of 1500 for Dublin, 1000 for Cork, 500 for Limerick etc.... Have they made that available?

    Not that I know of, and it seems from the numbers that county data per day isnt as useful during this backlog issue as the numbers are fluctuating wildly, likely better to stick with 14-day incidence per county until backlog is cleared.


  • #1487
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    One day at a time isn't it. Keep doing the right things and turn it around with the least deaths possible. That has to take precedence, while understanding the mental health issues and people who are losing their livelihoods.


  • #1488
    bikeman1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    There has been mention of a delay / pressure on the system by a few posters. I'll describe a close family members experience over the last week.

    (3/1) Symptoms on Sunday
    Called out of ours GP Service 12:00. Appointment text received in the afternoon.

    (4/1) Test in Cloughran 12:00. Very busy centre but well managed supposedly.

    (5/1) Results back at around 13:00. Positive

    (5/1) 17:30 HSE Contact tracing called to go through the result and details of contacts. They only had 1 other close contact plus one who had tested positive at the same time (both went to get tests).

    I was very impressed with the apparent handling of the situation and they didn't feel that it was a long wait or anything. This was when there were huge numbers of people coming forward for testing and referrals and as we saw with swabs positive cases. Hats off to everyone who runs the test system, it appeared to cope despite the massive numbers going through.

    Now if only the Dept. of Health can clear their backlog of case reporting.


  • #1489
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    There has been mention of a delay / pressure on the system by a few posters. I'll describe a close family members experience over the last week.

    (3/1) Symptoms on Sunday
    Called out of ours GP Service 12:00. Appointment text received in the afternoon.

    (4/1) Test in Cloughran 12:00. Very busy centre but well managed supposedly.

    (5/1) Results back at around 13:00. Positive

    (5/1) 17:30 HSE Contact tracing called to go through the result and details of contacts. They only had 1 other close contact plus one who had tested positive at the same time (both went to get tests).

    I was very impressed with the apparent handling of the situation and they didn't feel that it was a long wait or anything. This was when there were huge numbers of people coming forward for testing and referrals and as we saw with swabs positive cases. Hats off to everyone who runs the test system, it appeared to cope despite the massive numbers going through.

    Now if only the Dept. of Health can clear their backlog of case reporting.

    Good to hear! BTW it's the HSE running the testing.


  • #1490
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    There has been mention of a delay / pressure on the system by a few posters. I'll describe a close family members experience over the last week.

    (3/1) Symptoms on Sunday
    Called out of ours GP Service 12:00. Appointment text received in the afternoon.

    (4/1) Test in Cloughran 12:00. Very busy centre but well managed supposedly.

    (5/1) Results back at around 13:00. Positive

    (5/1) 17:30 HSE Contact tracing called to go through the result and details of contacts. They only had 1 other close contact plus one who had tested positive at the same time (both went to get tests).

    I was very impressed with the apparent handling of the situation and they didn't feel that it was a long wait or anything. This was when there were huge numbers of people coming forward for testing and referrals and as we saw with swabs positive cases. Hats off to everyone who runs the test system, it appeared to cope despite the massive numbers going through.

    Now if only the Dept. of Health can clear their backlog of case reporting.

    Sounds quite efficient.

    Hopefully your family members symptoms aren't too bad, best wishes on recovery.


  • #1491
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    China doing that thing they do - all for 100 cases.
    China has placed 11 million people in the northern city of Shijiazhuang under lockdown after more than 100 new Covid cases were confirmed there.

    Residents are banned from leaving the city and schools have also been closed.

    More than 5,000 testing sites have been set up so every resident can be tested.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55576961


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  • #1492
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Hancock suggesting that vaccine may only provide immunity for up to 6/12 months.:eek:

    It’s very difficult to square your claim as to what you are employed as ,when you post rubbish like this.


  • #1493
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,221 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I feel for anyone with family in hospitals and nursing homes, they need to up speed on the vaccines roll out and stop cancelling other serious medical exams and operations, they had 9 months to prepare knowing flu season is in winter and we are short medical staff and ICU beds
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #1494
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Not that I know of, and it seems from the numbers that county data per day isnt as useful during this backlog issue as the numbers are fluctuating wildly, likely better to stick with 14-day incidence per county until backlog is cleared.

    Yeah Dublin very low yesterday relatively. Nothing to celebrate, likely more swabs weren't processed there.


  • #1495
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Elderly couple beside me brought off to hospital with COVID in the ambulance :eek: Couldn't believe it when I heard it , feels like feckin everybody I know nearly is getting COVID lately. For months I nearly questioned if it was all a bit exaggerated, really has hit home these last few weeks, terribly ignorant I know and the exact attitude that is has been so unhelpful worldwide but really changes your perspecitve on it all when people you know personally are affected


  • #1496
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    bikeman1 wrote: »
    There has been mention of a delay / pressure on the system by a few posters. I'll describe a close family members experience over the last week.

    (3/1) Symptoms on Sunday
    Called out of ours GP Service 12:00. Appointment text received in the afternoon.

    (4/1) Test in Cloughran 12:00. Very busy centre but well managed supposedly.

    (5/1) Results back at around 13:00. Positive

    (5/1) 17:30 HSE Contact tracing called to go through the result and details of contacts. They only had 1 other close contact plus one who had tested positive at the same time (both went to get tests).

    I was very impressed with the apparent handling of the situation and they didn't feel that it was a long wait or anything. This was when there were huge numbers of people coming forward for testing and referrals and as we saw with swabs positive cases. Hats off to everyone who runs the test system, it appeared to cope despite the massive numbers going through.

    Now if only the Dept. of Health can clear their backlog of case reporting.

    Similar - work colleague got symptoms monday night, called doc tuesday afternoon, tested Wednesday morning and result this morning - positive


  • #1497
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,686 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    glasso wrote: »
    probably roughly a 10 to 12 day lag average from case confirmation to hospitalisation at a guess?

    Then depends on how long they need to stay in, who ends up in ICU etc (if ICU space at this rate) and for how long there.

    Jesus, the hospital numbers are going to sky rocket so with the current case numbers.


  • #1498
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    glasso wrote: »
    probably roughly a 10 to 12 day lag average from case confirmation to hospitalisation at a guess?

    Then depends on how long they need to stay in, who ends up in ICU etc (if ICU space at this rate) and for how long there.
    Is that fully true for this surge? Weren't some of the these hospitalisation numbers down to hospital outbreaks rather than new admissions?


  • #1499
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    UK cases down approx. 10K today, to 52,618. Deaths up approx. 120, to 1,162.


  • #1500
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Heathcare workers getting vaccinated on the Late Late tomorrow. You'd wonder the value of that tbh

    https://www.joe.ie/movies-tv/line-up-for-first-late-late-show-of-2021-revealed-712789


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  • #1501
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,221 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    Elderly couple beside me brought off to hospital with COVID in the ambulance :eek: Can't believe it , feels like feckin everybody I know nearly is getting COVID lately. For months I nearly questioned if it was all a bit exaggerated, really has hit home these last few weeks, terribly ignorant I know but really changes your perspecitve on it all when people you know personally are affected

    Yes I know a lot more catching it this time around, I do fear it is worse than March and April, more rampant, spreading faster :( I've noticed a lot more ambulances also on the roads
    https://forumofgames.com/




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