BGW and DGW 20/21 Discussion thread

Shedite27 · 05-01-2021 10:33PM

siblers wrote: »

Unless Pep comes out and says he is fit, I wouldn't bother

2 Cup games before the deadline to show something

gormdubhgorm · 05-01-2021 11:07PM

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

I'm going to wait one more day on the free hit option. I will be free hitting but with 40 positive tests who knows what games could be pulled.

I am hoping it is not Brighton gw18 I have three Man City. Given that City had their game called off before, and positive tests, hopefully Man City are now ultra, ultra, cautious.Thereby making it less likely that they could be cause of games being called off gw19 - v Palace and Villa for example. I plan to TC then.

Plus with Roy Hodgson being an elderly gentleman, I would like to think it makes the Palace players more hyper aware of covid19.

If the City v Villa game is called off (for example) that will mean 5 players out for gw19 for me and would definitely make any Chip pointless. Plus the fact none of the Man City games are at the start of that gameweek, means the situation could change fast.

It is a lottery at this stage not much anyone can do contingency planning wise, just play fpl as they would normally play it, and hope for the best.

Pogue eile · 05-01-2021 11:09PM

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

I'm going to wait one more day on the free hit option. I will be free hitting but with 40 positive tests who knows what games could be pulled.

if you are definitely free hitting there is no upside to waiting?

Ace2007 · 06-01-2021 12:17AM

Pogue eile wrote: »

if you are definitely free hitting there is no upside to waiting?

If season get's postponed he may lose the chip - like last season the game just kept running through the GW's.

Jim Gazebo · 06-01-2021 12:21AM

Pogue eile wrote: »

if you are definitely free hitting there is no upside to waiting?

If it turned out that a few of these games get pulled for covid and only 1/2 stay standing then there would be zero sense free hitting. Likewise if the games are pulled. Won't get the chip back, it seems more insane to pull the trigger now, I would be so annoyed at myself for hitting that button with the knowledge we have right now.

Jim Gazebo · 06-01-2021 12:22AM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

I am hoping it is not Brighton gw18 I have three Man City. Given that City had their game called off before, and positive tests, hopefully Man City are now ultra, ultra, cautious.Thereby making it less likely that they could be cause of games being called off gw19 - v Palace and Villa for example. I plan to TC then.

Plus with Roy Hodgson being an elderly gentleman, I would like to think it makes the Palace players more hyper aware of covid19.

If the City v Villa game is called off (for example) that will mean 5 players out for gw19 for me and would definitely make any Chip pointless. Plus the fact none of the Man City games are at the start of that gameweek, means the situation could change fast.

It is a lottery at this stage not much anyone can do contingency planning wise, just play fpl as they would normally play it, and hope for the best.

It is best to wait I have learned so far. Forget value, patience is key.

NoviGlitzko · 06-01-2021 12:43AM

I'm thinking it's best for me to hold onto the FH chip as I've 9 starters, and Dale Stephens who could get a 1 pointer. I already own 2 City defenders and Kane/Son, and I could just bring in De Bruyne for Salah.

Question is, is there any more projected blank/DGW's or is it just a presumption that there will be more? Would settle my mind more if I knew there was.

Ace2007 · 06-01-2021 12:48AM

Would you take a hit to bring De Gea in for GW18? On the basis that Utd have great games for the next while (bar Liverpool) or would you say it's better to play with 10?

siblers · 06-01-2021 01:11AM

Ace2007 wrote: »

Would you take a hit to bring De Gea in for GW18? On the basis that Utd have great games for the next while (bar Liverpool) or would you say it's better to play with 10?

Utd can't seem to keep cleansheets despite their fixtures plus there is always the chance he rotates with Henderson

shmeee · 06-01-2021 01:14AM

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

I'm going to wait one more day on the free hit option. I will be free hitting but with 40 positive tests who knows what games could be pulled.

Why not hold out to near the deadline? Is your budget that tight for the team you want?

You've either FH by now, or waiting until 4pm on the 12th.

Jim Gazebo · 06-01-2021 01:30AM

shmeee wrote: »

Why not hold out to near the deadline? Is your budget that tight for the team you want?

You've either FH by now, or waiting until 4pm on the 12th.

I feel like I'm in the middle of wanting to hit it so much but I have a fear of doing it, I haven't even looked a the team I want yet. I've found the more planning I put into a gameweek the worse I come out. I'm going with my gut whenever I hit that button and that's the team that will go out.

dasa29 · 06-01-2021 02:49AM

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

I feel like I'm in the middle of wanting to hit it so much but I have a fear of doing it, I haven't even looked a the team I want yet. I've found the more planning I put into a gameweek the worse I come out. I'm going with my gut whenever I hit that button and that's the team that will go out.

I know where you are coming from but giving that I only have 7 players at the moment and one free transfer, my plan is to FH Sunday evening around 9 after all the Fa Cup games, not counting the game on Monday(Stockport County V West Hem).

jimmii · 06-01-2021 09:12AM

NoviGlitzko wrote: »

I'm thinking it's best for me to hold onto the FH chip as I've 9 starters, and Dale Stephens who could get a 1 pointer. I already own 2 City defenders and Kane/Son, and I could just bring in De Bruyne for Salah.

Question is, is there any more projected blank/DGW's or is it just a presumption that there will be more? Would settle my mind more if I knew there was.

If I had 9 starters no way I would be freehitting.

With all the games being cancelled there's bound to be a few small ones and the fa Cup should create a decent one at some point like it often does.

Green&Red · 06-01-2021 09:44AM

Theres talk that if city win tonite they and reach the FA cup QF they will have BGW in 29 & 33 and doubles in 24, 26 & 27

Dr. Bre · 06-01-2021 11:09AM

Green&Red wrote: »

Theres talk that if city win tonite they and reach the FA cup QF they will have BGW in 29 & 33 and doubles in 24, 26 & 27

This is why de bruyne a must and one other

Pogue eile · 06-01-2021 12:17PM

Pogue eile wrote: »

if you are definitely free hitting there is no upside to waiting?

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

If it turned out that a few of these games get pulled for covid and only 1/2 stay standing then there would be zero sense free hitting. Likewise if the games are pulled. Won't get the chip back, it seems more insane to pull the trigger now, I would be so annoyed at myself for hitting that button with the knowledge we have right now.

Just to come back to this again, I just checked and my free hit team - I activated it Sunday has already gone up .6m which makes a huge difference especially if players continue to rise at the frequency they are, I guess it is a risk either way.

Rikand · 06-01-2021 01:01PM

Pogue eile wrote: »

Just to come back to this again, I just checked and my free hit team - I activated it Sunday has already gone up .6m which makes a huge difference especially if players continue to rise at the frequency they are, I guess it is a risk either way.

I'm now 0.3 short of the team I was going to Free Hit to.

But that's the risk I took

Ginger n Lemon · 06-01-2021 01:26PM

Rikand wrote: »

I'm now 0.3 short of the team I was going to Free Hit to.

But that's the risk I took

It could be for the best - you never know.

If you cant afford KDB and you go for Sterling, and Sterling scores a hat trick, I mean was it a bad decision to wait with the chip?

COH · 06-01-2021 01:43PM

Yeah I held off on using mine and am now 0.1 short of the team I posted yesterday ... pain

Morzadec · 06-01-2021 01:49PM

Imo the risk of there being major changes to fixtures and the FH becoming redundant or something you don't want to use outweighs the risk of price rises/falls.

I fully plan on using FH but will wait til as late as possible to activate it. There's always other options, like you could go Holding instead of Tierney for example, or Saka to ESR to save 0.9, and most likely it's not going to cost you any points. If it does it's hugely unlikely that it'll cost you more than 5 or so.

The downside to some or all of the fixtures being cancelled seems way bigger.

macraignil · 06-01-2021 02:01PM

I reckon if you are taking the game seriously it makes sense to wait as the gain from having o.1mill or slightly more plus or minus on a player is unlikely to be very significant but loosing the chip if the whole week is cancelled could have a very big impact. The FPL site have posted an article about the free hit this week with the target audience of players of the game using it this week so I'd be surprised if there was something that stopped the game week and they did not do something to re-balance the situation on a season restart like the free wildcard last season.

Just playing for fun so played my free hit a couple of days ago when I saw Tierney was due a rise in price. Re-jigged the team last night when I saw Lacazette was due to rise and had to remove Leno who I think is the best goalkeeper option to allow me bring him in. Also brought in a non playing keeper but on current prices I could just about stretch to bring in the Brighton keeper with no money left over. Like a wildcard I just think its nice to be able to chop and change the team a few times before the deadline.

Currently on:
Darlow
Tierney, Wan-Bissaka, Saiss
Son, Saka, Fernandes, Sterling, KDB
Lacazette, Wilson

Forster, Joelinton, Targett, Mitchell

Pogue eile · 06-01-2021 02:33PM

macraignil wrote: »

I reckon if you are taking the game seriously it makes sense to wait as the gain from having o.1mill or slightly more plus or minus on a player is unlikely to be very significant but loosing the chip if the whole week is cancelled could have a very big impact.

But the price difference is on your entire squad not on each player - the difference could be as much as 2 million which is massive.

I do agree though with the general sentiment that both courses of action are risky, I had a relatively low team value coming into to the week and that was what swayed it for me, couldnt afford to miss anymore rises.

CSF · 06-01-2021 02:42PM

I’m seeing something of a trend among FH drafts to forego the highest point scorers throughout the season for less reliable guys with fixtures against weak teams, almost as a means of justifying using the chip.

I think that’s a bias to at least make sure you’re conscious of.

For example, I’m on Martinez, Dier, Dias, Cancelo, Bruno, KDB, Son, Zaha, Grealish, Kane, Brewster this week, with one free transfer to put a better starter in than Brewster, and I’m not really looking at the FH drafts and feeling like I’m missing much.

Pogue eile · 06-01-2021 02:50PM

CSF wrote: »

I’m seeing something of a trend among FH drafts to forego the highest point scorers throughout the season for less reliable guys with fixtures against weak teams, almost as a means of justifying using the chip.

I think that’s a bias to at least make sure you’re conscious of.

For example, I’m on Martinez, Dier, Dias, Cancelo, Bruno, KDB, Son, Zaha, Grealish, Kane, Brewster this week, with one free transfer to put a better starter in than Brewster, and I’m not really looking at the FH drafts and feeling like I’m missing much.

People using FH are mostly those that were building towards GW19 and are well set up for that week, at first glance I think you only have 6 players with a double and three of them are away to City.

CSF · 06-01-2021 03:15PM

Pogue eile wrote: »

People using FH are mostly those that were building towards GW18 and are well set up for that week, at first glance I think you only have 6 players with a double and three of them are away to City.

I’ve 9 with a double already (Bamford and Dallas on my bench this week), will probably transfer in someone like a United defender this week who will do me for both, and then with a transfer next week, I should have 11 DGWers plus Son and Kane against Sheff United.

In any case, my point wasn’t specifically in relation to this week being a bad week to Free Hit, rather people going without the good players that they’d have had reliable all season (who have games this week) out of a feeling of wanting to be making more changes to justify using the chip.

With that said, I think the Man City and Man United getting DGWs and SGWs will have bailed out some people’s plans for people who have 6 or 7 players this week and are low on those teams by taking a few hits because a) they make you stronger for the DGW next week in terms of the quality of DGW players, and more importantly they’re teams you want to have players from in GW20.

What my team will look like in GW20 has been at the front of my mind throughout the gameweek planning and getting to keep the FH makes me feel much more comfortable about the Covid uncertainty ahead also

Shedite27 · 06-01-2021 03:24PM

CSF wrote: »

I’m seeing something of a trend among FH drafts to forego the highest point scorers throughout the season for less reliable guys with fixtures against weak teams, almost as a means of justifying using the chip.

I think that’s a bias to at least make sure you’re conscious of.

For example, I’m on Martinez, Dier, Dias, Cancelo, Bruno, KDB, Son, Zaha, Grealish, Kane, Brewster this week, with one free transfer to put a better starter in than Brewster, and I’m not really looking at the FH drafts and feeling like I’m missing much.

I think your team looks like that because you made your mind up weeks back not to FH Most FH'ers are in the opposite camp. I've only 4 players so am committed to FH.

I think the FH will always be a good time to take a few punts, knowing they're gone from your team the next day, it's like a transfer the week before your wildcard. It's a different mindset. I'll have 6 of your 11 in my team, probably a few punts in the rest.

ThunbergsAreGo · 06-01-2021 03:38PM

CSF wrote: »

I’ve 9 with a double already (Bamford and Dallas on my bench this week), will probably transfer in someone like a United defender this week who will do me for both, and then with a transfer next week, I should have 11 DGWers plus Son and Kane against Sheff United.

In any case, my point wasn’t specifically in relation to this week being a bad week to Free Hit, rather people going without the good players that they’d have had reliable all season (who have games this week) out of a feeling of wanting to be making more changes to justify using the chip.

With that said, I think the Man City and Man United getting DGWs and SGWs will have bailed out some people’s plans for people who have 6 or 7 players this week and are low on those teams by taking a few hits because a) they make you stronger for the DGW next week in terms of the quality of DGW players, and more importantly they’re teams you want to have players from in GW20.

What my team will look like in GW20 has been at the front of my mind throughout the gameweek planning and getting to keep the FH makes me feel much more comfortable about the Covid uncertainty ahead also

Pretty much the exact same mindset here - the United/City games being moved has made a large difference to my plan.

Moved Taylor to Dias last week

Salah to KDB this

United/City look great fixture wise for the next while, and would rather take a hit this week than next (and get that extra 2 points for a player blanking).

Targett, Dias, KDB, Son, Grealish, Fernandes, DCL, Davis (might replace) should see me through

893bet · 06-01-2021 03:39PM

For a minus 4 I can get 7 players playing and still have 10 doubles the week after.

I am never crazy about blank weeks. Risk is spread across too few teams.

Edging towards holding free hit.

Dr. Bre · 06-01-2021 03:53PM

I currently have my whole team playing twice so will use bench boost for theDGW. In the past I have saved bench boost towards the end of the season but hasn’t worked out well

Iused2likebusts · 06-01-2021 03:58PM

My plan was FH 18 and possibly BB in 19 and had been building towards that. The Utd game going into 18 and moreso the City game going to 19 means I have changed plans and am now wildcarding in 18 and will BB in 19. I have no city players and want to go all in on them they also have great fixtures after 19 and will have some more doubles before 26.
On my wildcard ill have 10 with a fixture in 18 , 13 with a double in 19 and 1 transfer if needed and my team well set up with the fixtures that are coming up after 19. I'll have the FH to use later in the season for the other blank or if I want to attack the doubles.

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