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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #9092
    GeorgeBailey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭GeorgeBailey


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Numbers on Grafton Street feels somewhere between March/April lockdown and October November.

    Although that may be the weather its a good sign.

    I live near a main route into Dublin city and would say similar. Not as quiet as March/April but much quieter than October/November.


  • #9093
    Jimi H
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 375 ✭✭Jimi H


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Numbers on Grafton Street feels somewhere between March/April lockdown and October November.

    Although that may be the weather its a good sign.

    Definitely a lot less traffic this morning. I travel to work every morning on a usually very busy motorway. Not at March levels due to construction but way down on November.


  • #9094
    the corpo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭the corpo


    Dundrum/Balllinteer *much* quieter today, I guess people were out getting the big shops in yesterday to see them through.
    Went to do mine this morning, and popped into M+S, fresh food shelves were all barren. I guess Brexit related though...


  • #9095
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Numbers on Grafton Street feels somewhere between March/April lockdown and October November.

    Although that may be the weather its a good sign.

    Guess with non-essential shops closed wouldn't be too many places open there ether.


  • #9096
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Most people with a high BMI are nothing like him :D

    I've a high bmi but I don't consider myself obese. I'm nowhere on the level of the rock either.

    I do have a few pounds to shed but not a massive amount.

    BMI 32
    Body fat percentage is around 15

    One of my friends does body fat %+BMI for a formula.

    Personally I see BMI as, if your BMI is high you should ask the question. It doesn't mean the answer is yes.


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  • #9097
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Possibly but I don't see what could be done differently at this juncture and government's default policy remains easing in and out of restrictions until people are vaccinated.

    But maybe there are scientists and medics who can see things that could be done differently.


  • #9098
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭jams100


    Are private hospitals still operating as normal?
    Last time they were also shut down but never used, hopefully this time that lesson has been learned, they should only be shut down if and when public hospitals are at capacity


  • #9099
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    UK is going to implement stronger border controls. Effectively admitting they got it wrong.
    We'll probably need another wave to make sure. Locking down with no inward travel restriction is dumb.
    He get's called on the "enforcement" bull**** to boot. Not a piers fan by any stretch but he is right.

    https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1346381745218859009?s=20


  • #9100
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Guess with non-essential shops closed wouldn't be too many places open there ether.

    Seems to be much less shops open doing click and collect at the moment too. During October it felt like most shops had click and collect open.


  • #9101
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Numbers on Grafton Street feels somewhere between March/April lockdown and October November.

    Although that may be the weather its a good sign.

    So like July?


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  • #9102
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,658 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    If they are going closing construction it’s an awful pity they didn’t do it before sites reopened this week. Sites coming back to life now for a few days and being mothballed again.


  • #9103
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    you are going to hit 3000 covid posts by the end of the week, i think thats what they are getting at

    Well there's more here with more posts than me. So maybe have a go at them?


  • #9104
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    marno21 wrote: »
    If they are going closing construction it’s an awful pity they didn’t do it before sites reopened this week. Sites coming back to life now for a few days and being mothballed again.

    I saw one group of builders next to a site huddled in a tight circle having their lunch.

    Stuff like that will get construction closed. Behaviour outside the sites by builders rather than the site itself.


  • #9105
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    jams100 wrote: »
    Are private hospitals still operating as normal?
    Last time they were also shut down but never used, hopefully this time that lesson has been learned, they should only be shut down if and when public hospitals are at capacity

    and what, kick all their patients out?


  • #9106
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Seems to be much less shops open doing click and collect at the moment too. During October it felt like most shops had click and collect open.

    Oh yeah, forgot about click and collect. Yeah could be issues getting staff in with so many cases or think it's not worth the hassle or risk possible.


  • #9107
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    titan18 wrote: »
    So like July?

    Wasn't really around town in July so I couldn't really judge.


  • #9108
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    lawred2 wrote: »
    in what sense?

    It's possible they will continue to allow support bubbles for single adult/single adult carer households. They are continuing in the UK under last nights new restrictions.


  • #9109
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    Why didn't NPHET recommend a full shutdown at the start of December, why were they ok with retail opening and Hospitality or home visits being allowed. If NPHET had advised a full lockdown the same as march at the start of December, government would have compromised with much harsher restrictions than we ended up with. They know how it works, advise the worst and compromise due to economy concerns. Why didn't NPHET know we would have so many cases when posters on here knew or maybe just maybe everyone just ****ed up and we were all caught on the hop.


  • #9110
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    You think all non essential shopping should be closed just because schools will be?

    Click and collect shopping involves a few minutes of interaction at most.

    Kids in school involves multiple households in close proximity for hours on end - the very thing we're repeatedly told is most risky when it comes to this virus.

    Tbf, if we're closing things that are more essential like schools and cancelling hospital appointments, I think we're past the point that we should be banning click and collect stuff too. To me, we should be attempting to reduce people's interactions as much as possible and when there are non essential things open like jewellers (as an example), we're not doing that. Get it under control again sooner and we can reopen stuff that are considered less risky then.


  • #9111
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Wasn't really around town in July so I couldn't really judge.

    Was just more of a joke about July being between march/April and October/November.


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  • #9112
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    titan18 wrote: »
    So like July?
    Which was like a quiet Sunday anyway!


  • #9113
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why didn't NPHET recommend a full shutdown at the start of December, why were they ok with retail opening and Hospitality or home visits being allowed. If NPHET had advised a full lockdown the same as march at the start of December, government would have compromised with much harsher restrictions than we ended up with. They know how it works, advise the worst and compromise due to economy concerns. Why didn't NPHET know we would have so many cases when posters on here knew or maybe just maybe everyone just ****ed up and we were all caught on the hop.

    I don't think anyone can know that for definite but based on past experiences I think odds are they wouldn't tbh.


  • #9114
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why didn't NPHET recommend a full shutdown at the start of December, why were they ok with retail opening and Hospitality or home visits being allowed. If NPHET had advised a full lockdown the same as march at the start of December, government would have compromised with much harsher restrictions than we ended up with. They know how it works, advise the worst and compromise due to economy concerns. Why didn't NPHET know we would have so many cases when posters on here knew or maybe just maybe everyone just ****ed up and we were all caught on the hop.

    Didn't they advise that hospitality shouldn't reopen to allow for the household visits and government overruled them


  • #9115
    political analyst
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,975 ✭✭✭political analyst


    It's a bizarre irony that people who opposed water charges believe that lockdowns are justified.


  • #9116
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    titan18 wrote: »
    Tbf, if we're closing things that are more essential like schools and cancelling hospital appointments, I think we're past the point that we should be banning click and collect stuff too. To me, we should be attempting to reduce people's interactions as much as possible and when there are non essential things open like jewellers (as an example), we're not doing that. Get it under control again sooner and we can reopen stuff that are considered less risky then.

    The problem is when we close things we are one of the slowest in Europe at reopening anything, its peoples job, livelihoods, mortgages, family that are severely affected.


  • #9117
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why didn't NPHET recommend a full shutdown at the start of December, why were they ok with retail opening and Hospitality or home visits being allowed. If NPHET had advised a full lockdown the same as march at the start of December, government would have compromised with much harsher restrictions than we ended up with. They know how it works, advise the worst and compromise due to economy concerns. Why didn't NPHET know we would have so many cases when posters on here knew or maybe just maybe everyone just ****ed up and we were all caught on the hop.
    Again, 15-30 contacts per person for some explains it all. Add in the high number of cases in the most socially active group of 19-24 and it is not all that surprising but nobody expected these levels of numbers.


  • #9118
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,139 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    titan18 wrote: »
    Didn't they advise that hospitality shouldn't reopen to allow for the household visits and government overruled them

    It was one or the other, it was crazy having either looking at numbers now. They ****ed up like everyone else.


  • #9119
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    political analyst wrote: »
    It's a bizarre irony that people who opposed water charges believe that lockdowns are justified.

    Nice nonsensical vague blanket statement.

    Back it up.


  • #9120
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    political analyst wrote: »
    It's a bizarre irony that people who opposed water charges believe that lockdowns are justified.

    Who's talking about water charges?


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  • #9121
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Russman


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Why didn't NPHET recommend a full shutdown at the start of December, why were they ok with retail opening and Hospitality or home visits being allowed. If NPHET had advised a full lockdown the same as march at the start of December, government would have compromised with much harsher restrictions than we ended up with. They know how it works, advise the worst and compromise due to economy concerns. Why didn't NPHET know we would have so many cases when posters on here knew or maybe just maybe everyone just ****ed up and we were all caught on the hop.

    Honestly I'd say NPHET, for all that they are concerned purely about public health, knew they'd be wasting their breath advising retail staying closed in the run up to Christmas and also leaving themselves open to the charge of ".....are these guys on planet earth at all ? close shops at Christmas, wtf ...."

    Also your last sentence too, I don't think anyone thought there would be as much socialising as there actually was, rightly or wrongly. Lots of people don't count the "I only dropped in to see aunty Mary for 10 minutes and dropped off a pudding to Jim on the way back..." as socialising. Partially understandably in fairness.


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