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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #9002
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Eivor wrote: »
    I don't think there's a man or woman in the country who can't say the same at the minute. I's too easy to eat like crap when there's nothing else to do!

    That’s how I was 8 years ago. Overweight and breathless after some moderate activity. Changed diet took up walking followed by running. I think I’m in great shape now have taken part in multiple marathons and made a lot of friends. Still enjoy my few beers and odd treat. Takes some effort and determination but a healthy living habit forms very quickly.


  • #9003
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    Estimating a 1% cfr from covid, the 6 or 7 deaths a day we are seeing now relates to days in mid December when we were seeing 600 - 700 cases a day.
    With cases now running at 5000 - 6000 a day, unfortunately we could be looking at 50 to 60 notified deaths a day in a couple weeks time.


  • #9004
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    This guy is predicting a very protracted lockdown.
    Hopefully vaccines can start making a dent soon.

    https://twitter.com/johnmcclean_ie/status/1346433293953200129?s=20


  • #9005
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    Yeah but the muscular person at 22 will likely understand BMI and its limits.

    While BMI has it's issues, it's a very easy calculation for those that do need a lower BMI, and can be the push people need to be more active. Thinking you're 'a bit heavy' can quickly change to 'oh ****, i'm in the obese range' can be a pretty good motivator when all you need is height & weight.

    I don't envisage a body builder throwing away all their work after a quick calculation

    Pointing out the flaws in BMI seems to be mandatory on the internet, not sure why tbh.

    I'm not pointing out any flaws in BMI, just that not everyone in the country needs to lose weight. Tbh, I think that most of the criticism of BMI has it backwards. BMI bands are very broad, too broad to be accurate for the majority of people. I'm just over 5ft tall and have a healthy range of nearly 2 and a half stone of a difference. The reality is, in the lowest of my healthy range, I'd be underweight. In the higher end of the healthy range, I'm clearly still overweight.


  • #9006
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Estimating a 1% cfr from covid, the 6 or 7 deaths a day we are seeing now relates to days in mid December when we were seeing 600 - 700 cases a day.
    With cases now running at 5000 - 6000 a day, unfortunately we could be looking at 50 to 60 notified deaths a day in a couple weeks time.

    We can only hope this current case level isn't sustained for too long.


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  • #9007
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,483 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    We can only hope this current case level isn't sustained for too long.

    And that point is very important.

    If you look at the cases in UK, they are being sustained. I don't know if that is because of regional variation in spread, population behaviour, the new variant...

    But we need to see a rapid decline in numbers once the Christmas cases are done.


  • #9008
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I've stopped alcohol since all this started. I want to be better at fighting of any infections. Along with taking loads of vitamins

    - Vit D
    - Magnesium for better absorption of vit d
    - Vit C
    - Zinc
    - Quercetin (acts like a key to open your cells so that zinc can get in and do it's job)
    - Bromelain can help with blood clots (though not enough evidence)

    I think all these are better than fueling myself with alcohol

    As others have said before me, I think you would be better off taking a step back from social media / Boards. That will be more beneficial to you than any vitamins.


  • #9009
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,989 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I've stopped alcohol since all this started. I want to be better at fighting of any infections. Along with taking loads of vitamins

    - Vit D
    - Magnesium for better absorption of vit d
    - Vit C
    - Zinc
    - Quercetin (acts like a key to open your cells so that zinc can get in and do it's job)
    - Bromelain can help with blood clots (though not enough evidence)

    I think all these are better than fueling myself with alcohol


    Live a little. Open a nice brandy this evening


  • #9010
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    As others have said before me, I think you would be better off taking a step back from social media / Boards. That will be more beneficial to you than any vitamins.

    Yes doc, Very strange taking vitamins indeed. I should be out in pubs, what's wrong with me at all. Obviously better to go with what the majority thinks to keep ye guys on boards happy.

    #open the pubs


  • #9011
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I've stopped alcohol since all this started. I want to be better at fighting of any infections. Along with taking loads of vitamins

    - Vit D
    - Magnesium for better absorption of vit d
    - Vit C
    - Zinc
    - Quercetin (acts like a key to open your cells so that zinc can get in and do it's job)
    - Bromelain can help with blood clots (though not enough evidence)

    I think all these are better than fueling myself with alcohol

    The anxiety probably negates any benefit


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  • #9012
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    NPHET shakeup incoming

    https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1346439328948506627?s=19


  • #9013
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Yes doc, Very strange taking vitamins indeed. I should be out in pubs, what's wrong with me at all. Obviously better to go with what the majority thinks to keep ye guys on boards happy.

    #open the pubs

    Your mental health is equally as important as your physical health. You were offered some reasonable advice, not sure why you think a petulant response is required.


  • #9014
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,385 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    "Shake-up", f'kin Indo with their hysterical headline clickbait.


  • #9015
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Yes doc, Very strange taking vitamins indeed. I should be out in pubs, what's wrong with me at all. Obviously better to go with what the majority thinks to keep ye guys on boards happy.

    #open the pubs

    A little petulant when someone is openly concerned about your mental health and only offering advice(As others have also offered). A break does us all good. A few days over Christmas was very refreshing for myself, likewise in the summer, need to step back at times for our own sake.


  • #9016
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    NPHET shakeup incoming

    https://twitter.com/Philip_Ryan/status/1346439328948506627?s=19

    If thats not firing NPHET under the bus I don't know what is.

    Pure politicking optics.


  • #9017
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Your mental health is equally as important as your physical health. You were offered some reasonable advice, not sure why you think a petulant response is required.

    I wasn't asking for advice.


  • #9018
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    We can only hope this current case level isn't sustained for too long.

    I was looking at some countries with similar demographics (all European, similar sized population) and similar outbreaks to us today to try to get a sense of what might be coming. Not pretty.

    Croatia - pop: 4,092,187 peak: 4620
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/croatia/

    Bulgaria - pop: 6,921,398 peak: 4828
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/bulgaria/

    Slovakia - pop: 5,461,002 peak: 6315
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/slovakia/


  • #9019
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,385 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    If thats not firing NPHET under the bus I don't know what is.

    Pure politicking optics.

    By adding more scientists and experts? F me, I'd happily have my team fired under several buses if that's what people understand as its definition.


  • #9020
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    This guy is predicting a very protracted lockdown.
    Hopefully vaccines can start making a dent soon.

    https://twitter.com/johnmcclean_ie/status/1346433293953200129?s=20
    The unknown here is that he's predicting that the halving rate is the same as Oct/Nov. When the data from April suggests that a sharper spike results in a faster decline. But in terms of expectations, we should look at the Oct/Nov decline rate as the worst-case scenario.


  • #9021
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    If thats not firing NPHET under the bus I don't know what is.

    Pure politicking optics.

    Exactly. How about they "refresh" the cabinet instead.
    They're the ones making a balls of things.


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  • #9022
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,194 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Not sure what other restrictions could happen:

    https://twitter.com/sandra_hurley/status/1346434602227871746


  • #9023
    BobbyMalone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭BobbyMalone


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Yes doc, Very strange taking vitamins indeed. I should be out in pubs, what's wrong with me at all. Obviously better to go with what the majority thinks to keep ye guys on boards happy.

    #open the pubs


    In fairness, that poster mentioned nothing about pubs (which are closed, right?) It's good advice to take some time away from social media, not just for you but for us all.


  • #9024
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,120 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I've stopped alcohol since all this started. I want to be better at fighting of any infections. Along with taking loads of vitamins

    - Vit D
    - Magnesium for better absorption of vit d
    - Vit C
    - Zinc
    - Quercetin (acts like a key to open your cells so that zinc can get in and do it's job)
    - Bromelain can help with blood clots (though not enough evidence)

    I think all these are better than fueling myself with alcohol

    I think as we get older we start listening to our bodies more, maybe without realising it. Nothing wrong with taking supplements to boast our immune system and also good to know what triggers mood or health ailments. Cutting alcohol and processed foods can have a huge benefit, but people need to make that choice themselves, some health food people can be very preachy. I like a pint as much as the next person but its also good to detox and get a clearer head.


  • #9025
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    The latest gp covid community tracker is out:

    https://twitter.com/gpbuddy/status/1346436969753153541

    There is always something of a spike on Monday (following the weekend), but it does not look like we have peaked yet.


  • #9026
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Ah here. When I saw vitamin D earlier in the thread I presumed people were talking about drinking a bit more milk.

    Supplements can be of varying quality and aren't really needed in the majority of cases.

    I don't see a need to tell everyone to go out and tell people to take vitamin D supplements. Recommending dietary choices might not be a bad idea.

    I support anyone getting a better bmi for general health (it needed) but it has little to do with Covid. I know obesity is a risk factor but if you get covid in the next little while you will likely not have had enough time to lose said weight.


  • #9027
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Your mental health is equally as important as your physical health. You were offered some reasonable advice, not sure why you think a petulant response is required.

    I find they are both closely linked.

    As the late Paidi O'Se used say 'if the body is right the mind won't be far behind'.


  • #9028
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Hurrache wrote: »
    By adding more scientists and experts? F me, I'd happily have my team fired under several buses if that's what people understand as its definition.

    Sure it's a benefit to NPHET. I don't dispute that.

    However, the public will perceive it differently and that's what counts in the ballot booth from a Goverment perspective.


  • #9029
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,410 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Yes doc, Very strange taking vitamins indeed. I should be out in pubs, what's wrong with me at all. Obviously better to go with what the majority thinks to keep ye guys on boards happy.

    #open the pubs

    That's not even remotely what I said...

    Stress is bad for your health. Reduce stress = healthier and happier. Much more beneficial than taking vitamins.


  • #9030
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    I wasn't asking for advice.

    Oh that’s fine, I’m not advising you just stating a fact . I could care less what you do.


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  • #9031
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Kallie Future Marinade wrote: »
    If thats not firing NPHET under the bus I don't know what is.

    Pure politicking optics.

    They're also moving Watt, a guy who was saying we should reopen stuff sooner, to the Department of Health. Clear to see where the governments priorities lie with that


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