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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #8702
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,628 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    The council are shutting some beach car parks in Louth.

    In fairness some of the measures are utterly hysterical.


  • #8703
    flanna01
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 963 ✭✭✭flanna01


    thelad95 wrote: »
    Q1 2021 will be worse than 2020 ever was but people have lost site amongst the horrific numbers caused by people taking the ultimate piss for a month, that we now have something genuinely tangible to cling too in the form of vaccines. Realistically, by the end of the month, I believe there will be three vaccines rolling out in Ireland, only one of which has to be stored at a stupid temperature.

    I wouldn't be surprised if, by April, vaccines were given out in GP surgeries.

    Chin up everyone, a bleak few weeks ahead for sure but with the schools closed (and they will be) and Christmas frivolities out the window, by February things will have stabilised and by march I believe we'll be back to a far smoother landscape. And think of how many will be vaccinated by then??

    When I look back at this period, the one time I'll remember as me being truly truly angry over it all will be the Christmas just gone. When a pathetically incompetent government ignored public health advice to catastrophic effect, pushing us not even back to square one but way beyond that to a stage where nearly one in one thousand people are being diagnosed every day with the disease. All so people could play charades at aunty Bessy's house and go for a piss up with their friends home from Dubai for Christmas (who obviously ignored quarantine guidelines).

    Why blame the Government...........Huh?????

    Did every Man, Woman and Dog not know the correct virus protocol since last March / April...??

    Do you honestly believe the Government caused this third wave too be so brutal...??? C'mon man!!!

    Stop blaming other people! The reason for this sh*tstorm can be found by looking in the mirror... We all knew what was expected of us over Christmas, a good share of us complied. more didn't.

    You really, really think that the Government relaying the medical advice word for word would have made one jot of a difference to the gang that were having a Christmas ball anyway.....???

    Check out videos on line.. An element of society will never adhere to Government guidelines no matter how stringent they are...

    This mess is absolutely nothing to do with the Government.. It's down to us Im afraid, stop passing the book, accept the facts for what they are.


  • #8704
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,120 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Jinonatron wrote: »
    I’m starting to lose hope that 2021 will be any better than 2020.

    It will be better, its only the 5th of January and second proper day back. It will be a slow start to the year but by the end of March with brighter days and when the hour changes we'll be in a much better place than we are now.

    One concern I would have though is the fixation with the vaccine. I would like to see more effort in improving testing systems and times. Having an efficient and effective test that could be administered in real time would be great for mass testing in work, travel or mass gathering situations. Especially if covid is with us for a long time to come.


  • #8705
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    Graham wrote: »
    Yet interestingly

    confirmed COVID-19 cases notified in Ireland from 20/12/2020 up to midnight on 02/01/202

    Median age (years) 35
    Mean age (years) 38

    Not really surprising when the average age of the population is 37


  • #8706
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Eivor wrote: »
    Not really surprising when the average age of the population is 37

    Makes sense I guess, there are so many cases now that the average age of a case will be.. well, average of the whole population.


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  • #8707
    TexasTornado
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 285 ✭✭TexasTornado


    SAXA wrote: »
    We know now why politicians should not make a medical decision... I felt in Dec numbers were too high to open up. It was not just blaming Irish but same happened in Spain opening pubs/restaurants trying to get tourist back. US and Canada had surge re Thanksgiving.. both countries celebrated on different dates... Nphet will get some things wrong but most things right. Who leaked level 5... in October..... .. Not Tony

    The politicians didn't make a medical decision, they where put under pressure from lobby groups and folded like a cheap Aldi tent in a storm. Make no mistake they bare as much responsibility for this as the selfish people who visited families at Xmas.


  • #8708
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    thelad95 wrote: »
    When a pathetically incompetent government ignored public health advice to catastrophic effect, pushing us not even back to square one but way beyond that to a stage where nearly one in one thousand people are being diagnosed every day with the disease.

    Sorry but that’s rubbish. 1 in a thousand people are not being “diagnosed” every day. They’re testing positive for having the virus within them. Far fewer people actually have the disease COVID-19 than test positive for presence of the virus.


  • #8709
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,757 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    It's a serious issue. It's a question of manners and compliance. None of us wants to be wearing a mask. If I'm in a shop and any of you present near me not wearing a mask, you'll be wearing one shortly after. At both ends that you talk through. There's no room now for sh1tetalk and exceptions.

    Tough guy alert


  • #8710
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eivor wrote: »
    Sorry but that’s rubbish. 1 in a thousand people are not being “diagnosed” every day. They’re testing positive for having the virus within them. Far fewer people actually have the disease COVID-19 than test positive for presence of the virus.

    Casedemic yadda yadda yadda from covid not with covid nonsense nonsense nonsense. Tiresome at this stage
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  • #8711
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,062 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    TexasTornado wrote:
    The politicians didn't make a medical decision, they where put under pressure from lobby groups and folded like a cheap Aldi tent in a storm. Make no mistake they bare as much responsibility for this as the selfish people who visited families at Xmas.

    But look on the bright side, at least the economy is doing better due to things!


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  • #8712
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Coming home from work this morning and the wireless on in the car.radio one.nothing on it but covid doom and gloom.they wheel on doctor death himself then if things weren’t bad enough.
    I’m going listening to cds in the car anymore.I’ve enough of the constant covid downers.boll1x to all that.
    An endless depressing vacuum chiselling into your soul.


  • #8713
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    thelad95 wrote: »
    When I look back at this period, the one time I'll remember as me being truly truly angry over it all will be the Christmas just gone. When a pathetically incompetent government ignored public health advice to catastrophic effect, pushing us not even back to square one but way beyond that to a stage where nearly one in one thousand people are being diagnosed every day with the disease. All so people could play charades at aunty Bessy's house and go for a piss up with their friends home from Dubai for Christmas (who obviously ignored quarantine guidelines).

    The government didn’t make us do anything. Even with the restrictions relaxed they advised people not to mix, to stay at home, and to act responsibly.


  • #8714
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Casedemic yadda yadda yadda from covid not with covid nonsense nonsense nonsense. Tiresome at this stage
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    I didn’t say anything about a casedemic they’re your words. The fact of the matter is, a positive test result is not a diagnosis of COVID-19.


  • #8715
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,062 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Doctors room ghost wrote:
    Coming home from work this morning and the wireless on in the car.radio one.nothing on it but covid doom and gloom.they wheel on doctor death himself then if things weren’t bad enough. I’m going listening to cds in the car anymore.I’ve enough of the constant covid downers.boll1x to all that. An endless depressing vacuum chiselling into your soul.

    Are you okay there, is all this reality getting to you?


  • #8716
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,757 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    TexasTornado wrote: »
    Yeah same here. I just think people have pinned a lot on the vaccines but the general public will be lucky to be vaccinated by the end of the summer tbh.. Its going to be a very bad year again tbh.

    November for the general public based on the rollout plan

    Painful


  • #8717
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,120 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Coming home from work this morning and the wireless on in the car.radio one.nothing on it but covid doom and gloom.they wheel on doctor death himself then if things weren’t bad enough.
    I’m going listening to cds in the car anymore.I’ve enough of the constant covid downers.boll1x to all that.
    An endless depressing vacuum chiselling into your soul.

    One sure thing to come out of this is that it proves the Irish media love misery.


  • #8718
    Ohmeha
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭Ohmeha


    I see the Bertie Ahern sponsored doomongers brigade from 2007 property bubble era have now mutated into 2021 covid era on this forum in spite of the health service on the verge of being overwhelmed due to politicians taking their pandemic advice from publicans and not scientists


  • #8719
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    prunudo wrote: »
    One sure thing to come out of this is that it proves the Irish media love misery.

    As do many Irish people.


  • #8720
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,062 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    prunudo wrote:
    One sure thing to come out of this is that it proves the Irish media love misery.

    What are you lads talking about? The biggest story of the century, what else are the media gonna cover?


  • #8721
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Eivor wrote: »
    I didn’t say anything about a casedemic they’re your words. The fact of the matter is, a positive test result is not a diagnosis of COVID-19.

    Yes it is
    Clinical criteria

    A patient with acute respiratory infection (sudden onset of at least one of the following; cough, fever1, shortness of breath)
    OR

    Sudden onset of anosmia2, ageusia3 and dysgeusia4
    OR

    A patient with severe acute respiratory infection (fever and at least one sign/symptom of respiratory disease (e.g. cough, fever, shortness of breath)) AND requiring hospitalisation (SARI) AND with no other aetiology that fully explains the clinical presentation.

    Clinical judgement should be applied in application of these criteria to determine who requires testing.

    Epidemiological criteria
    At least one of the following two epidemiological links:

    close contact5 with a confirmed case COVID-19 case in the last 14 days prior to onset of symptoms
    having been a resident or staff member, in the 14 days prior to onset of symptoms, in a residential institution for vulnerable people, where ongoing COVID-19 transmission has been confirmed
    Diagnostic imaging criteria
    Radiological evidence showing lesions compatible with COVID-19

    Laboratory criteria
    Detection of SARS-CoV-2 nucleic acid in a clinical specimen

    Case classification
    Possible:
    Any person meeting the clinical criteria

    Probable case
    Any person meeting the clinical criteria with an epidemiological link
    OR
    Any person meeting the diagnostic imaging criteria

    Confirmed case
    Any person meeting the laboratory criteria


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  • #8722
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Yes it is

    Yes that’s a confirmed case, not a diagnosis of an illness.


  • #8723
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,120 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What are you lads talking about? The biggest story of the century, what else are the media gonna cover?

    Not saying they shouldn't cover it, they constantly try to out do themselves with the fear, misery and doom. Rte's new year show was a good example, trying to be positive for 2021 but more emphasis on how bad 2020 was.
    I never realised how as a nation how we dwell on the bad things and past so much. Its not good for the mind. I'm not downplaying the virus, just a bit of positivity would be great.


  • #8724
    Doctors room ghost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    What are you lads talking about? The biggest story of the century, what else are the media gonna cover?





    They’re almost a year now spouting the same waffle and going around in circles.one Mickey Mouse lockdown following another and the misery merchants thriving in the drama of it all.


  • #8725
    FlubberJones
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 911 ✭✭✭FlubberJones


    Doctors room ghost wrote: »
    Coming home from work this morning and the wireless on in the car.radio one.nothing on it but covid doom and gloom.they wheel on doctor death himself then if things weren’t bad enough.
    I’m going listening to cds in the car anymore.I’ve enough of the constant covid downers.boll1x to all that.
    An endless depressing vacuum chiselling into your soul.

    Yep. feel the same way and this thread here, there are so many that seem to be relishing reminding others that things are really bad these days.
    I'm beyond caring these days and it is what it is, I do what I have to do and if there are millions in the hospitals and sick then so be it...


  • #8726
    ben.schlomo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,636 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Ohmeha wrote: »
    I see the Bertie Ahern sponsored doomongers brigade from 2007 property bubble era have now mutated into 2021 covid era on this forum in spite of the health service on the verge of being overwhelmed due to politicians taking their pandemic advice from publicans and not scientists

    Jesus, have we a record for the longest sentence ever created!


  • #8727
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    RTÉ at their crap again. Now it’s all about the school exams not going ahead. There is no reason why the State exams cannot go ahead in June even where we are now. We know Lockdown will work and we know we have effective vaccinations.


  • #8728
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Eivor wrote: »
    Yes that’s a confirmed case, not a diagnosis of an illness.

    So... having the illness.. doesn’t mean you have the illness?


    We’re through the looking glass people


  • #8729
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    RTÉ at their crap again. Now it’s all about the school exams not going ahead. There is no reason why the State exams cannot go ahead in June even where we are now. We know Lockdown will work and we know we have effective vaccinations.

    The UK last night acknowledged they’re looking at alternatives.

    We will need to do the same


  • #8730
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    So... having the illness.. doesn’t mean you have the illness?


    We’re through the looking glass people

    Having a positive test result does not mean you have the disease COVID-19. It’s a bit like having HIV but not aids


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  • #8731
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Eivor wrote: »
    Having a positive test result does not mean you have the disease COVID-19. It’s a bit like having HIV but not aids

    No. No it’s not.
    Not at all intact


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