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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7892
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Pablo Escobar wrote: »
    I make it c.16,000 before today's announcement.

    Ya, including todays swabs, it's about that.


  • #7893
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Temperatures are extremely low now and the last 3 weeks or so. Its playing a big role in my opinion. The virus has never been in this country with optimal conditions to spread until now

    Yeah, it means people are staying indoors and not opening windows.


  • #7894
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Essential food shops,

    medical

    utilities

    everybody else stay the fcuk at home

    So close the factories producing medical devices, close food packing plants , tell the truck drivers who transport products to stay at home. These are just some examples .I don’t think you have thought your suggestions out too well tbh


  • #7895
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Can you state what’s not essential in your view?

    Medical
    food
    public transport

    close everything else and put in mandatory WFH


  • #7896
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    tigger123 wrote: »
    Where are you seeing that they're cancelling the vaccine?

    I should have said, 2nd Jab.


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    https://twitter.com/breakingmkts/status/1346101846281170947?s=20


    Seems bizarre when the Drugs Companies advised against doing this.


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  • #7897
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    That's absolute tosh, they are postponing 2nd jab to give more people the first jab sooner as the 2nd jab only adds 10-30% more efficacy

    Yet the Drug manufacturers advise against doing this.


  • #7898
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,150 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Any word on whether there's a NPHET briefing this evening as usual?


  • #7899
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So close the factories producing medical devices, close food packing plants , tell the truck drivers who transport products to stay at home. These are just some examples .I don’t think you have thought your suggestions out too well tbh

    Tbf, there's a lot open that aren't essential tbh. Is click and collect in Next essential like (just an example, nothing against Next)?


  • #7900
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Something is clearly wrong with the vaccine, countries all over Europe cancelling the 2nd jab and entering new lockdowns.

    I have to wonder if the new strain COVID is immune to the vaccine.


    This is fvcking boll0x they are canceling the 2nd jab to get more people the first one quicker. stop spreading bullsh1t conspiracy garbage


  • #7901
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So close the factories producing medical devices, close food packing plants , tell the truck drivers who transport products to stay at home. These are just some examples .I don’t think you have thought your suggestions out too well tbh

    surely they tie in with food and medical?


    If you are not associated with those industries, and are essential in them continuing then you should not be out of your house


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  • #7902
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Lantern Jaw wrote: »
    Because the big boys, higher chain civil servants than the goverment have plenty of peas in the pod. Wouldnt like to lose a few quid.

    Perhaps Better if you have real allegations of corruption to bring to the attention of the Gardai.


  • #7903
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    FlubberJones wrote: »
    I have a huge construction site just behind my building, delighted to see them there working, outside in the fresh air not camped together and using distancing from what I can see... makes no sense to add to the panic and close it down

    Maybe you could start using their jacks a few times every day and take a spin to and from home in the van with a few of them?


  • #7904
    AutoTuning
    Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭AutoTuning


    What happened is it moved exponentially and we are *still* failing to understand what that kind of growth pattern looks like.

    This is bacteria, not a virus, but the growth pattern is exponential and it’s a good illustration. Just imagine each bacterium is a human with COVID-19.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIpcCyuypzg


    It goes from a few cases to absolutely rampant in very rapid steps once the reproductive number is high and that’s controlled by social interaction frequency and complexity in the case of COVID.

    Lots of biological growth looks like that. It’s slow at first then it ramps up faster and faster and faster and before you know where you are you’re overwhelmed be it with Covid-19 cases or mushrooms in your garden.


  • #7905
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    VinLieger wrote: »
    This is fvcking boll0x they are canceling the 2nd jab to get more people the first one quicker. stop spreading bullsh1t conspiracy garbage

    https://twitter.com/globalhlthtwit/status/1345760724757475331?s=20


  • #7906
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    If vaccines dont stop people getting Covid ie They get milder form that doesnt require going to hospital etc

    At what point then will we stop counting the numbers of cases daily etc


  • #7907
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Temperatures are extremely low now and the last 3 weeks or so. Its playing a big role in my opinion. The virus has never been in this country with optimal conditions to spread until now

    Do you think it's the actual temperatures or that people are inside with windows closed?


  • #7908
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    I can't help but look at this and thing we're in a much worse state than ever before.
    We're fast approaching the positivity rate record we set on March 30th of 31%. But that was set on a day that we did only 1,397 tests.

    I do agree with Seamus that we're flying blind to an extent, but it is starting to look more and more obvious to me that we're in uncharted territory.

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  • #7909
    cmac2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,706 ✭✭✭cmac2009


    School closure here is inevitable I'd assume. Scotland just announced and Boris will follow suit later tonight.


  • #7910
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,666 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I should have said, 2nd Jab.


    qIXnRdA.jpeg

    https://twitter.com/breakingmkts/status/1346101846281170947?s=20


    Seems bizarre when the Drugs Companies advised against doing this.

    It doesn't mean the vaccine doesn't work, more so that there is a school of thought out there that it's better off get twice as many people vaccinated with one dose to help build herd immunity in the short term.

    Personally it seems bizarre to me considering the vaccine producers are warning against it and that it seems to drop the effectiveness of the vaccine to 80%, maybe even less. It's a recipe for disaster, especially if it allows the disease to adapt to the vaccine requiring an entire new dosage later in the year. That is a real possibility which people haven't tuned into. The shortsightedness of Government's may result in the 1st generation of the vaccine becoming redundant, setting us back months.


  • #7911
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Medical
    food
    public transport

    close everything else and put in mandatory WFH

    How does a petrol pump attendant work form home?


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  • #7912
    Lemonzero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26 ✭Lemonzero


    No point in blaming each other,Nephet,the neighbours,the government and who ever else for the current situation!! It is what it is and is caused by a vicious virus that literally knows no better.

    I think in terms of the current spread, I totally agree that it relates to the weather.I read somewhere that the virus can last up to a week in cold weather on surfaces but only a half hour in hot weather. We are more susceptible and immune system lower in winter too.


  • #7913
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I get you are angry Tony, but we are not the worst on the planet. A cursory glance tells us that

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    Raind, you should know better than that. That's a 7 day average you're looking at, and we've barely been able to get our cases out the door for most of if not all those 7 days.


  • #7914
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    How does a petrol pump attendant work form home?

    ties in with transport surely

    The vast majority of us that aren't working form home can


  • #7915
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Hospitalisations grow pretty quickly. It's typically 4-5 days from infection to symptoms, another 2-3 days to hospitalisation and 5-7 days to ICU. There can be a big sting in the tail though as late developers of symptoms linger in the hospital system well past the peak. But hospital numbers generally begin to drop 4-5 days after case numbers.

    We can try to use historical figures to guess how many hospitalisations we may have. However, one of the things we do know about April is that we were way underestimating our cases. We may not even be at the April peak yet. We just don't know.


  • #7916
    VinLieger
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,945 ✭✭✭✭VinLieger


    Deleted User wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/globalhlthtwit/status/1345760724757475331?s=20



    There is no concrete evidence to support that, the pharma companies have to cover themselves legally as that's the limit that their testing allowed.


    So I say again stop spreading conspiracy bullsh1t


  • #7917
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    How does a petrol pump attendant work form home?

    Your showing your age...I last saw a petrol pump attendant 20 years ago!


  • #7918
    Rx713B
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 219 ✭✭Rx713B


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Very worrisome positivity rating.

    It is outrageous that contruction workers went to work today and many others with such a rate in the community.

    Are they idiots?

    Everybody should be at home unless you are a doctor, nurse etc etc.

    Not this phony essential worker BS

    Time to get real

    Once they have click and collect in the level 5 it allows for SO many businesses to open under the radar - where i work we are not level 5 but are in work for click and collect. You would be amazed how many companies are open and fully operational today that are not in level 5


  • #7919
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    VinLieger wrote: »
    There is no concrete evidence to support that, the pharma companies have to cover themselves legally as that's the limit that their testing allowed.


    So I say again stop spreading conspiracy bullsh1t


    Anthony Costello
    @globalhlthtwit
    Doctor, Speaker, Author The Social Edge. Ex-Director, WHO. Professor, UCL. Co-chair Lancet Climate Countdown. On Independent SAGE. Tweets/RT≠endorsement

    Are you more qualified?


  • #7920
    Benimar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,790 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    How does a petrol pump attendant work form home?

    Last time I saw a petrol pump attendant I was paying in Punts!


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  • #7921
    Golfman64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 314 ✭✭Golfman64


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    How does a petrol pump attendant work form home?

    some more I can think of:
    Hosting/Data Centre support staff for the physical infrastructure
    Maintenance crews for sports grounds (golf courses, sports pitches etc.)
    Airlines crews and airport staff
    Logistics company employees

    to name a few.....


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