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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7622
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Don't you mean "Restaurants/pubs where social distancing and mask wearing was standard"..... ?

    I went through some amount of masks
    trying to eat and drink with them still on...


  • #7623
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 864 ✭✭✭jams100


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    We had the lowest infection rate and had a grip on it and they blew it by opening retail before Christmas .This encouraged crowds and mixing and then decided to blow it even more by allowing all those people have dinner all together huddled over a table

    Did any country NOT open retail? The suggestion not to open retail is just ridiculous, the stuff around it fair enough but I dont see how people are comparing retail to restaurants.

    If retail was so bad then some supermarkets would've had to close during the first wave surely?


  • #7624
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    Josepha Madigan doing her best Chemical Ali impression with regards schools opening


  • #7625
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    jams100 wrote: »
    Did any country NOT open retail? The suggestion not to open retail is just ridiculous, the stuff around it fair enough but I dont see how people are comparing retail to restaurants.

    If retail was so bad then some supermarkets would've had to close during the first wave surely?

    People are using retail to downplay the impact the opening of pubs and restaurants had. Lots of people citing examples of people pushing past them in a penneys and comparing it to 2 hours beside someone in a restaurant


  • #7626
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Don't you mean "Restaurants/pubs where social distancing and mask wearing was standard"..... ?

    I went out twice to a restaurant during December. We wore our masks until we were seated and the waiter brought us drinks. We put on the mask to go the ladies. And then we put the mask back on as we were leaving.

    I'd say we had the masks on for about 10% of the time we were in the restaurant.


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  • #7627
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    I went through some amount of masks
    trying to eat and drink with them still on...

    You know full well that masks were required only when moving around the establishment, and that distancing, perspex screens and sanitizing of tables and contact points was done, along with booking of tables, reduced dining times and numbers of people...


  • #7628
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,098 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    Josepha Madigan doing her best Chemical Ali impression with regards schools opening

    Explain please!


  • #7629
    Supercell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,643 ✭✭✭✭Supercell


    Hospital numbers up to 744 this morning, won't be long reaching and exceeding the April peak at this rate :(
    https://www.loughlinstown.ie/

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  • #7630
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    JDD wrote: »
    I went out twice to a restaurant during December. We wore our masks until we were seated and the waiter brought us drinks. We put on the mask to go the ladies. And then we put the mask back on as we were leaving.
    I'd say we had the masks on for about 10% of the time we were in the restaurant.

    Yup, mask wearing as standard except when eating/drinking.


  • #7631
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    You know full well that masks were required only when moving around the establishment, and that distancing, perspex screens and sanitizing of tables and contact points was done, along with booking of tables, reduced dining times and numbers of people...

    You said mask wearing was standard... that is not true


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  • #7632
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Supercell wrote: »
    Hospital numbers up to 744 this morning, won't be long reaching and exceeding the April peak at this rate :(

    The growth rate is unbelievable. Scary few weeks ahead


  • #7633
    Rocko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 211 ✭✭Rocko


    We are in the worst of the Covid pandemic but the Gaa are above the restrictions.

    Gaa Updated that until January 15th, Senior inter-county players may train on an individual basis only .

    Who do the Cork Footballers think they are breaking Official Gaa Covid Rules.

    https://twitter.com/teachtynanteach/status/1345489556443779073?s=21

    https://twitter.com/_TonyLawlor/status/1345770335631794176?s=08

    https://twitter.com/teachtynanteach/status/1345462620011204608

    If this is not highlighted you can be sure they'll have collective training again next weekend.


  • #7634
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Sofa King Great wrote: »
    You said mask wearing was standard... that is not true

    Well you wouldn't get into a bar/restaurant without one or be allowed to move around without one, so it certainly wasn't non-standard to attend an establishment sans Mask?


  • #7635
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,041 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Russman wrote: »
    I really don't think a pent up need for socialising is actually a real thing tbh, other than offering a justification for those who went bananas.
    There's a study published here in Nature magazine that suggests it actually is a thing.
    If I'm used to meeting someone every saturday and we can't do it for a few weeks, I don't feel the need to meet them 3 times when things open up.
    To be fair, many people haven't met them in months - not just three weeks. Is there many situations where people kept meeting the same people over and over? It seems it's largely a lot of people unfortunately passing it on to a lot of people over Christmas dinners and the like.


  • #7636
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Russman


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    You know full well that masks were required only when moving around the establishment, and that distancing, perspex screens and sanitizing of tables and contact points was done, along with booking of tables, reduced dining times and numbers of people...

    What percentage of establishments do you realistically think implemented that ? Would it have been as high as 75% ?

    Nearly every second post in the Pubs thread was someone claiming to have been somewhere where the rules were ignored. I know paper never refused ink and in fairness that thread is a bit off the wall anyway.


  • #7637
    embraer170
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭embraer170


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Well you wouldn't get into a bar/restaurant without one or be allowed to move around without one, so it certainly wasn't non-standard to attend an establishment sans Mask?

    I haven't been to a restaurant for several months but what I see at my office canteen: people come in wearing a mask, which comes off as soon as they sit down (and it stays off for the meal).


  • #7638
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Yup, mask wearing as standard except when eating/drinking.

    Which is what you do for the vast majority of time when you are in a restaurant. Talk, laugh, and eat all at the same time.

    My best friend went to another gastropub in South Dublin where the barstaff would bring you upstairs to the their "Speakeasy cocktail bar" if you asked for an after dinner drink. You had to brought by a staff member because the entrance to the speakeasy was separate and had a door combination. All the blinds were drawn, there wasn't two metres distancing and none of the staff wore masks. There was a table to her left - albeit in a closed off area - seating 10. I suppose if the guards came in to check if anyone had stayed longer than their alloted time or was just there drinking, they wouldn't check upstairs.

    Now, this is a very well known gastropub and the "speakeasy" is on their website, so they don't hide the fact that they have one. But it certainly felt clandestine the night she was there.


  • #7639
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    Well you wouldn't get into a bar/restaurant without one or be allowed to move around without one, so it certainly wasn't non-standard to attend an establishment sans Mask?

    What is the main activity in a restaurant? Is it moving around or eating and drinking? As soon as people got to the table they could take off masks and only needed to pit them on when going to the toilet or leaving. At a most conservative estimate that would have people without masks 85% of the time


  • #7640
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    *If* that is the Cork team on Youghal beach they should be kicked out of the 2021 championship immediately to send the right zero tolerance message to County and Club teams.

    Also Taoiseachs is on the Cork panel. That's all we need, another Dominic Cummings esque moment of calamity.

    Zero Tolerance.


  • #7641
    SeaFields
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    If that is indeed the Cork football team, Michael Martin's son is likely there.


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  • #7642
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Rocko wrote: »
    We are in the worst of the Covid pandemic but the Gaa are above the restrictions.

    Gaa Updated that until January 15th, Senior inter-county players may train on an individual basis only .

    Who do the Cork Footballers think they are breaking Official Gaa Covid Rules.

    https://twitter.com/_TonyLawlor/status/1345770335631794176?s=08

    If this is not highlighted you can be sure they'll have collective training again next weekend.

    Looks like they are being trained up to man road blocks and deliver parsnips. GAA does what it wants. They are elite members of the community and have proven an efficient vector. braindead.


  • #7643
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    A girl i work with who had Covid two months ago has just had a second Positive result.
    Been told it could be a false positive or a re infection so has to isolate.


  • #7644
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    A girl i work with who had Covid two months ago has just had a second Positive result.
    Been told it could be a false positive or a re infection so has to isolate.

    Does she have symptoms to get a test?


  • #7645
    tom1ie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,014 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Why is this the government’s fault?
    Anyone with a bit of cop on knew to limit their interactions with family and stick to people they live with.
    Zoom call everyone else.
    Why do people always want to blame the government, they don’t control every facet of your life so they?
    Personal responsibility is what is needed.


  • #7646
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Does she have symptoms to get a test?

    She had a sore throat and just a feeling of being unwell.


  • #7647
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,333 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    Russman wrote: »
    What percentage of establishments do you realistically think implemented that ? Would it have been as high as 75% ?
    Nearly every second post in the Pubs thread was someone claiming to have been somewhere where the rules were ignored. I know paper never refused ink and in fairness that thread is a bit off the wall anyway.

    Your guess is as good as mine...

    However I really do wonder if some of these stories about how certain establishments "A friend of a friend" attended and no masks or social distancing was observed, actually have some sort of vendetta against certain food/drink businesses? Or are stirring the s h one t?

    Any establishment I attended before the Xmas holidays(Dublin city) were in absolute full compliance with the rules.


  • #7648
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    are these people actually in studio or dialling in?

    Still confused that at the pressers they have all the journos there and sign language people etc., rather than doing something remotely or issuing statements at a time when they are saying everyone should act like they are infected.
    GooglePlus wrote: »
    Well anyone at the top table is out and about anyway plus they adhere to strict measures in the DoH building. They did it throughout the year and there wasn't much issues. A remote presser would be awful.


    Nah, don't agree. Paul Reid is out and about on radio shows today in person (including Philip Boucher Hayes this morning) where he's telling everyone to stay the fúck at home and act like they are infected, and that the pandemic is 'out of control', but he can't just dial into a radio show instead of appearing in person and presumably coming into contact with at least a few people?

    As for the pressers, sure, remote pressers might be 'awful' - but there is either a pandemic out of control where the risk is extremely high or there is not. And there's no justifiable reason for bringing these journos and other staff together in a room every day during this rate of transmission.

    I'm on the modest side of worry in these things, but if people are going to get the message, they need to see the message too. But all these 'important' people out and about doesn't send that imo!


  • #7649
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    She had a sore throat and just a feeling of being unwell.

    Crap situation with re-infections.


  • #7650
    NetChat101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭NetChat101


    Tenzor07 wrote: »
    The worst mistake "they" ever committed was to allow people to have dinner together at home, why wasn't this made illegal? We must stop the spread!

    I take it the poster meant people going out to dinner with friends over Christmas.! Obviously not having dinner at home with own family.


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  • #7651
    Vinnie222
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Vinnie222


    Rocco Tart Cheek wrote: »
    Why? Guidance allows for it no?

    No, not until the 15th


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