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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7562
    Str8outtaWuhan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 968 ✭✭✭Str8outtaWuhan


    If they move to online learning on the 11th wtf were they doing extending the holidays, surely they could move all schools to online learning wednesday 6th ??


  • #7563
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Benimar wrote: »
    I’m 3rd Level. Member of TUI. We don’t have a mid term this year as we are trying to get the Academic Calendar back on track.

    Do you know how much the union (or its members) complained about that? They answer is zero. No complaints whatsoever. So take your union bashing BS somewhere else.

    I'd expect more resistance from the ASTI than the TUI


  • #7564
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    CUH and GUH seeing big enough jumps yesterday

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1346037374443286529?s=20
    Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »
    If they move to online learning on the 11th wtf were they doing extending the holidays, surely they could move all schools to online learning wednesday 6th ??

    Think this might be down to a rapidly deteriorating situation that's changing by the hour.


  • #7565
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Was it just said on radio interview that positivity rate of yesterday's tests hit 30%??!

    Yes, national average, some testing centres up to 50%


  • #7566
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The issue is not the schools, it's what's in the community that would end up in schools.

    yeah the out of control community transmission is an effect of policy decisions made in December


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  • #7567
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    lawred2 wrote: »
    good luck getting teacher's unions onboard with that

    Sure, what else would they be doing. Not like they'd have holidays actually planned for it.


  • #7568
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭duffman13


    ZX7R wrote: »
    No point posting on Twitter about positive rate ,without the numbers of referrals.
    With out her number of referrals it doesn't show any true stats.

    This 100%

    Also if they now are only referring people who are symptomatic and not all close contacts, positivity rates are clearly going to increase drastically.


  • #7569
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    What Username Guidelines wrote: »
    CUH and GUH seeing big enough jumps yesterday

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1346037374443286529?s=20



    Think this might be down to a rapidly deteriorating situation that's changing by the hour.

    Have heard from someone who works in GUH that every ward except Maternity has at least 1 case


  • #7570
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Was it just said on radio interview that positivity rate of yesterday's tests hit 30%??!

    Wouldn't that be logical

    I expect it to be 60% to 70% if they are to be only testing people with Symptoms like they said they would..


  • #7571
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    lawred2 wrote: »
    yeah the out of control community transmission is an effect of policy decisions made in December
    The policy changes were fine and a good call IMO, it's the subsequent behaviour that caused these numbers.


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  • #7572
    Mimon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Mimon


    pc7 wrote: »
    Not in all cases, I couldn’t get into the park within our 5km yesterday with smallies as it was so full. No parking and the footpaths wedged. So drove 7km to a beach I go to that had 2 other people on it. I was safer ignoring the 5km restrictions than all the people wedged in one spot.

    Exactly I go 8km for a walk and usually see one or two people and better than my local walk which is jammed due to being close to an urban area.

    Agree with obeying restrictions but in this case common sense trumps blindly following the 5km rule.


  • #7573
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The policy changes were fine and a good call IMO, it's the subsequent behaviour that caused these numbers.

    I genuinely don't know how you can separate the two.


  • #7574
    Treseemme.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 124 ✭✭Treseemme.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Have heard from someone who works in GUH that every ward except Maternity has at least 1 case

    Must be spreading like wildfire within the hospitals


  • #7575
    MD1990
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,740 ✭✭✭✭MD1990


    will they just close the schools.

    Many teachers & students just wont go in.


  • #7576
    Sofa King Great
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    A 30% positivity and average 20k tests would mean there were c. 6k positive swabs yesterday- so that means an 11k backlog?


  • #7577
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,052 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Coolfresian wrote: »
    Was it just said on radio interview that positivity rate of yesterday's tests hit 30%??!

    Only really a large worry if test numbers are still high. If we're hitting 30% and still testing 20-25k a day, thata not good. If test numbers were 10k or less, it ain't as bad tbf


  • #7578
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Covid-19 vaccine: Who has been vaccinated in Ireland?

    Some 4,000 people have had their first vaccine to protect against Covid-19 in the Republic over the last week.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-vaccine-who-has-been-vaccinated-in-ireland-1058958.html

    Our initial allocation was 10,000 doses in the first delivery

    So are we 6000 people behind already in the first week?


  • #7579
    mohawk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭mohawk


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    You have answered your own question. The key to this is people taking responsibility. If anyone wants to blunder about their business until they are tested positive, then the battle is certainly lost.

    The current advice is - act as though you already have it. Test and trace will never counteract mass indifference to the disease.

    Test and Trace was never fit for purpose. What use was it to contact trace for 48 hours. They were never going to get ahead of clusters with that approach.

    Like many on this thread I have friends and family from all over Ireland and I have genuinely lost track of amount of stories about people either waiting to go for Covid test or have received their positive result going about their lives as normal. From being seen going into shops, gyms, work etc. Everyone gives out about those people but no one calls them out for being selfish d***s.
    If someone break the 5km to go for a walk I honestly don’t care especially if they are trying to find a quieter place to exercise. The ones who refuse to isolate really piss me off.


  • #7580
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I genuinely don't know how you can separate the two.
    Policy is government, behaviour people. We knew that January would bring restrictions but nowhere near this many cases. Too many, it seems, set out to have a normal Christmas season.


  • #7581
    eastie17
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭eastie17


    Irish Steve wrote: »
    You missed something, and at this stage, it's beyond annoying me.

    Have a look at the counties with high numbers of cases that are not border related?

    Dublin, Cork and Mayo. Now tell me which counties won GAA competitions a couple of weeks back? Strange that (NOT!)

    Sorry, but at this stage, GAA competions should be shut down until this pandemic is under control, and not allowed to restart any time soon, there's been too many examples of people that cannot control themselves after their team win something. If there's no match to celebrate, there's no excuse for a house party.
    Cork won nathin


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  • #7582
    JDD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,580 ✭✭✭JDD


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    You have answered your own question. The key to this is people taking responsibility. If anyone wants to blunder about their business until they are tested positive, then the battle is certainly lost.

    The current advice is - act as though you already have it. Test and trace will never counteract mass indifference to the disease.

    Well, it may be pessimistic but I think it's fairly close to the truth. If you have kids, you have most certainly suffered with a cold so far this winter. They haven't gone away. It's all well and good to say "Oh, if I even SUSPECTED that I had the virus, I would take my children out of school and isolate the whole household for two weeks" but the reality of that is different to the theory. So if you wake up one morning with a runny nose and a bit of a cough it'd be easy to convince yourself "oh it's just a cold". If testing was available you might think "well, maybe I'll get a test to make sure, it's the right thing to do". If the test came back positive you'd have no choice but to isolate the whole household - you can't ignore the big fat positive. But it'd be easy to ignore mild symptoms in the absence of a test.

    And I'm not saying everyone would do that. But I'm cynical enough to think that a lot of people would.

    If that is the case, then there's is literally no point in testing, track and tracing some community infections and not others. A complete waste of resources. Put those resources to the vaccination test centres and make sure we have all over 65s vaccinated in the shortest time possible.


  • #7583
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    is_that_so wrote: »
    The policy changes were fine and a good call IMO, it's the subsequent behaviour that caused these numbers.

    The behaviour was absolutely predictable. The government took a gamble under lobbying pressure and lost badly. Their message about how people needed to react was far lighter than NPHET was saying - often in direct conflict eg, NPHET saying don't think about what you can do, think about what you should.

    That fell on deaf ears because the gov were just saying that christmas would be 'different' and many people decided upon their own version of difference - scale back a little bit, keep the conscience clear and carry on.


  • #7584
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Covid-19 vaccine: Who has been vaccinated in Ireland?

    Some 4,000 people have had their first vaccine to protect against Covid-19 in the Republic over the last week.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-vaccine-who-has-been-vaccinated-in-ireland-1058958.html

    Our initial allocation was 10,000 doses in the first delivery

    So are we 6000 people behind already in the first week?

    Widely reported half being held back for the first few weeks while supply is guaranteed, then all go out once supply lines guaranteed.

    30k arrived in the other day, they go into more hospitals and nursing homes from today.

    Quite prudent to hold half back while having supply lines confirmed. Imagine the uproar if people couldn't get the 2nd dose due to going all out and not having supply confirmed.


  • #7585
    Fakediamond
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,055 ✭✭✭Fakediamond


    Away With The Fairies wrote: »
    Does anyone know if I can line up ready for any unused vaccines that might not get used? It's a pity to waste them.

    That’s what they’re doing in Israel, you can walk into a vaccination centre and be given a dose earmarked for someone who didn’t turn up. Very efficient and economical use of resources. Unlikely to happen here, we just don’t have the ability to think outside the box.


  • #7586
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,748 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Policy is government, behaviour people. We knew that January would bring restrictions but nowhere near this many cases. Too many, it seems, set out to have a normal Christmas season.

    behavior is led by policy


  • #7587
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,247 ✭✭✭duffman13


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Covid-19 vaccine: Who has been vaccinated in Ireland?

    Some 4,000 people have had their first vaccine to protect against Covid-19 in the Republic over the last week.

    https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/covid-19-vaccine-who-has-been-vaccinated-in-ireland-1058958.html

    Our initial allocation was 10,000 doses in the first delivery

    So are we 6000 people behind already in the first week?

    Lack of clarity on supply is apparently slowing things down a bit, they want to make sure the second dose is available to everyone who has got the initial dose. Its a bit mad but also a little sensible in a way. I dont think they have got a 2nd delivery yet and they havent got a clear roll out plan outside care homes which they wont vaccinate if there is an active case


  • #7588
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    eastie17 wrote: »
    Cork won nathin

    Exactly

    That post is just an excuse to bash the GAA

    Anecdotally but I've heard of several clusters in Cork linked to people who travelled home for Christmas from the UK, didn't know they were positive and who met up with friends


  • #7589
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    MD1990 wrote: »
    will they just close the schools.

    Many teachers & students just wont go in.

    It’s inevitable at this stage


  • #7590
    Away With The Fairies
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Have heard from someone who works in GUH that every ward except Maternity has at least 1 case

    How many people in a ward? If there's 1 case in a ward, can't that spread?


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  • #7591
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Widely reported half being held back for the first few weeks while supply is guaranteed, then all go out once supply lines guaranteed.

    30k arrived in the other day, they go into more hospitals and nursing homes from today.

    Quite prudent to hold half back while having supply lines confirmed. Imagine the uproar if people couldn't get the 2nd dose due to going all out and not having supply confirmed.

    Hmmm that makes some sense but that still leaves bout 1000 people short that could have been vaccinated at this stage


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