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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #7082
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.


  • #7083
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    beaz2018 wrote: »
    The military. Only option.
    hotmail.com wrote: »
    We don't have a military.

    giphy.gif


  • #7084
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    bluefivetwo23 wrote: »
    Restrictions need to change. I work for a well known coffee company that is currently doing take away only. All of us staff are on top of each other with no separation whatsoever and when busy there can be a huge amount of people congregating in the cafe waiting to order or collect their drinks.

    Takeaway only should be order online and collect at a hatch, not allowing people to be in the premises congregated together. And that’s not even getting started on how there is no separation between members of staff whatsoever.


    Or they could organise the shop you are working in properly and control access to customers and make appropriate working conditions for staff.


  • #7085
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,593 ✭✭✭tigger123


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.

    Or else what?


  • #7086
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    only 7 deaths. A positive in the huge cases announced today.

    Not to be negative but those deaths are mostly people who were infected over a month ago, when we had 200 cases a day.


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  • #7087
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.

    are you 54?


  • #7088
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,977 ✭✭✭Russman


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Numerous posters have said if everyone just follows restrictions we would be out of this. I agree with your post, we need more compliance.

    Ok, that’s fair. So, how do we get more compliance ?
    Is it communication ? Surely by now we’d want to be living under a rock not to know what works.
    Is it enforcement ? Personally I think it’s a massive part of it. Now, I know you can’t put a Garda on every street corner, but let’s say you had a few roving patrols/checkpoints. What if a random person couldn’t prove they were on an essential journey and they were hit with a €500 fine ? Would ten or fifteen cases of this daily make people think twice about breaching restrictions ?
    What if a few businesses were given one week closure notices for not obeying the rules ? Let’s say a supermarket allowing too many people in ? Would that work ?

    I know they’re very draconian but needs must.


  • #7089
    SimonTemplar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    This is such an incredibly odd suggestion. Use the names and faces of dead people to scare / guilt people into compliance?

    If we're going to go down that road should we do the same for tobacco and alcohol related deaths?

    We already do use the names / faces of traffic victims to scare / guilt people into compliance of speeding / phone usage laws.


  • #7090
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.

    And what exactly are the EU commission supposed to do ?


  • #7091
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The people need to start a movement.

    Tell the EU they have till the 1st June to get everybody outside of the healthy 18-54 age group vaccinated. No excuses.

    You realise that EU don’t make the vaccines right


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  • #7092
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Flyer1 wrote: »
    Laughable to read people talking about army enforcement.

    Keep your distance, wash the hands, stick on your mask, keep it sensible. It's personal responsibility.

    For now we can hope that this virus is kept away from our vulnerable people, keep the head down, focus on getting the vaccine rolled out as quickly as possible.

    Only problem is, don't know about you, but many of us have been doing that all along .
    You state that as if it's something new :)


  • #7093
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Sleety_Rain wrote: »
    are you 54?

    55 in May.


  • #7094
    SuperRabbit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 698 ✭✭✭SuperRabbit


    I don't understand how anyone could read this story and then continue not to comply with restrictions:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0101/1187231-healthcare-worker-death/

    So I couldn't begin to think about how to increase compliance because I clearly don't understand the minds of the non-compilers


  • #7095
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Warbeastrior wrote: »
    My friend wants to go for a walk tomorrow.
    Would I be ok to do so?
    We wud be taking separate cars and in the open for the entire time.

    I'm taking this new strain very seriously.

    Personally I wouldn't take a chance tbh. Odds are slim you'd catch it in an outdoor environment but who knows. I'm doing my weekly shop at 7am tomorrow morning as I'm not taking any chances and keeping away from as many people as possible


  • #7096
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,093 ✭✭✭prunudo


    A lot of heightened emotions on here tonight, i think its time for cool heads and no rash decisions. Yes numbers are bad but given the swabs the last few days not surprising. If swabs haven't deteriorated much since Friday I think we should hold firm on current restrictions.
    Pulling the plug to March style lockdown is not a decision the government will take lightly, an awful lot to weigh up.


  • #7097
    WoollyRedHat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


    BobbyMalone wrote: »
    Can I go out for food or will the army deliver?

    Government are drawing up plans with local chippers to deliver to people's homes, with one delivery per day to each household, Monday-Friday. First ten orders will be free of charge, and each order comes with an uncooked potato. All supermarkets to close following this, as local chipper is deemed as essential for sustenance. Other takeaway businesses allowed open weekends to help out.


  • #7098
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    prunudo wrote: »
    A lot of heightened emotions on here tonight, i think its time for cool heads and no rash decisions. Yes numbers are bad but given the swabs the last few days not surprising. If swabs haven't deteriorated much since Friday I think we should hold firm on current restrictions.
    Pulling the plug to March style lockdown is not a decision the government will take lightly, an awful lot to weigh up.

    This has happened quite a lot in the last 10 months. And the sun still comes up in the morning.

    Irish love the drama.


  • #7099
    The_Brood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 838 ✭✭✭The_Brood


    Daphne Mushy Searcher wrote: »
    Unfortunately, the government will be slaughtered by a certain cohort of people if they start enforcing it severely. There will a group that will accuse them of denying civil liberties. The government is in the difficult position of trying to appease society at large. For every sensible poster on Boards, there is an idiot out there who thinks that it is their right to do as they please

    Of course they will. But how in God's blue earth is appeasing those people more important than doing the right thing and properly actively and firmly enforcing the strictest measures to fight this virus?

    So the virus is dangerous enough to force a complete and total economic shutdown and collapse of many sectors - but not dangerous enough to ignore special interest groups.

    People need to be very, very angry at this.


  • #7100
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    I don't understand how anyone could read this story and then continue not to comply with restrictions:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/dublin/2021/0101/1187231-healthcare-worker-death/

    So I couldn't begin to think about how to increase compliance because I clearly don't understand the minds of the non-compilers

    But how do you know they were non-complyers, I would say most cases were from Christmas drinks and dinner and so forth which were all within restrictions at the time.


  • #7101
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Personally I wouldn't take a chance tbh. Odds are slim you'd catch it in an outdoor environment but who knows. I'm doing my weekly shop at 7am tomorrow morning as I'm not taking any chances and keeping away from as many people as possible

    I sleep in PPE. I break into the supermarket at 3am, disable the alarm and do my weekly shop. I haven't looked at another human being since March 10th.


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  • #7102
    Tpcl20
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭Tpcl20


    https://www.independent.ie/news/under-pressure-hse-may-have-to-stop-offering-covid-19-testing-to-people-who-have-symptoms-39927133.html

    Cases set to go down as HSE stops testing symptomatic cases in the future.


  • #7103
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    growleaves wrote: »
    I sleep in PPE. I break into the supermarket at 3am, disable the alarm and do my weekly shop. I haven't looked at another human being since March 10th.

    In that case, immediately seek for help..


  • #7104
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Just got a text message to let me know my Covid swab from yesterday came back as not detected which is great news except I didn’t have a Covid swab done.....


  • #7105
    Goldengirl
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,854 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    I think you'll find most people here did not even notice your coffee talk.

    You don't notice posts when you have the poster on ignore! ;)


  • #7106
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    The_Brood wrote: »
    Of course they will. But how in God's blue earth is appeasing those people more important than doing the right thing and properly actively and firmly enforcing the strictest measures to fight this virus?

    So the virus is dangerous enough to force a complete and total economic shutdown and collapse of many sectors - but not dangerous enough to ignore special interest groups.

    People need to be very, very angry at this.

    Who are these special interest groups.


  • #7107
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    I think schools and construction should remain closed for 3 weeks so we really get a handle on this, then we will be around 200-400 cases daily by end of Jan and can begin to allow some movement


  • #7108
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Taoiseach and the Health Minister need to get more visible. Be honest about the schools. The incidence rates are close to the worst in the world.

    Our neigbours up North hold the mantle for THE worst in the world


  • #7109
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    Optimistic, and completely ignorant of how covid works

    Not at all. I like anyone have read and observed how it works. Read reports, watched what happened here after previous lockdowns. My partner is a nurse on the front line dealing with Covid patients. All im saying is that there will be a lot of pressure on the health service for 2-3 weeks.

    The effects of the lockdown will take hold as they have done the previous times and things will get better. Maybe some elective surgeries etc will be cancelled for a few weeks. Some people love the drama. Some people honestly convince themselves that we are going to see 100s of people dying each day but we are not. We have already seen the worst of Covid deaths in the first wave when we seen 50+. That mainly came from nursing homes I would like to think lessons will be learned from the first wave.


  • #7110
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,156 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Finally an optimistic post.

    It is an optimistic post and one that I really hope is right. I sincerely do.

    But I don't think it is Niallo, unfortunately.

    We aren't at the peak of this yet and hospital admissions are continuing to rise at a staggering rate and because of the lag effect they will continue to rise AFTER the peak has passed. We're in a grave situation.

    And if numbers stabilise or peak very soon they'll still be topping out at an enormous figure. Even if those case numbers descend it will be weeks and weeks before they truly come down a level where hospitals can cope.

    This is a brutal reality we're facing now, there's no two ways about it.

    I don't know what to say really at this point, I feel very empty at the moment. I think the only thing I'll do tonight is drink a whiskey and then another after that.

    There's no satisfaction in your worst fears being realised.


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  • #7111
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,393 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Tpcl20 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/news/under-pressure-hse-may-have-to-stop-offering-covid-19-testing-to-people-who-have-symptoms-39927133.html

    Cases set to go down as HSE stops testing symptomatic cases in the future.

    That's not what it says at all. It says they may have to do that in a few weeks.


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